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Man claims to know source of "Phoenix Lights" UFO sighting (Video)
KNXV-TV ^ | July 10, 2008 | Chris Kline

Posted on 07/11/2008 2:23:08 PM PDT by wallace144

An astrophysicist claims to know the true source of a strange grouping of lights that appeared in the Arizona night sky 11 years ago.

Dr. James R. Bartzen said he has indisputable proof that the so-called "Phoenix Lights" were a product of secret man-made technology being shielded from the public.

He works at the Russian-American Institute of Space Science.

"There are no theories, there is only evidence," Bartzen told ABC15. "The government desires people to believe in space aliens so they don't have to reveal the technologies that both we and the Russians have."

(Excerpt) Read more at abc15.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: callingartbell; energy; followthemoney; ufo

1 posted on 07/11/2008 2:23:08 PM PDT by wallace144
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To: wallace144

Stands to reason.


2 posted on 07/11/2008 2:24:52 PM PDT by unkus
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To: wallace144
..and he'll reveal all in his book that will be released in two weeks on Amazon- only $24.99 with supersaver discount.
3 posted on 07/11/2008 2:25:51 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: wallace144

Nah, it’s got to be spacemen from beyond the moon.


4 posted on 07/11/2008 2:28:17 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: wallace144

P. O. E.


5 posted on 07/11/2008 2:31:54 PM PDT by 50sDad (OBAMA: In your heart you know he's Wright.)
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To: mnehrling

..hahaha, that’s about it


6 posted on 07/11/2008 2:32:34 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: americanophile

I said that as a joke before visiting his website and seeing he is going to reveal all at a $50/ticket seminar.


7 posted on 07/11/2008 2:34:09 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

Actually he’s selling tickets to a “film/lecture/music event” in Sedona for $30 a pop, $50 if you want to go to the after-party. Looks like both debunkers and believers are making money on UFOs now.


8 posted on 07/11/2008 2:35:31 PM PDT by wallace144
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To: mnehrling
Nah, it's $30.00 to go to the lecture next weekend, or $50.00 with reserved seating, a flutist and goat cheese afterward.

I'm not kidding. You can't make this stuff up!

9 posted on 07/11/2008 2:39:30 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: wallace144

Yeah,

Funny how money is always involved eh?

And the aliens never get a cut! ;)


10 posted on 07/11/2008 2:41:25 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: evets

E.T.I. (Extra Terrestrial Intelligence)


Psst…C’mere!

I hear the music daylight disc
Three men in black said, “Don’t report this…
Ascension,” and that’s all they said
Sickness now the hour of dread

All praise
He’s found the awful truth
Balthazar
He’s found the saucer news

Wait! there’s more…

I’m in fairy rings and tower beds
“Don’t report this” three men said
Books by blameless and by the dead
King in yellow, the Queen in red

All praise
He’s found the awful truth
Balthazar
He’s found the saucer news

Dead leaves always give up motion
I no longer feel emotion
When prophecy fails the falling notion
Don’t report this
Agents of Fortune

All praise
He’s found the awful truth
Balthazar
He’s found the saucer news


11 posted on 07/11/2008 2:44:29 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent......)
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To: wallace144
technologies that both we and the Russians have

All right! Who sold out the U.S. (again!)?

12 posted on 07/11/2008 2:47:37 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: wallace144

I don’t think there is any question that the ‘stationary’ lights were flares behind the mountain range. I’ve seen the mountains superimposed on the ‘lights’ video and they blink out one at a time exactly as they drop behind the peaks.
IMHO absolutely no question.

The triangles overflying the area, another matter. Haven’t seen any explanation for them.


13 posted on 07/11/2008 2:49:39 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: mnehrling

“..and he’ll reveal all in his book that will be released in two weeks on Amazon- only $24.99 with supersaver discount.”

Damn! It’s a penny short for the free shipping option.


14 posted on 07/11/2008 3:10:27 PM PDT by Clioman
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To: Vinnie

Yeah, I saw a special about the Phoenix lights on the travel channel that showed that same thing. But the problem was that some people were saying there were 2 sets of lights, one in the 8 o’clock hour and one in the 10 o’clock hour. On top of that, Governor Symington said what he saw was not of this world. But of course, I wasn’t there and didn’t see anything, so I don’t know what they were.


15 posted on 07/11/2008 3:11:33 PM PDT by wallace144
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To: Salamander

Buck!!!


16 posted on 07/11/2008 3:18:31 PM PDT by soupcon
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To: wallace144
I wish they could find the source of the Marfa lights, they are there almost every night. Weirdest lights I have ever seen.
17 posted on 07/11/2008 3:20:50 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Fireworks, electric lights, bonfires ~ yup, we got ‘em, the Brits got ‘em and so do the Russians.


18 posted on 07/11/2008 3:42:56 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: wallace144

coast to coast am time!


19 posted on 07/11/2008 3:51:46 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: wallace144

If you really want the truth, just ask Calypso Louie.

Make sure there aren’t any Raelians around when you do, though, or there may be an argument.

BTW, anybody heard from (channeled) Spaceship Ruthie lately?


20 posted on 07/11/2008 4:14:48 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
And the aliens never get a cut! ;)

Oh, come now!

The caterers usually hire a couple of so of them; and some probably work on the clean up crew.

21 posted on 07/11/2008 4:17:30 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: wallace144
The real truth about Bartzen and "space aliens":

TICKETS: $30 (Non-Reserved Seating)
*$50 (Reserved Seating plus After Party)*
includes 1 meal & 1 drink at THE RED PLANET DINER

See MYTHS IN SPACE SCIENCE: Debunked
by Astrophysicist James R. Bartzen III, PhD
in lecture with film and music by Bradley D. Blalock

22 posted on 07/11/2008 4:19:17 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: Las Vegas Dave; Quix
Ping!
23 posted on 07/11/2008 4:33:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: wallace144

And they were flying over Phoenix, AZ, because...?

Last time I checked “black” technology (technology of color?) did its stuff over sparsely populated areas and, occasionally, other countries.


24 posted on 07/11/2008 4:36:01 PM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: SunkenCiv; Las Vegas Dave; ActionNewsBill; AFreeBird; airborne; albertp; ALASKA; ...

END TIMES PING LIST PING

Please let Las Vegas Dave and I know if you want on or off the list.

Thanks, will ping the list.

I thought flash was turned off! LOL.


25 posted on 07/11/2008 4:36:05 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: Salamander

!!?!


26 posted on 07/11/2008 4:39:42 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting video teaser:

http://www.abc15.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=558a7754-ae33-4e91-a97d-fdace0e3d2e6


27 posted on 07/11/2008 4:40:51 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: wallace144

This kind of stuff always makes me chuckle. Sure, some planes are mistaken for UFO`s. But if we actually had something that could manuver like UFO`s did, we would`nt be wasting billions on conventional aircraft like the F-22 or stealth bombers. We would only need a few to take out every air force on the planet.


28 posted on 07/11/2008 4:54:05 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: SunkenCiv

FREAKY PIC

WHETHER photoshopped or not.

http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll152/jpvskyfreak/?action=view&current=humanoid1.jpg


29 posted on 07/11/2008 4:56:07 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: chessplayer

My relative worked around fleets of them more than 35 years ago.

Smoke screens can be expensive.


30 posted on 07/11/2008 4:56:52 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: BenLurkin

Another odd looking . . . humanoid.

http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll152/jpvskyfreak/?action=view&current=humanoid2.jpg


31 posted on 07/11/2008 4:59:06 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: Quix

fake but accurate? ;’)


32 posted on 07/11/2008 4:59:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: Quix

LOL.

Good gag.

One of the originals:

http://www.rafapal.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/marduk-buena.jpg


33 posted on 07/11/2008 5:00:16 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: Vinnie

Delta blimps

Palmdale CAlif

NAvy program

Just coming out of the black to the twlight.....


34 posted on 07/11/2008 5:00:32 PM PDT by ASOC
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To: SunkenCiv

Sometimes one wonders.

I’d suspect just 14 year olds or 14 year olds emotionally . . . having fun.


35 posted on 07/11/2008 5:01:05 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: Vinnie
The triangles overflying the area, another matter. Haven’t seen any explanation for them.

I saw the triangle formation. I was coming out of a friends house in an exclusive neighborhood in Chandler when I looked up and saw a huge triangle of lights coming very slowly south from over the McDowells. The pictures that I have seen of the Phoenix lights match exactly what I saw then. The only problem is that I saw them in February of '97 and the Phoenix lights incident happened in March.

When I saw them, I stopped and was staring at them but my friend continued talking. As I watched (and I admit my first thought was UFO) the entire formation stopped.

My buddy noticed that I was looking at the sky and he looked up to see what I was watching. At that point, the light on (my) right started forward, made a 90 degree turn and crossed in front of the formation. My friend said "Oh those. We see them all the time" and began describing how he and his son had watched the same formation from his son's second floor bedroom window just before Christmas.

My mind was reeling but then I remembered that we were only a few miles from Falcon Field and that they were training German pilots on the Apache. We went back to our previous conversation. I am 100% convinced that the Phoenix lights were Apaches.

36 posted on 07/11/2008 5:19:50 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: BenLurkin

37 posted on 07/11/2008 6:35:40 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent......)
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To: Quix
Interesting video teaser:

Beard, hat, on TV... he's losing his hair.

40 posted on 07/11/2008 6:43:33 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: wallace144
if he turns up dead... i'll believe it.
42 posted on 07/11/2008 7:00:26 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/NYARLATHOTEP'08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: Swordmaker

I don’t get your point.


43 posted on 07/11/2008 8:43:25 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: MARTIAL MONK

There’s at least 10,000 other witnesses who disagree.

Though one might need to compare times to be certain the same phenomena were being viewed.

The airline pilot flying his small private plane above the mile+ large craft asserted that he could have landed his airliner on the craft with plenty of room to spare.


44 posted on 07/11/2008 8:45:24 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: wallace144
Sounds like a lithium adjustment problem to me.

A little more a little less...

45 posted on 07/11/2008 8:45:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36 Olympics for murdering regimes Beijing '08)
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To: wallace144

for later


46 posted on 07/12/2008 6:29:14 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Salamander

Hey mom, there’s something in the backroom
Hope it’s not the creatures from above
You used to read me stories, as if my dreams were boring
We all know conspiracies are dumb

What if people knew that these were real (real)
I’d leave my closet door open all night
I know the CIA would say “what you hear is all hearsay”
Wish someone would tell me what was right

Up all night long
And there’s something very wrong
And I know it must be late
Been gone since yesterday
I’m not like you guys
I’m not like you

I am still the skeptic, yes, you know me (you know me)
Been best friends and will be ‘til we die (die)
I got an injection of fear from the abduction
My best friend thinks I’m just telling lies, alright

Up all night long
And there’s something very wrong
And I know it must be late
Been gone since yesterday
I’m not like you guys
I’m not like you

Dark and scary, ordinary
Explanation, information
Nice to know ya, paranoia
Where’s my mother, biofather

Up all night long
And there’s something very wrong
And I know it must be late
Been gone since yesterday
I’m not like you guys
Twelve majestic lies


47 posted on 07/13/2008 2:05:46 AM PDT by The SISU kid (I feel really homesick all the time & so do all the other aliens.....)
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To: The SISU kid; shibumi

Take Me Away

Strange shapes light up the night
Never seen them though I hope I might
Don’t ask if they are real
The men in black, their lips are sealed

Fantasy fills my mind
To leave this place before my time
Release myself from earthly care
My dream may be your nightmare

I turn my hopes up to the sky
I’d like to know before I die
Memories will slowly fade
I lift my eyes and say
Come on take me away
Come on take me away

Come here, girl, close to me
A thousand stars your eyes can see
First one we see tonight
I wish I may I wish I might

I turn my hopes up to the sky
I’d like to know before I die
Memories will slowly fade
I lift my eyes and say
Come on take me away
Come on take me away

I turn my hopes up to the sky
I’d like to know before I die
Memories will slowly fade
I lift my eyes and say
Come on take me away
I lift my eyes and say
Come on take me away
I lift my eyes and say
Come on take me away
I lift my eyes and say
Come on take me away
I lift my eyes and say
Come on take me away

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2KhMomocD28


48 posted on 07/13/2008 3:36:11 AM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent......)
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