Posted on 07/11/2008 7:22:48 AM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
ATLANTA — Atlanta police are looking for a woman who they say threw a gray kitten from a moving car.
A specialist at the Atlanta Humane Society — Elasha Germain — says a woman tried to leave three cats at the center June 21. She says the woman became violent toward the cats when Germain told her the center was full and couldn't take any more animals.
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Germain told police before the woman got far down the road, the woman threw one of the kittens out the window.
Center officials have not been able to find the kitten.
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Did the cat land on its feet?
When they find her, toss HER out the window of a moving car on a busy raod. Maybe then she’ll get the message.
OK, I don’t like animal abusers AT ALL, but I think the Atlanta PD probably has a lot more to do than hunt a woman who threw a kitten out of a car window. How about spending some time patrolling the ‘hood and keep your HUMAN inhabitants safe, eh?
2739 babies were aborted yesterday. There will be another 2739 today.
Why is this kitten story even in the news?
Almost all human abusers—talking sadistic rapists, child beaters, etc—start out as animal abusers before the “graduate”.
It's possible that she threw a sock out the window. Let's get all excited and jump up and down because we think that maybe something bad happened.
Why is this kitten story even in the news?
Why do you seem to assume that concern over cruelty to animals implies a lack of concern over aborted babies?
... because we like crazy news stories.
I bet they are big enough to do both jobs.
Or a large condom?
No kitten was found.
Sure something went out the window, but are we sure it was a cat? Not likely.
2739 babies were aborted yesterday. There will be another 2739 today.
Why is this kitten story even in the news?
We’re worrying about kittens when 3,300 human beings are being slaughter DAILY in abortuaries. Something’s wrong.
*Whoever threw the kitten out the window will get a fine and probably jail time.
*Whoever aborts a baby will earn at least $300.
Good Lord, someday we’re all going to pay for this.
This woman is definitely headed into the sadistic rapist category.
Because people are supposed to be humane towards animals as well as the unborn. We are big enough a society and forum to be able to be concerned about both the unborn and a kitten that is mistreated in that manner. Your post is a total waste of electrons.
They spent yesterday trying to find a murder suspect that the accidentally let slip out of their hands. I guess the kitten can wait a little longer.
I guess the Atlanta PD has to feel like they're ‘doing something’, besides no-knock raiding the wrong houses and killing 93 year old grandmothers.
I don’t think the people who kill babies and the people who abuse animals are necessarily two different groups of people. Anyone selfish and thoughtless enough to hurt kittens and puppies would surely abort a baby if they felt like it too.
It’s not normal for people to intentionally hurt animals unless they’re hunting or the animal is causing trouble. Anyone who does those things is someone to keep an eye on because they’re messed up in the head.
“Why do you seem to assume that concern over cruelty to animals implies a lack of concern over aborted babies?’
When is the last time you read a news story about a baby being aborted?
If the woman actually did this, she needs serious law enforcement attention. However, what doesn’t appear to be in dispute is what the staff at the Humane Society did. They need to take in ALL animals that are brought to them, and euthanize those they simply don’t have room for. If in some cases this means seeking an emergency court order to euthanize animals before the legal 3 day hold (or whatever the state’s minimum hold law is), or to turn them over to a state-funded shelter for the same (if the HS doesn’t receive state funding) then that’s what they have to do. When someone brings in an animal saying they can’t care for it, any shelter that’s licensed by the county or state to take in unwanted animals from the general public, needs to take a step that moves towards solving the problem, not throw the problem back at the person who brought the animal in.
I witnessed an incident like this at a shelter in my area (which has since had its board of directors entirely replaced after a formal complaint by the state). A man brought in a cat and said he needed to turn it in to have it euthanized because it was vicious and had attacked a young child. Idiot lady behind the counter said “We’re not allowed to take animals who’ve bitten somebody in the last 10 days because of rabies laws”. BULL! They’re not allowed to EUTHANIZE an animal that they know has bitten someone until a 10 day hold has passed, by which time symptoms would appear if the animal had been rabid at the time of the bite. No way in h*!! does any rabies law say the shelter is to turn away an animal that is reported to have bitten someone recently, much less without obtaining the information about who was bitten and where. But that’s just what happened. The man, who had been trying to do the right thing, siad “Look, if you don’t take him, I’ll just have to drown him.” Idiot lady said “Sorry, but we can’t take him”. So the guy left, presumably drowned the cat with more trauma to the cat than veterinary euthanasia would have caused, and if the cat HAD been rabid, the bite and the victim would have gone unreported until it was too late for the victim.
I'd like to think that if you are at least sorry for not committing felonies against abortionists and ruining your family's lives on this plane of existance, He will let you off the hook.
Looking at this from another angle, the woman was forced into a plan B situation.
What was she to do when a public agency tasked to “solve” such problems refused to do anything?
Think about it.
Has it occurred to you that information about specific abortions is subject to medical confidentiality laws? As for general stories about abortion, operational details at specific clinics, legal actions surrounding specific abortions, and women who’ve had abortions and chosen to speak publicly publicly about it, we see these virtually every day on FR, many of them from mainstream media sources.
This may not be a public agency. A lot of “SPCA” and Humane Society” entities receive no public funding, and others receive only a very small portion of their operating budget from public funds. However, in every state I know about, they are licensed by the state and required to abide by certain standards. Telling someone essentially to “Get lost, ‘cause we’re full” is not likely in compliance with state law.
It’s possible there’s more to the story though, and that what actually happened was that they directed her to another facility in the area that was better able to take in the cats, and then she did the window-toss because she didn’t want to be bothered going to the other place. Seems unlikely though. I’m questioning whether she even did toss a kitten out the window. If these were cats that had been born under her porch or dumped on her property, she may not have had carriers for them, and one may have gotten out of a makeshift container and climbed out the window. If she was really that intent on getting rid of them, why toss only one? Something’s not adding up.
“It’s not normal for people to intentionally hurt animals unless they’re hunting or the animal is causing trouble. Anyone who does those things is someone to keep an eye on because they’re messed up in the head.”
It seems to me that taking the kittens to the Atlanta Humane Society was a HUMANE action towards the animals. There’s nothing there...
The kittens probably didn’t even belong to her, she was probably just trying to help some strays. If she owned a cat she would have KNOWN you couldn’t transport a cat in a car without it being in a container. the Humane Society should have never let her leave with unsecured kittens in her vehicle.
Yes, but do all animal abusers become human abusers?
The obvious answer is no.
Each day 10,000 humans are born in the U.S. - and each day 70,000 puppies and kittens are born. Put another way, for every person that is born, 15 dogs and 45 cats are also born. You do the math, there is no way we can find homes for them all. As long as these birth rates exist, there will never be enough homes for all the animals from here to eternity. As a result, every year 4 to 6 million animals are euthanized because there are no homes for them
I ask because the animal abuse is predictive of serial murder, ad nauseam is really a correlation argument. Those are, at best, tenuous.
Fir example, as the soft sciences would put it, Marijuana is a “gateway drug”to heroin addiction. Their faulty argument is as follows:
1. 70% of all heroin addicts have a history of marijuana usage.
2. Therefore, marijuana usage leads to heroin usage.
The problem is that virtually all heroin addicts have a history of milk usage.
Therefore, milk could be said to lead to heroin use.
The obvious factor, ignored by your argument, is the core issue of causality. Correlation is not causation.
Did you happen to get that argument from either PETA or the Humane Society?
“I’m questioning whether she even did toss a kitten out the window.”
If you haver picked a up a kitten in your hand, the little buggers grab your hand with their razor sharp claws to hang on. You can’t “throw” a kitten without getting hurt...
“*Whoever threw the kitten out the window will get a fine and probably jail time.
*Whoever aborts a baby will earn at least $300.
Good Lord, someday we’re all going to pay for this.”
We are paying for it, and we are paying in the here and now AND our descendants will be paying for generations.
I refer to the fact that IF we had not aborted so many Americans, there would not be a shortage of people of working age.
That shortage is why we are inundated with a flood of Mexico’s criminal classes, all uneducated, low grade laborers, and all the assorted undesirables from Latin America.
I hope the Republic will survive.
Does throwing a kitten from a moving car surprise anyone? Women toss their own flesh and blood into garbage bins and leave them in toilets. Disgusting isn’t it?
Carolyn
Was her name Lorena Bobbitt?
I once was a prosecuting attorney in a central US State. I tried all kinds of assault cases, sexual and otherwise. The only case I ever tried which had television coverage was an animal abuse case.
Go figure.
How many 'found' pets are actually, "I bought this and am now bored with it."
Good point. But still, I think the shelter should take it as opposed to someone dumping it out in the country.
Carolyn
That depends on state/county law, and on whether the shelter is registered/licensed in a way that subjects it to certain state/county laws that don’t apply to all shelters. Usually there is a category of shelter registration/licensing that makes a shelter eligible to receive some public funds, and authorized to hold animals on behalf of the police and courts (for which the shelter is paid out of public funds). But in many areas, there are also completely private shelters, and they are not required to take any animal they don’t want to take. And some states/counties may have laws that allow any shelter to impose the restriction you describe, but my guess would be that there is some other shelter or way to turn in an animal in this jurisdiction, that would not be subject to this requirement.
You could inquire at your local police station. What would happen, for example, if a large aggressive stray dog shows up on your property, where you live in a single-wide trailer with two young children, and are barely surviving on disability checks and food stamps, and you call the police after the shelter tells you you’ll have to advertise for a week, and keep and feed the dog in the meantime, before they’ll take it? I have a feeling the police can tell you an alternate route that’s available to someone who’s ended up with a stray they can’t handle.
Carolyn
I wasn’t suggesting that you’re in that bad a situation! Just pointing out that since there are plenty of people who are, there simply has to be some other route for turning in a stray besides the shelter you mentioned. For some people it may be a matter of allergies — some people are allergic to cats to a degree that can be fatal. Other people may be leaving town for a business trip or family emergency.
You might also check with the newspaper. It’s possible that they have a policy of running lost pet ads without charge. That would help with the expense issue, though the animal would still need to be fed and sheltered.
Carolyn
Harry J. O'Reilly, retired NYCPD sex crimes investigator. Presented many seminars to LEO's in the 1980's. Similar information in the book "Men Who Rape".
A look at the logic and statistical fallacies might also be of interest to you.
Just a suggestion, of course.
We can worry about human babies and animals alike. Compassion is not limited.
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