Skip to comments.Vanity: Google buries disputed Barack Obama Birth Certificates - they are gone from index
Posted on 07/12/2008 12:08:55 AM PDT by Swordmaker
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Not anymore. This demonstrates that your ability to perceive the current reality is somewhat... impaired...
Google is not the government. Google can do what it damn pleases. Your comparison to the Soviet Union is absurd. One more time: Google is not the government.
Irrelevant. What Google IS, is a business... a business that markets itself as the world's best, most comprehensive, most reliable and most "credible" search engine...
What this IS, as Pravious noted, is business fraud, and it is entirely appropriate to call them on it.
Take a look at the same search terms using Live.com
Speaking of marriage certificates, there’s not one of those either. B.O.’s papa and mama just shacked up.
It's not fraud. That would be swindling you by deception. As long as the Google search engine is free and makes no warranties as to the completeness of its search results, it can direct you anyplace it chooses.
It's certainly fair to point out that the search results are being manipulated and not objective, but there's no fraud.
If I tell you that I'm a good-looking hunk of beefcake, I've lied, but I've not defrauded you.
Cosmic laughter heard. LOL!
I just typed in Obama’s birth certificate.
Look for an article named “Obama Birth Certificate TOTAL FORGERY FAKE FRAUD; Kos Kaught in Krime!” - Google won’t let you see it due to “warnings”. You can read it in the cached version. The conclusion of the article, I believe is wrong but why the dire warning. People can come to their own conclusions.
LOL! But we have it here! Now it’s time to investigate Google.
Does Obama WANT this story to grow legs, or what?
Your statement is incorrect. The term "fraud" has commonly accepted meanings other than the legal one.
Main Entry: 1 a: deceit, trickery; specifically : intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value or to surrender a legal right b: an act of deceiving or misrepresenting : trick
2 a: a person who is not what he or she pretends to be : impostor; also : one who defrauds : cheat b: one that is not what it seems or is represented to be
When somebody calls it “business fraud” that more than implies a legal definition of the word.
I have to prove I'm eligible to work in the US to get a job, why doesn't he have to prove he's eligible for that job?
Politicians, if you don't hold them to the same standards they hold us to, pretty soon they start to think they are better than we are.
I hope you downloaded all the examples before the purge.
Im looking for a planet, but the system doesnt show on the archive maps. Obi Wan told him.
Lost a planet Obi Wan has, how embarrassing, how embarassing. Yoda commented.
Obi Wan put up the star map while Yoda instructed the younglings so that they would be able to help Obi Wan. He pointed to where the planet should be and stated that gravity is pulling everything to that spot, but nothing was there. Yoda asked for suggestions about helping Obi Wan.
Master, someone erased it from the archive memory. A child said.
Truly wonderful the mind of a child is. Yoda stated.
How could anybody erase data from the archive memory? Thats impossible, isnt it? Obi Wan asked Yoda.
Dangerous and disturbing this puzzle is. Only a Jedi could erase those files. Who and why harder to answer that is. Meditate on this I will. Yoda told Obi Wan.
Both your Google problem and the prescient Star Wars scenario point out the convenience -- and dangers of -- having access to comprehensive databases -- especially if liberals have control of them...
Not in the context of this discussion. This is an online discussion forum, not a courtroom. It was perfectly clear to everyone in this thread, except you, that we were using the term "fraud" simply to connote the deceptive and misrepresentative business practices of Google, not that they had legally defrauded anyone of anything of monetary or otherwise tangible value.
No one here suggests that Google be taken to a court of law over this - it's a matter for the court of public opinion. The issue at hand is simply making people aware of Google's unethical and dishonest business practices, not seeking to contrive some legalistic remedy for non-existent monetary damages.
As I said, everyone else here understood that - it's unfortunate you did not. I do want to thank you, however, for giving us all a refreshing and illuminating demonstration of the term "pedantry"...
Anyone who uses the word “pedantry” is engaged in it himself.
Not so strange. Google does alter or omit things they do not agree with. They’ve been doing it since their existence.
“Only a Jedi could erase those files.” — Indeed!
Thanks, I've got one. The problem is that 95% of the population uses Google to research for FACTS. Google is actively concealing facts with a nefarious purpose. People need to be aware that the non-indexing of pertinent information is as dangerous as posting out-and-out lies as truth.
I went through 980 images using Barack Obama "Birth Certificate" and found none at all. There were links to sites that had (and still have) images of the BC but the images shown were generic Obama campaign pictures or pictures that represented nothing related at all. One of the images that was labeled "Barack Obama's Birth Certificate" was a picture of a bunch of bananas. Clicking on it took you to the website that did have images of BO's BC... but no images of bananas. Similar to the substitution of the Marriage License for the BC on the FreeRepublic link.
Instead of this, from a search done today:
This is deliberate... and dishonest... and destructive of our polity.
Microsoft’s good for something Swordmaker!
Actually he makes a good point in today's posting and has somewhat toned down his own loony use of ad hominems that obscure any logical argument he might have. Toned down, that is. He still suffers from whatever bug of the psyche drives him to be that way -- belittling and derogatory to anyone not sharing his opinion. In Dog-Whisperer talk he's dominant-aggressive passing into the red zone at times.
The point is that after 2001 -- where every terrorist (so it seemed) had a fake state driver's license and one state functionary of a license issuer got very horribly burnt to death in an arson job of her car -- the states actually DID start cleaning up their IDs. My current driver license is full of all sorts of special gimmicks to prevent fake ids, as are NJ's new ones. Pre 9/11 Jersey did have some of the easiest to fake licenses. So easy, entrepreneurs did set up in vans outside of college and beach town bars to make fake licenses on the spot.
Yes, it is possible Hawaii did change the paper, and it maybe possible they did not change the laser printed document label. AJStrata was good for GUESSING that might be the case. But, a guess is just a guess. Would hope someone could tie that down as an actuality.
Still ... what AJ doesn't address is more important than his guesses, even if they happen to be right. Obama has done a modified limited hangout and is stonewalling this basic issue. It is something every citizen should want clear proof for -- both for Obama and for McCain.
Obama's autobiography says he himself has seen a paper copy of his own birth certificate. And that wasn't the one presented either, for he wrote of finding it when he was young. Where is that certificate?
And NOTHING stops Obama for authorizing Hawaii to release records of his birth, all or enough of them to prove the legend of his birth.
Where even is the cert number on the image already released? It was blacked out, that alone INVALIDATES the document.
Also ... AJStrata's mind burst about 9/11 document improvements may explain Google's erasing of the images of those documents. Just speculating and talking it out. Hey all you observers of this fever swamp, that's what WE swamp inhabitants do, we speculate, investigate, discuss and talk things out. "All Things Considered" -- that's FR.
We understand how that is very scary to you more elegant and proper people, because it can get, well, *swampy*. That's the way the real world is at times.
So my speculation about why Google erased the images is: Because Homeland Security or maybe Hawaii asked them to. Otherwise the images could be used by forgers. To me that is a very silly reason, but I am just speculating.
I would disagree. Google sells its search services to other search services, websites, and businesses. Not providing searches done with due diligence to them, if they search for these terms, would definitely be fraud. If I were such a customer, I would sue.
Thanks for not letting the Google Image Search switcheroo drop off into the old bit bucket.
Really? Google sells what it offers for free? That's a unique business model.
Even assuming you're correct, which I doubt, any fraud would have to be determined by what was promised in the contract.
Perhaps if you're a business customer who pays for something that is free, you get a different product.
Headquartered in the San Fransisco bay area? Not too surprising.
www.Scroogle.com gives me an index of soft boobies...
If infants were not allowed on board the long-distance jet flights of 1961, it would still be possible that Obama was birthed at a stopover, and outside the airport. Possibly then in Vancouver, Mercer Island of points in between. That would explain why Stanley did not yet know how to diaper a baby.
I haven't heard anyone say that seriously in at least a decade.
You must be OOOOOLD!
Katherine Smith ping
The pass gave him access to the buildings' sprinkler systems.
I bet he "fixed" them real good...
Treason is not too strong a word.
Darn. I was enjoying the soft boobies....
Gee, thanks for doubting me. Google provides their search engine to many companies and other websites for a fee... and often other search engine sites have contracted with Google for the basic database. Yes, they get customized responses. Some are limited to the companies' intranets or they may be customized to only specific topics.
Is it just me, or is it getting crowded in this dance???
I just looked at that search result and it is a search I did yesterday which came up with 480 hits... now it only gets 370. The internet is crumbling, getting smaller as we type... or...
So all scroogle does is repackage google content?
If google nukes the content, scroogle is screwed....
Nobody goes there anymore, it’s too crowded...
How does one get scroogle to search for images?
Grandfather is deceased. But maternal grandmother is still very much alive--access to her is being tightly controlled; Obama refers to her regularly in the past tense I assume to give the impression that she is not alive. Further, grandmother, even in her mid-90's is mentally very alert and informed. I assume if real access could be obtained and she was willing to talk, the entire story would come out.
Google and Al Gore are business partners in the Current Network.