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The $5 trillion mess
Fortune magazine ^ | July 11, 2008: 5:38 PM EDT | By Katie Benner

Posted on 07/11/2008 4:19:55 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin

They own or guarantee $5 trillion worth of mortgages­ - nearly half of all the country's outstanding home loan debt - and they're crashing. Big time.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are struggling with an investor loss of confidence so great that, while they're unlikely to go under, they could conceivably see their ability to function impaired. That would wreak yet more havoc on an already wrecked housing market- making loans tougher to come by and possibly pushing hundreds of billions of dollars in cost onto U.S. taxpayers.

How could the companies end up in such awful straits?

... as quasi-government programs, they've long carried an implicit guarantee that the feds wouldn't let them fail.

Their hybrid nature created both the opportunity and the temptation for the enterprises to take on more risk and to make themselves ever larger, more important and thus more profitable players in the mortgage market.

The market and ratings agencies have treated Fannie and Freddie as bulletproof, even though the actual business of dealing with interest sensitive loans is very risky. This is in large part because of the very special perks granted to the mortgage giants, but to no one else.

Each may borrow up to $2.25 billion direct from the Treasury. They are exempt from state and local income taxes and from Securities and Exchange Commission registration requirements and fees. And they can use the Federal Reserve as their bank.

One result of all this special treatment was AAA credit ratings. That means Fannie and Freddie could borrow at super-low rates, a benefit they used to purchase - and hold - high-yielding mortgage loans. The spread between the two provided an irresistible earnings stream and the companies just kept getting bigger.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: fannie; fanniemae; freddie; freddiemac; govwatch; housing

1 posted on 07/11/2008 4:19:55 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: DeaconBenjamin

I work for a bank and we bought a house in April.

Anyone got a bullet?


2 posted on 07/11/2008 4:23:13 PM PDT by RockinRight (I just paid $63 for gas. An icefield in Alaska is NOT the Grand Canyon. F--- the caribou.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Weren’t the former CEO’s of both Mac and Mae fired for illegal actions?


3 posted on 07/11/2008 4:28:16 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

See ya later bagholders! I'm off to spend my 200 million severance package.

4 posted on 07/11/2008 4:34:38 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: raybbr

No One and I mean No One can figure out Fannie or Freddie. I have been saying it for years. You could write a thesis on it and still not figure them out.


5 posted on 07/11/2008 4:34:59 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: RockinRight
Anyone got a bullet?

Find the Lone Ranger. His bullets are silver.

6 posted on 07/11/2008 4:35:25 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: DeaconBenjamin

This was under $2 trillion earlier this week. $5 trillion is starting to get into series teritory.


7 posted on 07/11/2008 4:35:59 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: Orange1998
still not figure them out..........

A sinecure for satraps of BOTH PARTIES !!!

8 posted on 07/11/2008 4:37:15 PM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Dunno if anyone’s posted a thread on it yet, but federal regulators just siezed IndyBank.


9 posted on 07/11/2008 4:37:51 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: DeaconBenjamin
I remember the Wall Street Journal - ten years ago - predicting exactly this situation.

Clinton had put unqualified cronies in charge of the two companies who proceeded to steer the organizations down a path of sub-prime lending in order to pad their paychecks with "performance bonuses" in the millions.

The thieves got away with it.

10 posted on 07/11/2008 4:39:05 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car.........with guns.)
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To: raybbr
Weren’t the former CEO’s of both Mac and Mae fired for illegal actions?

Franklin Raines was fired as CEO of Fannie in 2004 for cooking the books to the tune of almost $11 billion.   He used to be Clinton's director of OMB, by the way.

11 posted on 07/11/2008 4:40:30 PM PDT by Libertarian444
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
If I'd written loans on commission, I'd have made out quite well as house prices escaltated (as many did). To think I'd have zero responsibility is rather neat.

Could someone ping me when the next 'scam' begins so I can get in on the groundfloor and make out like a bandit too? Be it gold, or some South American, wool producing quadraped?

12 posted on 07/11/2008 4:50:02 PM PDT by budwiesest (Barack is going to lose by 37 states. He'll only take 20.)
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To: Libertarian444

Just look at the guys/gays who ran these companies and you will see their problem. If the CEO is busy arranging a mortgage for Senator Dodd, with Countrywide in his office, I guess you get the picture.


13 posted on 07/11/2008 4:51:40 PM PDT by Oldexpat (Drill Here, Drill There..we must drill everywhere.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
Of course the “Gummint” is going to bail them out in effect saying, “Go on doing what you were doing, we'll shove your incompetence on the iggerint taxpayers”.
14 posted on 07/11/2008 4:53:15 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

We need to make sure that everyone we know understands this is Not the fault of President Bush or John McCain. This problem, like all of America’s problems, was caused by Carter, Clinton and the Democrat Party.


15 posted on 07/11/2008 4:57:15 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Didn’t FDR shut down all the banks when he first came into office in ‘32 until they proved they were solvent? Could that be done today?


16 posted on 07/11/2008 5:10:49 PM PDT by rushed
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To: DeaconBenjamin
I know it sounds cold but I really don't give a damn about the Freddie and Sally.

Sanctioning sub-prime high risk loans to anyone with a pulse. The banks in their stables and their lackadaisical underwriters were giving away mortgages like candy to people who had no business buying a house in the first place.

Hell, even illegal immigrants were able to get mortgages which is right disgusting IMO.

I say, let them crash and burn.

17 posted on 07/11/2008 5:17:18 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS
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To: DeaconBenjamin

This is what you get when you take an entity that is supposed to be run like a business and populate it with political hacks.


18 posted on 07/11/2008 5:23:51 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: skeeter
>>>>Dunno if anyone’s posted a thread on it yet, but federal regulators just siezed IndyBank.<<<<

Second largest bank failure in history, no doubt there was an ample supply of golden parachutes to go around.

19 posted on 07/11/2008 5:29:41 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS
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To: RockinRight

whatya need a bullet for?


20 posted on 07/11/2008 5:44:07 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

Everything I see indicated the Government wants these companies to be MORE aggressive in extending credit. They will do ANYTHING to keep the facade in place. The truth is that all these guarantees only fuels inflation, making the problem even worse. Of course, don’t try telling that to “Helicopter Ben”.


21 posted on 07/11/2008 5:56:12 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: ken21

If we’re all indeed as f**ked as some suggest...


22 posted on 07/11/2008 6:16:33 PM PDT by RockinRight (I just paid $63 for gas. An icefield in Alaska is NOT the Grand Canyon. F--- the caribou.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

“[House] price increases largely reflect strong economic fundamentals, including robust growth in jobs and incomes, low mortgage rates, steady rates of household formation, and factors that limit the expansion of housing supply in some areas.” — Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, Oct. 20, 2005

“[The housing downturn] looks to be a very orderly and moderate kind of cooling.” — Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, May 18, 2006

“All the signs I look at [show] the housing market is at or near the bottom.” — Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, April 20, 2007

“I don’t see [subprime mortgage market troubles] imposing a serious problem. I think it’s going to be largely contained.” — Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, April 20, 2007

“Given the fundamental factors in place that should support the demand for housing, we believe the effect of the troubles in the subprime sector on the broader housing market will likely be limited.” — Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, May 17, 2007


23 posted on 07/11/2008 6:27:15 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (My grandkids will ask-Was there really a time when I could get on a plane without removing my shoes?)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

My favorite quote about this image was something like “Countrywide CEO demonstrates that you can fit in a Lamborghini, even with 2 senators in your back pocket.”


24 posted on 07/11/2008 6:38:10 PM PDT by ikka
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To: RockinRight

cheer up!

some people enjoy self pity. as harry truman said—my mother-in-law’s happiest when she is unhappy.

from what i see the economy’s moving along; the last quarter’s growth exceeded expectations.

financials, housing, cars ... are going to be off until well into 2009.

once the banks digest their losses the economy will move up.

life goes on.


25 posted on 07/11/2008 6:44:30 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: RockinRight

In keeping with the times, the magazine that published this article is being renamed “MisFortune”. Others considering new names include Business Weak and funnyMoney. Smart Investor is considering dropping the adjective.


26 posted on 07/11/2008 6:44:44 PM PDT by Defiant (It pains my brain to vainly vote McCain.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2031535/posts

The looting of Fannie Mae by Democrat insiders
Wash Post ^ | 2006 | Wash Post

Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:01:42 PM by dennisw


27 posted on 07/11/2008 7:03:55 PM PDT by april15Bendovr (Free Republic & Ron Paul Cult = oxymoron)
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To: budwiesest

Next big scam will be alternative energy, green technology, sustainable products, etc...
You’re already seeing it ramp up with these companies trading carbon credits, politicians using it as a pandering tool like when they claimed it was a “right” to be a real estate owner, and green product home shows.”


28 posted on 07/11/2008 7:32:33 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: HEY4QDEMS
I say, let them crash and burn.

Even if what you say is true, a lot of 401Ks, pension funds, and investments are crashing and burning with them. It wasn't long ago that Fannie and Freddie were said to be bullet proof.

29 posted on 07/11/2008 7:57:41 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
This is what you get when you take an entity that is supposed to be run like a business and populate it with political hacks.

If you want an entity to be run like a business, make certain it isn't sucking on the federal teat from the gitgo.

30 posted on 07/11/2008 7:59:11 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: DeaconBenjamin; All

From My article "Will the Left Ever Support the War on Terrorism?" at Townhall.com

Ironic how the Left was eager to expose Enron executives but ignored the suspicion that head 9-11 Commissioner Jamie Gorelick benefited financially from the $10.8 billion scandal involving accounting irregularities and outrageous bonuses at Fannie Mae.

The Business & Media Institute’s Web site (www.freemarketproject.org) had a story titled “Media Ignore Democratic Ties to Fannie Mae Scandal,” which asserted: “The Business & Media Institute previously documented how much the media overlooked about Democratic connections to Fannie Mae. According to that April 2005 report: ‘Former Chief Executive Officer Franklin Raines and former Vice Chairman Jamie Gorelick were both instrumental figures in the Clinton administration.’ ” Not a word mentioned during the 9-11 hearing about that news or the fact that as No. 2 in the Clinton Justice Department as Deputy Attorney General, in 1995 Gorelick was a key architect of an information "wall" causing intelligence lapses leading to 9-11. Gorelick’s participation on the 9-11 Commission clearly was a conflict of interest. A 2004 Washington Times article titled “Memos show Gorelick involvement in 'wall'” noted: “Newly released Justice Department memos show that September 11 panel commissioner Jamie S. Gorelick was more intimately involved than previously thought with hampering communications between U.S. intelligence and law-enforcement agencies fighting terrorism.

As the No. 2 person in the Clinton Justice Department, Ms. Gorelick rejected advice from the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, who warned against placing more limits on communications between law-enforcement officials and prosecutors pursuing counterterrorism cases, according to several internal documents written in summer 1995.”

31 posted on 07/11/2008 9:13:56 PM PDT by april15Bendovr (Free Republic & Ron Paul Cult = oxymoron)
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To: RockinRight

I work for a bank and we bought a house in April.

Anyone got a bullet?
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If you get in trouble just ring up Bernacke ,, the Fed has no hard and fast rules about who can get a loan at the discount window (it’s more of a guideline really) ,,, it’s open to everyone!


32 posted on 07/11/2008 9:24:49 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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