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Earthquake Destroyed China's Largest Military Armory, Says Source
The Epoch Times ^ | Jul 09, 2008 | Zhang Haishan

Posted on 07/10/2008 11:28:20 AM PDT by edpc

A high-level Chinese military source secretly disclosed last week that the recent earthquake in Sichuan Province caused a chain-reaction of explosions in the Sichuan mountain areas. The explosions destroyed Chinese army's largest armory, new weapon test bases and part of nuclear facilities including several nuclear warheads. This information is considered China's top military secret.

After the earthquake, Chinese authorities had ignored the disaster victim's initial calls for help. Only after the first critical 72 hours had passed did the authorities allow international aid to be delivered to the disaster region. Military analysts believe that this delay occurred because Mianyang City of Sichuan Province is one of important areas for the Chinese military nuclear industries and also its largest armory. The Chinese regime did not want potential spies from the outside world in this very sensitive military area during a time when there may have been a nuclear accident.

"I went to see the site of the explosion again. Villagers on the road told me, 'These concrete blocks and soil were from the explosion,'" said a medical team member. (Photo provided by mainland Chinese Internet Users) According to sources, a nuclear accident did happen. On June 27, the Chinese military disclosed that 2,700 chemical cleanup workers had been sent to earthquake disaster areas for nuclear chemical emergency rescue.

(Excerpt) Read more at en.epochtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chicoms; china; earthquake; proliferation
I can't say I really buy what the site and its sources are saying; but nothing the Chinese government does (or is accused of doing) suprises me.
1 posted on 07/10/2008 11:28:21 AM PDT by edpc
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To: edpc

Despite the horrible and tragic loss of innocent life, I hope that the earthquake did damage the Chinese military capabilities. The Chicom Military deserves every harm.


2 posted on 07/10/2008 11:31:21 AM PDT by SolidWood (Stop the Muslimarxist Obama.)
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To: edpc

yeah right


3 posted on 07/10/2008 11:33:13 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: edpc

“Epoch Times’ is a publication of the Falun Gong. So read with a grain of salt.


4 posted on 07/10/2008 11:34:32 AM PDT by keithtoo (Why aren't the Republicans running a presidential candidate this year?)
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To: edpc

I wonder about this. I don’t see how any massive underground military facility can be kept hidden. There have to be entrances and exits to handle busy traffic going in and out, even exclusively at night that has to be visible. Huge ventilation shafts have to make a thermal signature.

And besides, the massive construction efforts cannot be hidden (outside of the James Bond movies, of course).


5 posted on 07/10/2008 11:34:35 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: edpc

This is of the nature of Trufer territory but somewhat weak.


6 posted on 07/10/2008 11:37:13 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: edpc

Hmmm... Should be interesting to see what more time reveals...


7 posted on 07/10/2008 11:42:38 AM PDT by El Sordo
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To: edpc
The only earthquake in the area: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2008ufa5.php
8 posted on 07/10/2008 11:42:55 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: yldstrk

“yeah right”

My thoughts exactly.


9 posted on 07/10/2008 11:43:20 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: edpc

Reminds me of the ‘prophet’ earthquake attack in that game ‘age of empires’, lol (not to make fun, but...)


10 posted on 07/10/2008 11:44:45 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: edpc

Falun Gong is not a reliable source. I think there were some fishy things that happened, but who knows?


11 posted on 07/10/2008 11:45:08 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: sinanju
That is what really bothered me about Goldeneye. Other than that, I liked the movie.
12 posted on 07/10/2008 11:47:00 AM PDT by wally_bert (Tactical Is Still Missing A Chair!)
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To: edpc
They may have had damage to a nuclear facility, but if they'd had some kind of incident where there was a release, we'd have heard about it from the Japanese or the South Koreans. Guaranteed. You know they are monitoring.
13 posted on 07/10/2008 11:51:19 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (0bambi: the audacity of hype)
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To: wally_bert

You should see every other James Bond movie ever made. The villain’s secret headquarters is such a goofball cliche even SNL spoofed it in the late eighties.

The villain always builds his secret base in some inaccessible place in the middle of nowhere and somehow no-one sees it being built or resupplied and none of the thousands of colorfully coveralled personnel ever tips off the media.

In reality, even the top-secret 1970’s Glomar Explorer sunken soviet sub salvage operation could not be kept quiet.


14 posted on 07/10/2008 11:51:43 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: edpc

Nuclear accident in China: The America Syndrome?


15 posted on 07/10/2008 11:58:14 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (ANWR would look great in pumps.)
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To: edpc

There was an article with similar information about a nuclear action during the Earthquake within a number of days after that was posted here at FR. This article reports eyewitness discussions I don’t recall in the earlier one, but the earlier article stated the “toothpaste” analogy with regards to I believe molten concrete, or at least I was left with such impression by the author. Difficult to believe concrete would become like “toothpaste”, but then China sends us the damndest things in the form of “toothpaste”.

The first article prompted me to think we would hear/read something in the near future regarding radiation readings detected, but...crickets.


16 posted on 07/10/2008 11:59:22 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: edpc
In an earlier, but related story in the Epoch Times, the source of these nuclear explosion rumors is the Boxun News Network, a news service run by Chinese dissidents that has a respectable record for accuracy:

Nuclear device exploded in Sichuan
By Boxun
Jun 1, 2008 - 6:46:34 PM

Lu Shishen, who reported the cover up of the earthquake forecast, said that there was a strong nuclear explosion in Sichuan during the earthquake.

Xinhua reported yesterday that an explosion of ¡°volcano was observed in the earthquake¡±, people said that concrete debris was burst out of the crack during the quake.

Experts tested the debris and found it is radioactive, according to Lu Shishen¡¯s report.

Full report in Chinese:
http://news.boxun.com/news/gb/china/2008/06/200806020720.shtml

http://www.boxun.us/news/publish/chinanews/Nuclear.shtml

It would be interesting to track down the Xinhua story of an volcanic eruption during the quake.

17 posted on 07/10/2008 11:59:45 AM PDT by mojito
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To: wally_bert

“That is what really bothered me about Goldeneye. Other than that, I liked the movie.”

Famke Jansen was the best looking of all the James Bond Villans without a doubt, making Goldeneye one of my favorite Bond movies.


18 posted on 07/10/2008 12:03:53 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: TigersEye

Read this yet?


20 posted on 07/10/2008 12:16:00 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (Don't play leapfrog with a unicorn! ...........^............)
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Actually, I’ll take back the comparison between Epoch times and Newsmax/WND. That comparison is unfair, in hindsight, and elevates rags like Newsmax to a higher level of credibility and responsibility.


21 posted on 07/10/2008 12:30:05 PM PDT by indcons
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To: indcons

Maybe Truemors


22 posted on 07/10/2008 12:31:33 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: RightWhale

“Fake but Accurate”


23 posted on 07/10/2008 12:36:54 PM PDT by indcons
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To: mojito

If there was an explosion — and especially one of the nuclear variety — our intel folks almost certainly know about it.


24 posted on 07/10/2008 12:37:00 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: keithtoo

I’m sure the PRC has more credibility. /s


25 posted on 07/10/2008 12:38:13 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36 Olympics for murdering regimes Beijing '08)
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To: edpc

Okay, now is the time to attack!


26 posted on 07/10/2008 12:40:15 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: indcons
BTW, Epoch times has little or no credibility. It’s like the World Net Daily or Newsmax of China.

OK, YOU have credibility with me, indcons. But, really, how does Epoch Times compare to PRC "news" releases?

27 posted on 07/10/2008 12:41:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36 Olympics for murdering regimes Beijing '08)
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To: TigersEye

I was harsh in that post considering that this story just sounded so fantastic and had little to back it up. I’ll take that comparison back willingly - it was unfair to Epoch Times though this story might be suspect.

How does it compare to PRC news releases or to Xinhua News? I think we both know that answer - like chalk and cheese. ALL ChiCom media agencies/sources are the 21st century equivalent of Goebbels and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.


28 posted on 07/10/2008 12:57:03 PM PDT by indcons
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To: sinanju
I have just about all of them on DVD. The 60's ones I have always just accepted as a given. My favorite one is the extinct volcano in YOLT and that is also one of my favorite movies of any type.
29 posted on 07/10/2008 1:05:05 PM PDT by wally_bert (Tactical Is Still Missing A Chair!)
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To: SlowBoat407

LOL!


30 posted on 07/10/2008 1:07:18 PM PDT by null and void (With Nobama it will be 9/10 through 9/17 every week. - Coffee200AM)
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To: keithtoo

The Epoch Times is not perfect but I trust it a lot more than ANY ChiCom government publication.


31 posted on 07/10/2008 1:24:55 PM PDT by WellyP (How much does Huma know?)
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To: indcons
Understood. When you come down to it there just aren't any news agencies that can be trusted very far. Every story has to be held up by the ankles and shaken to see if anything of substance falls out of its pockets.

I'm pretty sure a nuclear warhead couldn't be detonated even by a mountain falling on it though. They are pretty much precision instruments that only work if everything works perfectly AFAIK.

32 posted on 07/10/2008 1:34:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36 Olympics for murdering regimes Beijing '08)
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To: NavyCanDo

I second your opinion on Famke!


33 posted on 07/10/2008 2:14:20 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: wally_bert
That is what really bothered me about Goldeneye. Other than that, I liked the movie.

One of my top three Bond films right up until the stupid ending - a ridiculous bit of leaden Bond formula not worthy of the rest of the otherwise outstanding film.

The action before then was gloriously, gleefully, wink at the audience, over the top fun. A wonderfully enjoyable ride with a then fresh Brosnan, the gonzo Joe Done Baker always calling Bond Jimbo and such, and the very enticing and exotic Izabella Scorupco as the Natalya Fyodorovna Simonova purring on about boys with toys... Sigh.

34 posted on 07/10/2008 2:35:58 PM PDT by Jeff F
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To: Jeff F
I sort of liked the ending but hardly one of the best.
35 posted on 07/10/2008 5:09:39 PM PDT by wally_bert (Tactical Is Still Missing A Chair!)
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To: Jeff F
Tiger Tanaka was one of the better allies to me.


Too bad Aki didn't make it until the end of YOLT.


36 posted on 07/10/2008 5:18:35 PM PDT by wally_bert (Tactical Is Still Missing A Chair!)
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To: edpc

Wonder if they got the event order backwards? Could the ChiComms have purposefully detonated a large nuclear device underground and not have realized how close to a stressed fault they had placed it.


37 posted on 07/10/2008 7:49:38 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: anymouse

That’s a depressing scenario.


38 posted on 07/10/2008 7:57:02 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: SlowBoat407
Nuclear accident in China: The America Syndrome?

Good one!! I'm kind of fonda your post, even though some might think it was a lemmon.

39 posted on 07/10/2008 8:15:29 PM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve--and they are about to get it --in spades.)
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To: eyedigress

Maybe so, but using Ocam’s Razor theory that the simplest, most logical answer is correct, it makes sense as the ChiComs are both arrogant and incompetent enough to do that. Little boys playing with dangerous toys. Good luck on getting them to fess up to it though.

Although some have disparaged the Fulon Gong folks for spreading propaganda, you have to admit that those Tai Chi practicing grannies have no fear when confronting the Red Army with peaceful resistance. The Shaolin monks would be proud of them.


40 posted on 07/13/2008 2:27:38 PM PDT by anymouse
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