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Vanity: Google buries disputed Barack Obama Birth Certificates - they are gone from index
Google | 07/11/2008 | Swordmaker

Posted on 07/12/2008 12:08:55 AM PDT by Swordmaker

Strange thing. Google has buried the disputed Birth Certificate images. They are NOT in Google's image results when searching "Obama Birth Certificate" or "Barack Obama Certificate" or "Obama Certificate of Live Birth". They have lots of general pictures of Obama and pictures of generic BCs or joke ones, but not the ones being disputed. I've gone over 20 pages deep, 400 images, and NOT found any of the disputed images or the various post KOS posting created variations. That is very suspicious... someone is hiding something.

Even More Strange: I searched through 980 images out of over 18,700 of a search for Barack Obama "Birth Certificate" and 480 images of Barack Obama "Certificate of Live Birth" and did not find ONE image of the disputed Birth Certificate. On the first search, after 980 images, it came to a screen that said

"Your search - Barack Obama "Birth Certificate" - did not match any documents.

Suggestions:
Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
Try different keywords.
Try more general keywords.

Why do I suddenly feel that the old Soviet Union is alive and well in the United States? Data is being erased by not being indexed. These images were there a week ago—now they are not.


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KEYWORDS: bc; bias; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; doevil; google; googlecorrupt; googledems; googlessp; obama; obamagate
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1 posted on 07/12/2008 12:08:55 AM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: Swordmaker

strange indeed


2 posted on 07/12/2008 12:10:11 AM PDT by abigkahuna (Step on up folks and see the "Strange Thing" only a thin dollar, babies free)
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To: All

If the messenger is dishonest, how can you trust the message?


3 posted on 07/12/2008 12:10:21 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

That’s because the secret has been uncovered.

The Senator wasn’t born in the United States. No matter what the Democrats do at this point it will be inevitable: he is not eligible to be POTUS, period. They will have to float another candidate and after the way the Clintons have been treated, no Democrat leaders want them back in Power.


4 posted on 07/12/2008 12:17:07 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: Swordmaker

The Google founders are big time Dumocrats, what do you expect?

Try dogpile, the rw/cons search engine and you’ll find it.


5 posted on 07/12/2008 12:17:07 AM PDT by max americana
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To: Swordmaker

Thanks for posting this thread. I saw your post on the other thread and it struck me as something worthy of its own thread. Keep up the good work.


6 posted on 07/12/2008 12:18:39 AM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: All

ON THE INTERNET:

http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&client=safari&um=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=obama+%2B+birth+certificate&scoring=d

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&q=obama+%2B+birth+certificate&btnG=Search


7 posted on 07/12/2008 12:24:05 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Swordmaker
Btw... despite what the trashy Reason website and the more respectable Little Green Footballs say, the certification of live birth is a phony and a bad one at that: Forensic expert: The birth certificate is still a horrible forgery
8 posted on 07/12/2008 12:29:51 AM PDT by Stepan12 ( "We are all girlymen now." Conservative reaction to Ann Coulter's anti PC joke)
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To: max americana
not there that I saw but still here


9 posted on 07/12/2008 12:34:32 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: All
This is even more disturbing. Here is an image that appears at first glance to be similar to the disputed Birth Certificate that came up on a new Google search BHO's birth certificate. Google says the image is on FreeRepublic:

It isn't!

Here is the location the image is supposed to be:



And here is the image, blown up, that shows it is a Marriage Certificate!

Where is it? Why does Google put a fake image reference onto FreeRepublic that never was there? What is going on?

Somebody is playing games.

10 posted on 07/12/2008 12:36:13 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker
This is getting weird. And scary.



Then, the sun came out and the birds started singing ...
11 posted on 07/12/2008 12:37:29 AM PDT by Liberty Valance ( Discourse has greatly improved here since FR fired the AP. Thank you Jim!)
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To: Cindy
ON THE INTERNET:

http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&client=safari&um=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=obama+%2B+birth+certificate&scoring=d

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&q=obama+%2B+birth+certificate&btnG=Search

Yeah, the website links are still there but the images are gone from Google's image results. Click on the "images" option at the top. How long do you think it will be before the website links will remain?

12 posted on 07/12/2008 12:42:02 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Liberty Valance
Then, the sun came out and the birds started singing ...

Cue Twilight Zone Theme...

13 posted on 07/12/2008 12:43:36 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Cindy; All
One of the comments I found on Gretawire that popped up by clicking your link:

A day after Jesse Jackson’s comments, Michelle Obama was in Kansas City, MO where she stated the following: ‘His [Barack] own mother, she said at the beginning of her remarks, was “very young and very single when she had him.” Is this why Barack Hussein Obama is scared to release his Birth Certificate? Oh Michelle, be careful, you will be the next one under the bus.

14 posted on 07/12/2008 12:46:31 AM PDT by Aria (Obama: Potluck for President! "I serve as a blank screen on which people..project their own views")
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To: Swordmaker
How long do you think it will be before the website links will remain?

Make that: How long do you think it will be before the website links will disappear?

15 posted on 07/12/2008 12:46:31 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker
gagrule censoring? No! How can that be. . . .

Does the birth certificate look like it has anything to do with guns? :)

16 posted on 07/12/2008 12:48:13 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Swordmaker

The image may be gone, but the ordinary google still gives me results.


17 posted on 07/12/2008 12:54:17 AM PDT by paudio (Like it or not, 'conservatism' is a word with many meanings. Yours may be different from mine.)
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To: abigkahuna

Look, it’s a free country. Google is not the government. Google can do what it damn pleases. Your comparison to the Soviet Union is absurd. One more time: Google is not the government.


18 posted on 07/12/2008 1:02:20 AM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: Swordmaker
I used dogpile.com and typed in search box Obama’s birth certificate.

Here is the LA times version:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html

19 posted on 07/12/2008 1:09:42 AM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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To: SatinDoll

I suspect in the end...we will find that a young woman with a PhD who was a bit naive and unable to cope in the real world. The relationships that she had with men...were always fellow male students who were from exotic countries. When she got pregnant...she generally left the raising of the kids to her mother. Neither of the relationships she had that produced kids...were of any significance. Neither guy stayed around.

The fact that the kid was born in Hawaii...has yet to be disproved in any aspect. While the birth certificate has some suspect problems assigned to it...we are left with few alternate conclusions.

As long as he was born in Hawaii...of any parent...even if wasn’t his mother as claimed...then he still ends up with citizenship and this argument is a joke. The only way the argument becomes real...is if he was born on another island in the Pacific...not from this American mother...and she simply took him as an adoption situation. In this case...he isn’t an American citizen. But this scenario has no real basis and I doubt it can be proven.

Why does Google remove the certificates? I’m guessing that they really don’t want to invent some suggestion out of thin air to support this argument. The one scenario I’ve heard so far that might fit this discussion...is that the mother didn’t deliver a live birth....went into a slight depression and then adopted from thin air some child to fit her fragile mind’s requirements. The birth certificate would have been generated by someone to help cover bases and make this all appear legitimate later.


20 posted on 07/12/2008 1:10:57 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Swordmaker

Google sez:

Results 1 - 10 of about 146,000 for Barack Obama “Birth Certificate”. (0.12 seconds)


21 posted on 07/12/2008 1:18:21 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Tom Manion '08-My only reason for voting this year)
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To: Swordmaker

22 posted on 07/12/2008 1:25:55 AM PDT by Coffee200am
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To: Fresh Wind

I should add, there are plenty google hits which lead to the birth certificate images. Google images is not, and has never been, reliable.


23 posted on 07/12/2008 1:26:01 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Tom Manion '08-My only reason for voting this year)
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To: pepsionice

Stanley Ann Dunham, it has recently come to light, dropped in to visit her best friend on Mercer Island three weeks after giving birth to little Barry.

This “friend” stated in an interview that Stanley Ann had come down to Mercer Island (located across Puget Sound from Seattle) all the way from Vancouver, British Columbia, in Canada.

In 1961 direct flights between Vancouver B.C. and Hawaii had just begun. Infants were not allowed on board. If Dunham had left Hawaii for British Columbia it had to have been before delivery of her baby. And as she was only 18 years old, someone had to pay her way.

Barack Hussein Obama Sr., being from Kenya, was a British citizen, as Kenya was part of the British protectorate. Here I enter a purely speculative area - was their baby born in Vancouver as a British citizen? What is going through an 18-year old girl’s head that would drive her to go to Canada while pregnant?

We know she hated America, was a communist as young teenager, and attracted to men who were NOT American. It is not a stretch to believe she did not want her son to be an American either.

Too bad Barbara Ann Dunham, the Senator’s mother, is being held incommunicado in Hawaii (I am beginning to suspect it may not be all voluntary.) She has all the answers and it looks as though Senator Obama is a very, great scam artist.


24 posted on 07/12/2008 1:32:49 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: Chgogal; paudio; Fresh Wind
Here is the LA times version:

The Web ARTICLE links are still indexed. The IMAGES of the Birth Certificate are not. They were there last week. I used them. They're gone now. Click on the image option at the top of the Google result screen and try looking for them.

See? Where it says "Web Images Maps News Shopping Gmail more"?

Or, just click on the image of the Google page above.

25 posted on 07/12/2008 1:51:33 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Chgogal
I used dogpile.com and typed in search box Obama’s birth certificate.

Articles, no images:


26 posted on 07/12/2008 1:57:51 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Fresh Wind
Google images is not, and has never been, reliable.

Last week there were dozens of links in the images to the various "Birth Certificates"—this week there are none, zero, nada. That is not mere "unreliability," that's enemy action.

27 posted on 07/12/2008 2:00:59 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Technical Editor
Look, it’s a free country. Google is not the government. Google can do what it damn pleases. Your comparison to the Soviet Union is absurd. One more time: Google is not the government.

You're right, however there are certainly some concerning implications. From the perspective of media and control, Google certainly carries a powerful influence. They are controlling the content of the debate on this issue and the availability of access to facts to support that debate one way or another. We can see what direction they want it to take if the implications of this thread are correct.

Now excuse me whilst I run about in circles screaming histerically...

28 posted on 07/12/2008 2:20:25 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob
Now excuse me whilst I run about in circles screaming histerically...

Thanks for joining me...

;^)>

29 posted on 07/12/2008 2:34:28 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: SatinDoll

So is his maternal grandmother still alive? I had always been under the assumption that she was deceased. I thuoght we would have heard from her if she was alive. Barack’s always seemed to mention her in past tense. If she is alive, why do we never hear from her or see pictures of Barack with her? Is the grandfather alive too?


30 posted on 07/12/2008 3:09:31 AM PDT by Pinkbell (Don't blame me, I supported Duncan Hunter.)
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To: Swordmaker; LucyT; David; txflake; Calpernia; null and void

Images Showing: All image sizesExtra Large imagesLarge imagesMedium imagesSmall images Results 1 - 20 of about 12,000 for Barack Obama “Birth Certificate”. . (0.08 seconds)

I just clicked my way through all the Google Image pages, couldn’t find ONE CoLB image for obama. Well, at least we know they have been busy. I posted a comment on an obama thread today, and I kid you not, within MINUTES that comment was linked on Google. They are watching us...

Hey, there’s ONE source where nothing’s changed. The fightthesmears site still has it, unchanged. Maybe that’s the intention...

Type OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE into Google Search and this is what you get:

Fight the Smears | The truth about Barack’s birth certificate Friend — You may have recently heard right-wing smears questioning Barack Obama’s birth certificate and citizenship. These assertions are completely false ...
my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert - 14k - Cached - Similar pages


31 posted on 07/12/2008 3:34:49 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: SatinDoll
"Too bad Barbara Ann Dunham, the Senator’s mother, is being held incommunicado in Hawaii (I am beginning to suspect it may not be all voluntary.)"

Madelyn Lee Payne Dunham is Obama's grandmother. She is 86 years old. His mother is deceased.

32 posted on 07/12/2008 3:54:05 AM PDT by Mila
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To: Swordmaker

So, the upshot is, when anyone is looking for a copy of the CoLB on Google Images, they won’t find it, but if they go to Google Search - if they click the first item, they end up on fightthesmears...


33 posted on 07/12/2008 4:06:11 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Swordmaker

that marriage certificate link is here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2032572/replies?c=59


34 posted on 07/12/2008 4:09:51 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Swordmaker

Very odd - when I do the same search (albeit on Scroogle, not Google), I get a TON of hits, several of which take me to the certificate itself - LATimes, Michelle Malkin, Digg, Reason, HotAir, DailyKOs, Obama’s site, Obama’s “Smear Site,” etc.

I am searching from Canada, too - wonder if that makes a difference?


35 posted on 07/12/2008 4:43:23 AM PDT by milky
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To: Swordmaker

Is it a surprise that leftists are in control at Google, and are using their company to further their leftist agenda?


36 posted on 07/12/2008 4:54:10 AM PDT by BooksForTheRight.com (Fight liberal lies with knowledge. Read conservative books and articles.)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

More sanitization.


37 posted on 07/12/2008 5:00:57 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: SatinDoll
In 1961 direct flights between Vancouver B.C. and Hawaii had just begun. Infants were not allowed on board. If Dunham had left Hawaii for British Columbia it had to have been before delivery of her baby. And as she was only 18 years old, someone had to pay her way. Barack Hussein Obama Sr., being from Kenya, was a British citizen, as Kenya was part of the British protectorate. Here I enter a purely speculative area - was their baby born in Vancouver as a British citizen? What is going through an 18-year old girl's head that would drive her to go to Canada while pregnant? We know she hated America, was a communist as young teenager, and attracted to men who were NOT American. It is not a stretch to believe she did not want her son to be an American either. Too bad Barbara Ann Dunham, the Senator's mother, is being held incommunicado in Hawaii (I am beginning to suspect it may not be all voluntary.) She has all the answers and it looks as though Senator Obama is a very, great scam artist.

Fascinating stuff--perhaps the scam artist is not Obama himself but rather his handlers or backers.

This would make a fantastic novel even if it weren't true. Then we could have "mom" escape from her watchers and post to FR and...the rest would be history. :-)


38 posted on 07/12/2008 5:10:44 AM PDT by cgbg (For rent until after the end of this miserable election.)
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To: Swordmaker
it's called Down the Memory Hole...
39 posted on 07/12/2008 5:11:15 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/NYARLATHOTEP'08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: Fred Nerks

The marriage certificate link was posted by a newbie.

Possible set-up?


40 posted on 07/12/2008 5:18:26 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Chode; Swordmaker

S’ok. Thousands of people have both the KOS and Obama fakes and can propagate them.


41 posted on 07/12/2008 5:18:48 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: SatinDoll
It only takes a week or ten days to travel by ship from Hawaii to Vancouver and sailing was probable cheaper than flying back in 1961. The probably allowed infants aboard too.
42 posted on 07/12/2008 5:22:55 AM PDT by relee ('Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away)
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To: Swordmaker

I’ll bet if you Googled anything which is scandalous, demeaning or accusatory about a Republican, it will still be there even it happened back to founding of this country.

Thought control.


43 posted on 07/12/2008 5:25:09 AM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: Swordmaker
Get a clue; stop using Google for anything. Anything would include maps and search engine tool bars. There are several other good search engines that are honest and objective which have the information you are seeking.

e.g.
ask.com
AskJeeves
Scroogle

44 posted on 07/12/2008 5:29:09 AM PDT by Banjoguy (Nancy Pelosi and the Democrat party are among the enemies of The Republic.)
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To: Jim Robinson
ping...
45 posted on 07/12/2008 5:29:51 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/NYARLATHOTEP'08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: Swordmaker

Maybe someone oughta write google perhaps. I wonder what else is missing from google that we might never know about.


46 posted on 07/12/2008 5:33:37 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom and individual liberty is for everyone, including the odd and weird people like you.)
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To: relee
It only takes a week or ten days to travel by ship from Hawaii to Vancouver and sailing was probable cheaper than flying back in 1961. The probably allowed infants aboard too.

By 1961, except for ferries, people in the U.S. were not using ships as a means of transportation. Flying was cheaper and faster, even then in the olden days of 1961.
47 posted on 07/12/2008 5:34:26 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: pepsionice; SatinDoll; Swordmaker
I suspect in the end...we will find that a young woman with a PhD who was a bit naive and unable to cope in the real world.

She was 17 when she got pregnant with Barry. She didn't have a Ph.D. until much later.

The fact that the kid was born in Hawaii...has yet to be disproved in any aspect.

It is not a fact. It's merely an uncorroborated assertion, but one that is easy enough to back up if true. There has been no backing up. The burden is not on anyone to prove that Barry was not born in Hawaii or elsewhere in the U.S. The burden is entirely upon Barry to prove that he is a U.S. citizen by birth according to U.S. law at the time of his birth. This is a constitutional burden, and one that he, to date, has not been willing to shoulder.
48 posted on 07/12/2008 5:43:34 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Fresh Wind
"I should add, there are plenty google hits which lead to the birth certificate images. Google images is not, and has never been, reliable. "

When I just tried a Google images search, it returned sites that contained the fake certificate, but the images shown were not the fake certificate (not once in the 100 or so images I inspected). If you follow the link and look around, it's there.

Now was this intentional? It looks highly suspicious, the law of averages would seem to say Google should at least find a few correct images.

49 posted on 07/12/2008 5:56:24 AM PDT by HangThemHigh (Entropy's not what it used to be.)
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To: Technical Editor

“Look, it’s a free country. Google is not the government. Google can do what it damn pleases. Your comparison to the Soviet Union is absurd. One more time: Google is not the government.”

I think it’s the other way around. To me, it seems like the government can do anything it pleases, and there’s nothing We The Sheeple can do about it.

On the other hand, Google markets itself as a search engine - not a leftist propaganda machine, and is thus defrauding the millions of people who are using it who are expecting a simple “search and find” function from it (as opposed to “search and find and then modify according to liberal ideology).

It’s also disturbing that not only is information being censored from google results, but that false information has evidently been planted there. This story needs to get out, because only a drop in public confidence (and use) can stop them from getting away with whatever manipulation of the facts they want.


50 posted on 07/12/2008 6:07:11 AM PDT by Pravious
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