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Americans use less gas, hurt highway trust fund: CBO
Reuters ^ | Jul 10, 2008 | Reporting by Lisa Lambert and Georgina Coolidge; Editing by Dan Grebler

Posted on 07/10/2008 5:22:03 PM PDT by decimon

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Declining gasoline purchases, due to higher prices, are hurting the federal fund that pays to maintain the nation's highways, the director of the Congressional Budget Office said on Thursday.

The fund is built on an 18.4 cent tax levied on each gallon of gas. It had been forecast to run out by 2009, but the fund is now shrinking more quickly, Peter Orszag testified to a Senate panel.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: congress; energy; gasprices; summer; taxes; transportation
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1 posted on 07/10/2008 5:22:03 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Increase price = Reduced demand, who would have thought?


2 posted on 07/10/2008 5:23:53 PM PDT by monkeycard (There's no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: monkeycard
The fund is built on an 18.4 cent tax levied on each gallon of gas

boohoo! How much does Big Oil gouge from us on a gallon gas? /s

3 posted on 07/10/2008 5:28:58 PM PDT by chaos_5
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To: monkeycard
Increase price = Reduced demand

But not for taxes. The demand curve for taxes is off the chart.

4 posted on 07/10/2008 5:30:19 PM PDT by decimon
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To: chaos_5
boohoo! How much does Big Oil gouge from us on a gallon gas? /s

Come to think of it, the extra tax monies being collected from Big Oil should more than make up for any shortfall in retail gas taxes.

5 posted on 07/10/2008 5:33:30 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

I see lots of toll booths...


6 posted on 07/10/2008 5:35:09 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: chaos_5

There are far more taxes paid on a gallon of gas than oil company profit.


7 posted on 07/10/2008 5:38:14 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: decimon

Time to punish people for reducing demand.


8 posted on 07/10/2008 5:38:40 PM PDT by indylindy (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: decimon

http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/23178.html


9 posted on 07/10/2008 5:44:08 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: chaos_5

The govt “gouges” you more on a gallon of gas than big oil and then stands up in front of a camera and blames it on; you guessed it; big oil. Moron.


10 posted on 07/10/2008 5:46:53 PM PDT by saganite
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To: decimon

Am I missing something here?

So how are the dimwits losing out?

Couldn't be a case of a bureaucrat trying to shake more money out
of taxpayers in order to pad his empire, could it?

11 posted on 07/10/2008 5:47:13 PM PDT by Zakeet (Be thankful we don't get all the government we pay for)
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To: indylindy
Time to punish people for reducing demand.

When not punishing us for increasing demand.

12 posted on 07/10/2008 5:47:26 PM PDT by decimon
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To: saganite

There was a sarcasm tag in chaos_5’s post.


13 posted on 07/10/2008 5:48:48 PM PDT by decimon
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To: BurbankKarl

Thanks. Seems like there’s more than enough in the increased taxes collected from the oil companies.


14 posted on 07/10/2008 5:49:56 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon
It had been forecast to run out by 2009...

ummm excuse me, BUT... how does something RUN OUT that COMES IN EVERY DAY???

15 posted on 07/10/2008 5:51:11 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/SHOGGOTH '08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: Zakeet

Don’t think you’ve missed anything.


16 posted on 07/10/2008 5:51:40 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Chode
ummm excuse me, BUT... how does something RUN OUT that COMES IN EVERY DAY???

Well, I've worked with such people. ;-)

17 posted on 07/10/2008 5:53:26 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon
Scumbags. During the drought they asked us to water less. We did and it hurt their bottom line. So they raised the rates.

They taxed smokers more and allocated it to “health care”. Smoking declined and it hurt their bottom line, so they raised the tax again

Screw these people...

18 posted on 07/10/2008 5:53:49 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: chaos_5; decimon

My apologies. Didn’t see your sarcasm tag!


19 posted on 07/10/2008 5:54:30 PM PDT by saganite
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To: decimon
my condolences...
20 posted on 07/10/2008 5:54:58 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/SHOGGOTH '08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: decimon

Translation-”we need to raise the gas tax in order to make up for the tax shortfall”


21 posted on 07/10/2008 5:55:11 PM PDT by mrmargaritaville
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To: MileHi
Screw these people...

Good thought but the screw turns in but one direction.

22 posted on 07/10/2008 5:57:31 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

For now I guess...


23 posted on 07/10/2008 6:00:12 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: decimon

Supply and demand works the opposite way when it comes to government.


24 posted on 07/10/2008 6:02:18 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: saganite

LOL, it’s ok. =o)


25 posted on 07/10/2008 6:03:09 PM PDT by chaos_5
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To: ltc8k6
I see lots of toll booths...

Then I would expect lots more traffic on side streets to follow.

26 posted on 07/10/2008 6:03:28 PM PDT by uptoolate
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To: Zakeet
Am I missing something here?

Yep!

Just because there is less work to do doesn't mean that we will see a smaller bureaucracy, fewer bureaucrats and fewer people surfing the net on their office computers.

Bureaucracies never willingly downsize or curb growth.

Don't be surprised to hear a claim that they need a bigger budget and more headcount because the reduced travel has thrown off all of their calculations, formulas and standards, and they need extra people to adjust to the new paradigm.

27 posted on 07/10/2008 6:06:08 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: decimon

They’ll take my Hybrid away, when they pry the steering wheel from my cold, dead driving gloves.


28 posted on 07/10/2008 6:09:38 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: decimon

Are you telling me that there is no way we can win?;(


29 posted on 07/10/2008 6:10:24 PM PDT by indylindy (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: indylindy
Are you telling me that there is no way we can win?;(

Cheer up. All we need do is vote the right people into office. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

30 posted on 07/10/2008 6:15:22 PM PDT by decimon
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To: wolfcreek
look at reply #6

You know the drill

As drivers drive less and switch to more fuel efficient vehicles, the feds and the states collect less gas tax. Then they have to raise the tax just to stay even. Then they have to charge tolls to build new roads.

31 posted on 07/10/2008 6:29:20 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: decimon

Reduced revenue doesn’t hurt the trust fund near as much as Congress robing it for their illegal social programs and public transportation.


32 posted on 07/10/2008 6:33:36 PM PDT by dalereed (both)
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To: decimon
Good thought but the screw turns in but one direction.

Wrong, there are screws/bolts left turning-therefore if you turn clockwise the screw/bolt gets loose! ;)

33 posted on 07/10/2008 6:41:46 PM PDT by danmar (Tomorrow's life is too late. Live today!)
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To: decimon

“Declining gasoline purchases, due to higher prices, are hurting the federal fund that pays to maintain the nation’s highways”

So you’ll excuse me if I don’t understand the problem.......But if lower consumption rates are taxing the tax fund, then for crying out loud !. TRIPLE up on the gas taxes !. I mean, DUH.. it doesn’t take a scientist to figure it out. TRIPLE up on liscense plate renewals, TRIPLE up on New car purchase taxes, TRIPLE up on replacement tire taxes. TAX TAX TAX !


34 posted on 07/10/2008 6:44:33 PM PDT by CheezyChesster (A Tax is a Fine for doing good A Fine a Tax for doing Bad Tax/ Fine Free is Reward for doing Nothing)
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To: CheezyChesster
Oop's..........almost forgot "/"
35 posted on 07/10/2008 6:57:26 PM PDT by CheezyChesster
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To: Chode

ummm excuse me, BUT... how does something RUN OUT that COMES IN EVERY DAY???
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Highway projects were “accelerated” to stimulate the economy ,, burning the accumulated surplus ,, now it seems they didn’t forsee a drop in demand for gas and miscalculated their receivables.


36 posted on 07/10/2008 6:58:25 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: mrmargaritaville

No, it’s worse than that. Your elected representatives will sell the Interstate Highways running through your state to a toll-road agency, probably some other country or “sovereign wealth” fund. Then, you can pay a toll to drive on the freeway, that you already paid for with your taxed dollars.


37 posted on 07/10/2008 6:58:44 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: decimon

Like in NJ, one of the highest taxes on cigarettes has caused many smokers to quit, drastically reducing the revenue?


38 posted on 07/10/2008 7:03:00 PM PDT by ropin71 (God Bless our Troops!)
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To: Neidermeyer
so then only the surplus is running out not the fund itself.
39 posted on 07/10/2008 7:04:19 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/SHOGGOTH '08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: decimon; All
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Declining gasoline purchases, due to higher prices, are hurting the federal fund that pays to maintain the nation's highways, the director of the Congressional Budget Office said on Thursday.

The fund is built on an 18.4 cent tax levied on each gallon of gas. It had been forecast to run out by 2009, but the fund is now shrinking more quickly, Peter Orszag testified to a Senate panel.
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Well DUH!,,,People that can't afford high gas prices don't

need no Steeekin’ Roads,,,

Go whine to Nancey PigLoosy and the Rats-n-Rinos!!!

IIRC gas usage/miles driven has been droppin’ 1% per month

for the last 3-4 months,,,

Wait till the folks in the north see what they'll have to

pay for Home Heating Oil!!!

40 posted on 07/10/2008 7:13:52 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: ropin71
Like in NJ, one of the highest taxes on cigarettes has caused many smokers to quit, drastically reducing the revenue?

Surely the reduced health care costs will more than make up for the reduced cigarette tax revenue. Uh-huh, uh-huh.

41 posted on 07/10/2008 7:15:47 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon
What difference does it make the Dems want to steal the money from highways to build their orgasmic dream:

Rapid Transit!

Only then when we have:
light rail
high speed rail
levitating trains
all kinds of rail

only then will America be able to hold their head high in the world and get the respect of other countries.

the Amish party strikes again. I can't wait until we go back to horses and outhouses!

42 posted on 07/10/2008 7:20:48 PM PDT by stig
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To: BurbankKarl

McDonalds among others has a higher profit margin than ExxonMobil. Saw that here on FR with figures.


43 posted on 07/10/2008 7:23:13 PM PDT by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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To: decimon

That’s right folks, conserve on gas and we will tax your ass.


44 posted on 07/10/2008 8:49:52 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: decimon
Declining gasoline purchases, due to higher prices, are hurting the federal fund that pays to maintain the nation's highways, the director of the Congressional Budget Office said on Thursday...on the other hand, I heard somewhere awhile back that only about sixty percent of the gas tax actually goes "to maintain the nation's highways" - reportedly about twenty-five percent is bled off to fund mass transit projects, and another fifteen percent goes to satisfy the Greenie Wienies in such projects as environmental studies of proposed construction and archeological digs to protect artifacts disturbed by construction - if declining tax revenues from less driving helps hurt these leftwing boondoggles, things aren't all bad..........
45 posted on 07/10/2008 9:14:25 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Neidermeyer
Highway projects were “accelerated” to stimulate the economy ,, burning the accumulated surplus ,, now it seems they didn’t forsee a drop in demand for gas and miscalculated their receivables.

You mean, they spent it already, before they collected it? Who woulda thought?

46 posted on 07/11/2008 5:40:38 AM PDT by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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To: stig
light rail
high speed rail
levitating trains
all kinds of rail

What we need is a rail we can ride them out of town on.

47 posted on 07/11/2008 5:45:30 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: chaos_5

Every single time someone complains about the awful Oil Companies remind them that they make approx 9 cents for every gallon sold, while the Federal Government takes 18.4 cents! Add in you state and local taxes to that amount and question the reality of who is really gouging Americans!!


48 posted on 07/11/2008 5:49:33 AM PDT by codercpc
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To: codercpc
complains about the awful Oil Companies remind them that they make approx 9 cents for every gallon sold, while the Federal Government takes 18.4 cents!

Both numbers are low. Profit and taxes at the final stage of petroleum operations (retail gasoline service station) are not the only source of taxes or profits. The petroleum went through several steps to get their with profit and taxes taken along the way.

Oil Companies make about 9% profit from oil well to gasoline pump, or 40¢ on $4 gasoline. Government usually make more than twice that.

examples:
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-bloggers/2001476/posts?page=11#11

49 posted on 07/11/2008 5:55:35 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: uptoolate

Ah, but you aren’t a member of that criminal class in DC...


50 posted on 07/11/2008 7:10:22 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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