Posted on 07/12/2008 12:08:55 AM PDT by Swordmaker
If anything, the Google search they are paying for is more restrictive than the free version, correct?
My first trip to Hawaii was on a Navy ship after a long train ride from San Diego to San Francisco. I had my 5th birthday on the trip in 1961. The return to San Diego in the summer of 1963 was via a 707 jet. In 1961 it was cheaper for the Navy to send a bunch of families on an LST vs flying. The trip was about 1 week.
I don't think so, sounds like he was trying to help ID the CoLB document. What's really odd is the marriage certificate image wasn't shown on the thread, just the link. To get it 'up there' someone at Google had to download and copy from the link. And that's deliberate.
You certainly got the goods on San Francisco based Google hiding the BC images alright.
Senator Obama's mother, ne Stanley Ann Dunham, died of cancer c. 1995.
These people need to come forth and give some testimony on U-tube...
Obama's mother died in 1995. The grandmother is sequestered and NOT giving interviews...in Hawaii...
Sorry, you’re correct. I was in too much of a hurry and forgot to add “grand” in front of mother. But I do mention that she is his grandmother elsewhere.
Thanks for noting my oversite.
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A retired commercial airline pilot who is my neighbor. Used to fly in and out of Hawaii for years.
I couldn’t read the marriage certificate; nor any data reflected on it. Could anyone else? Whose marriage?
OK. I wonder if that applied to all carriers?
“whose marriage?”
I have no idea, the image was too small and unclear, and I didn’t think it was significant enough to enlarge it...
I don’t know. But from what I’ve been told, airlines weren’t exactly baby friendly back then.
Who wants poo-filled dirty diapers air-borne inside a commercial aircraft during turbulent conditions?
Especially when trans-continental flights were priced at a premium as they were new. Not only the noise problem introduced by boarding an infant, but the medical implications.
It may be that Google doesn't want to present images of official documents that could be used for making forgeries. Maybe even that State of Hawaii or Homeland Security have asked them to do so. I do not know.
Because Google has not kept it's hands balanced left-vs-right in the past, the deletion of the images as it acts to repress the investigation by citizens for themselves of the issue is reasonably suspicious as being in motive an effective political knee-capping of Obama's opponents.
And just like the questions as do why Obama isn't clarifying the matter of his BC raise issues of his openess and honesty, so to does this event on the part of Google. Both issues could easily be resolved by public openess, by a reasoned and complete explanation that would withstand some scrutiny and due diligence.
Resolved? Maybe if you had something big to hide you wouldn't want it "resolved" either.
Exactly. Since these pics are still on their respective sites, then it was Google which scrubbed and filtered their indexes.
Sooooooo what is itty-bitty baby Barak doing 2500+ miles away from Honolulu?
How did Stanley Ann get him there so quickly that she didn't have time to learn how to diaper him in transit?
Don't tell me he never pooped on a slow boat from Hawai'i to Seattle? Vancouver?
Thanks for that firsthand info. I knew the transition from sea travel to air travel was already in progress in the eastern Pacific, although I’m not certain how far along it was by the summer of 61.
You raise a number of valid points. I don’t believe he was born in Hawaii. His dad, being from a British protectorate, would have been a British citizen back in ‘61.
I’m checking out the possiblitly that Senator Obama was born in Canada. Canadians would know if British citizens are allowed free medical care in Canada. In that case, it makes sense for Obama Sr. to get Stanley Ann to British Columbia for the birth of his son.
What say you?
Back before (about two weeks before) Obama and KOS posted the fake birth certificates, we were calling for a BC here on FR. The real fracas began when he posted fakes as a response to grassroot conjecture!
Some freepers mentioned Canada as a birthplace, six weeks ago. I don’t recall much research into it since then, until now. Canada may be more likely than Kenya as his true birthplace, as it turns out.
I’m becoming more inclined to the Out-of-Canada theory over the Out-of-Africa theory.
Out of Canada is consistent with everything except the badly forged Hawai’ian birth certificate and the rumored statements by his African relatives that they attended his birth.
The one thing (beyond the clumsy rendering of a BC) that really bothers me is itty-bitty baby Barack in Seattle.
Either it was extremely important to go on a long trip with a neonate, or it wasn’t a long trip.
The only reason the legend gives is to meet daddy at Harvard. Since daddy wouldn’t even be at Harvard for another year, I think Stanley Ann could have waited a few more days...
Oh, one more thing, if he really was born in Canada, my hat’s off to his handlers.
They’ve raised rope-a-dope (or is it a limited hangout?) to a new level.
Although they thought they could get away with the funny looking Hawai’an birth certificate, they had a superb “Plan B”.
Plant rumors that he was born in Kenya.
Split the resources of any potential debunkers across half a planet.
Brilliant!
It is my understanding that if you pay for it, you aren't fed PAID primary hits. The free version gets you websites that have paid Google for preemptive positioning on searches for certain items. Your searches will be more accurate as to content and popularity. Also. No Ads.
I think you can specify restrictions as well.
Where is Obamas Mama?
Sorry...the question was just answered in the thread - please disregard.
Yahoo Image search is also scrubbed. You can pull up “birth certifciates” and get birth certificate images but neither “obama birth certificate” nor “decosta birth certificate” return images of certificates. Other names besides those two — such as allen, smith — returned some certificate images, both for Google and Yahoo.
True fever is marked by delusions. That being the case, who is more delusional? Those who scrub the modern public record to maintain an illusion, or those who seek the documentation of a story that the public wishes to ignore?
Oh I wish that reality and human behavior were as described in the "Emperors New Clothes" where a peasant boy merely states the obvious, that the Emperor is naked, and *everyone* is then freed to see and speak of the truth.
But this Obama birth legend tells a different story. The young boy would have been mobbed, beaten down, kicked, stomped, killed and his body dumped over a cliff into mud never to be see or thought of again.
Still, there are those like my own ancestors who bought slaves expressly to free them -- one such slave being Sojourner Truth. In those days everybody was a slaveowner -- those who did not were looked at askance. But we have -- and we Freepers are -- those humble and brave souls who can live in a deluded society and stand up to it and do the right thing. For Truth and Freedom, for Liberty! Hooray!
Thanks.
There is some definite manipulation going on. I’ve been using the search term “Obama Birth Certificate” since this thing started, and for a while, the hits were up to date. Now the hits are out of date, with the older forgery-myth hits as the first ones and the latest hits down at the bottom.
I can definitely do a Search of B.C. Vital Statistics nully. We have an office right here, one in Vancouver and one in Victoria. Wherever they are all connected and we have the forms. I will go to B.C. Online for ya. CO ps. What is the birthdate?
Small baby in Seattle, the mom doesn’t know how to change diapers, is it possible to make a trans-continental flight, assuming she was alone? Not likely, Canada (#8) is a more likely possibility and a heck of a lot cheaper/safer than Kenya.
Anyway, Freepers, place your bets on the TOP TEN Audacities of Truth:
1. Born BHO in Hawaii, just ILLEGITIMATE - no dad listed.
2. Born BHO in Hawaii to a dad listed as ARAB, not negro.
3. Born BHO in Hawaii, to Muslim dad & race listed as WHITE.
4. Born BHO in WA, OR, CA or KS in ‘HOME for UN-WED girls.
5. Born Barry Dunham, not BHO, but born in Hawaii.
6. Born Barry Dunham, some OTHER GUY listed as dad.
7. Born Barry Dunham, in another state as in # 4.
8. Born Barry Dunham in CANADIAN ‘home for un-wed girls’
9. Born Barack Husein Obama in KENYA, Africa, but flown quickly to Hawaii and registered as home birth.
10. Born Barack Husein Obama in KENYA, Africa, and legally naturalized as American citizen at some later date
My guess would be on number 8 - Born in Canada.
But I suspect Obama Sr. made those arrangements, as he would have been a British citizen at that time since Kenya was still a protectorate of Great Britain.
But why would he want his kid born in Canada rather than Hawaii? I suspect he ditched her after a couple of love encounters and never provided financial or moral support. Besides, why would a serial impregnator even care? He had no shame and was likely proud.
The only reason that comes to mind for BhO to want Stanley out of the country would have been perhaps “to avoid facing statutory rape charges for having sex with a minor.” Could he have afforded to fly her anywhere as an unemployed student?
I think it is more likely Stanley’s parents made arrangements to ‘save face’and sent her to the mainland.
But why would he want his kid born in Canada rather than Hawaii? I suspect he ditched her after a couple of love encounters and never provided financial or moral support. Besides, why would a serial impregnator even care? He had no shame and was likely proud.
The only reason that comes to mind for BhO to want Stanley out of the country would have been perhaps “to avoid facing statutory rape charges for having sex with a minor.” Could he have afforded to fly her anywhere as an unemployed student?
I think it is more likely Stanley’s parents made arrangements to ‘save face’and sent her to the mainland.
It may be all the reasons you cited.
The only person who knows anything about the circumstances of the Senator’s birth is his grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, locked away from journalists. And now we know why she is incommunicado.
He is hiding something about the circumstances of his birth. Nothing is that bad, nothing could be that damaging EXCEPT if he was born on foreign soil and is ineligible to be President.
He won’t care after the election. Why should he? The specter of race riots and accusations of racism would be legion if it came to light after the election that he was ineligible all along. The Liberals would herald fears of a civil war if Obama were not to be inaugurated.
I guess #4, born Barry Dunham in Hawaii.
No, Michelle’s comment was no slip of the tongue.
He taught Constitutional Law.
He has always known that if he was born abroad that the only chance at natural born citizenship would be if his mother was considered unmarried at the time of his birth.
Well apparently Google’s Nerd Patrol is reading FR and are afraid of being found out, because the image search is now returning results.
“Look, it’s a free country.”
I remember when it was.
Freepers need to move to Texas.
I’ve given that some thought. I am think the “hill country” would be good.
Oddly enough, you have to descend from the plains down into the ‘hill’/lake country, which is beautiful, where I live.
We used to be an inland sea 63 million years ago or so. You can hike to the tops of ‘hills’ (actually limestone peaks made from exoskeletons of microbugs from then) and open Oyster shells that have been closed that many million years.
It’s cool.
It took about three weeks before they started re-appearing. The news had spread from here around the web on websites and blogs reporting on the BC issues and also BO's dishonesty.
They still aren't all completely back and some that were links to legitimate BC images that used non-representative thumbnails still have the wrong thumbnail.
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