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As Iran Tests Missile Fleet, Experts Map High-Tech Israeli Attack
Popular Mechanics ^ | July 09, 2008 | Joe Pappalardo

Posted on 07/10/2008 7:51:26 PM PDT by Uncle Ralph

War-game tests by Iran of long- and medium-range missiles sent shock waves across the globe today, with tensions centering on a potential attack on Israel and, ultimately, the country's nuclear ambitions. Among the nine ballistic missiles fired was an upgraded Shahab-3 with GPS guidance, 450 pounds of carrying capacity and an estimated 1250-mile range—already a potent threat to Israeli cities and bases, even before nuclear warheads enter the equation. What's more, Gen. Hossein Salami, the air force commander of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards, offered a blunt warning after the exercise, saying it demonstrated the country's "resolve and might against enemies who in recent weeks have threatened Iran with harsh language," according to various reports.

Israel, meanwhile, may be preparing to use more than just harsh language, as officials there publicly ponder launching an airstrike against Iranian facilities being used to enrich uranium and produce heavy-water plutonium. And Iran has been taking measures to protect these far-flung targets, having learned from Iraq's enrichment program at Osirak, which was obliterated by an Israeli airstrike in 1980, that concentrating facilities in one area is strategically unwise...

An attack on Iran's nuclear facilities would be far more extensive than the 1980 raid. Some of the would-be targets for the Israeli Air Force (IAF) are hardened with concrete coverings and underground rooms. Dozens of planes would have to dodge radar and antiaircraft missile batteries to deliver multiple payloads of penetrating warheads ... So what might such an airstrike actually look like?

(Excerpt) Read more at popularmechanics.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: geopolitics; iran; iranwar; israel; missiledefense; missiles; mohammedanism; nuclear; proliferation; war; warfare

1 posted on 07/10/2008 7:51:26 PM PDT by Uncle Ralph
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To: Uncle Ralph


2 posted on 07/10/2008 8:04:57 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/SHOGGOTH '08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: Uncle Ralph

Iran is doomed.


3 posted on 07/10/2008 8:06:30 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (please consider the environment when purchasing the New York Times)
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To: Uncle Ralph
Among the nine ballistic missiles fired was an upgraded Shahab-3 with GPS guidance, 450 pounds of carrying capacity and an estimated 1250-mile range

And we know this because they told so? I suppose the crudely photo-shopped pictures were sufficient proof.

I thought the Shahab-3 had a 1000# warhead, that 450# quoted is quite a downsizing. Would that be our GPS positioning data their guidance system uses? Maybe we could "re-calibrate" the targeting data after launch. That could lead to some interesting mischief!

Regards,
GtG

4 posted on 07/10/2008 8:27:48 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Uncle Ralph

Anyone know where these test shots are landing?


5 posted on 07/10/2008 8:40:34 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Barack Hussein Obama=Jimmy Carter Part Deux)
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To: Uncle Ralph

6 posted on 07/10/2008 8:42:11 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (The world WILL be cleaner, safer and more productive without Islam.)
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To: Uncle Ralph
Even though Russian antiaircraft weapons were made to thwart the current generation of Israeli airplanes, recent improvements to the Israeli aircraft have made them relatively more capable. “What really matters is the smarts—the command and control, the radar and the communication suites,” says Ben-Ari.

Having Hashem on your side don't hurt either.

7 posted on 07/10/2008 8:52:12 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
I thought the Shahab-3 had a 1000# warhead, that 450# quoted is quite a downsizing. Would that be our GPS positioning data their guidance system uses? Maybe we could "re-calibrate" the targeting data after launch. That could lead to some interesting mischief!

Downsizing the warhead increased the range, quite a bit. If you have an atomic or chemical warhead that weighs less then 450lb, then you can throw it farther. GPS means that accuracy doesn't suffer..much anyway.

GPS is not that easy to spoof or even jam, and you'd mess up your own systems too. They are probably using GLONASS, the Russian version of GPS, along with our GPS, and if you turned ours off entirely, they'd probably revert to GLONASS.

As to how we know they are using GPS.. well a little birdie probably told us. And I'm not speculating on which sort of birdie that might have been.

8 posted on 07/10/2008 9:13:47 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato; Brian S. Fitzgerald; Marine_Uncle; Colorado Doug; HardStarboard

Probably Russian supplied GPS units.,...or Chinese.,...


9 posted on 07/11/2008 12:06:38 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Flavius

fyi


10 posted on 07/11/2008 12:57:10 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Uncle Ralph

Gen. Hossein Salami

LOL! Iran photoshops a missile launch and the guy warning us not to "threaten Iran with harsh language" is named General Salami?! Kinda adds to the comical atmosphere here, doesn't it...
11 posted on 07/11/2008 8:18:34 AM PDT by G8 Diplomat
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
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12 posted on 07/11/2008 8:52:04 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Probably Russian supplied GPS units.,...or Chinese.,...

Chinese manufactured, Japanese designed, or even US designed. They are by now a commerical commodity, or near to it. The GPS set is just a specialized receiver and computer. It's the satellite constellation that is either US (GPS) or Russian (GLONASS). Small differences in the details of the signals from the satellites, but not so much that a single unit can't work with either. But the Satellites just broadcast, you don't anyone's permission or key to use them. One exception is the high accurracy mode, which may be encrypted, but AFAIK, neither is. Too many civilian services use it. It's not really regional, so that you could turn it off or on for just a certain region. AFAIK, the high accurracy mode was turned to "unencrpted" back in 2000 and has never gone back.

13 posted on 07/11/2008 10:15:45 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for the explanation on the two world GPS systems. I have confidence that the IAF could basically level much of the Iranian above ground critical targets. But I continue to wonder how they would take out deep buried bunkers that would require 150 foot plus penetration before exploding.
I am familiar with some of the recent blips on the new generation deep penetrators the Air Force has been working with. How would Israel be able to deliver such huge bombs over the distances required continues to make me wonder how effective they would be in taking out all the underground nuclear facilities in Iran. That assumes they have bought these new generation bombs from the USA. And most likely the explosive charges are nuclear.
I only bring this up because surely this does not fit into loose lips sink ships. All sides immediately involved and the rest of the world's militaries surely dwell on these questions.
14 posted on 07/11/2008 4:42:37 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...Now we are left with a bunch of idiots.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Yes, and it isn’t necessary. The mad leaders didn’t get the pun.


15 posted on 07/11/2008 4:46:14 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: Marine_Uncle

The US will help in a massive way. I won’t speculate further.


16 posted on 07/11/2008 10:53:44 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Uncle Ralph
Excellent work by HawaiianGecko

If they really had the firepower to take out Israel and our military bases in Iraq, they would have done it without talking about it.

17 posted on 07/12/2008 7:46:34 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (America's Mugabe, the Obamination.will bring Mugabe Change to America!)
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To: Thunder90

Understood.


18 posted on 07/12/2008 8:42:01 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...Now we are left with a bunch of idiots.)
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