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McCain Drops Cap and Trade?
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| July 10, 2008
| Lawrence Kudlow
Posted on 07/12/2008 8:34:58 AM PDT by Need4Truth
After writing favorably about Sen. McCains recent economics speeches, where he clearly shifted toward the supply-side both on tax cuts and producing more energy, I went back last evening and carefully read his 15-page policy pamphlet called Jobs for America. Heres what I found: There is no mention of cap-and-trade. None. Nada. There is a section about Cheap, Clean, Secure Energy for America: The Lexington Project. But that talks about expanded domestic production of oil and gas, as well as the need for more nuclear power and coal along with alternative sources. Then it has the $300 million battery and flex-fuel cars. But nope, no cap-and-trade.
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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; 2008; capandtrade; climatechange; energy; flipflop; flipflops; globalwarming; johnwarner; kudlow; mccainlist
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Is this part of the Limbaugh effect?
To: rabscuttle385; indylindy; Grunthor; calcowgirl; Ingtar; djsherin; Sunnyflorida; SoConPubbie; ...
[McCain flip-flop attempt on climate change and the environment...]
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posted on
07/12/2008 8:38:25 AM PDT
by
rabscuttle385
(Off balance sheet liabilities...they're not just for Enron anymore!)
To: Need4Truth
"So then I asked this senior official if the campaign has taken cap-and-trade out behind the barn and shot it dead once and for all buried it in historys dustbin of bad ideas. The answer came back that they are interested in jobs right now jobs for new energy production and jobs from lower taxes. At that point I became satisfied. Even though a McCain presidency might resurrect cap-and-trade, it will be a much different format. More important, the campaign is cognizant of the conservative rebellion against it.
Thats enough for me." Good news indeed!
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posted on
07/12/2008 8:40:50 AM PDT
by
avacado
To: Need4Truth
More likely part of the “I gotta say whatever it takes to get elected” effect.
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posted on
07/12/2008 8:41:25 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(Voting conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
To: Need4Truth; Entrepreneur; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; ...
To: cripplecreek
May I suggest “Drill here, drill now”?
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posted on
07/12/2008 8:44:49 AM PDT
by
fhayek
To: cripplecreek
Go vote for Osama, you might as well.
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posted on
07/12/2008 8:46:04 AM PDT
by
lookout88
(Combat search and rescue officer's dad.)
To: cripplecreek
More likely part of the I gotta say whatever it takes to get elected effect. We should be so lucky. My impression of McCain is that he's completely tone deaf to what conservatives--and in fact the majority of Americans--want.
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posted on
07/12/2008 8:49:09 AM PDT
by
giotto
To: rabscuttle385
McCain flip-flop attempt on climate change and the environment... Quick, let's everybody contact the McCain campaign and ask them to support cap and trade. /sarc
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posted on
07/12/2008 8:53:33 AM PDT
by
Mike Darancette
(Obama's idea of trickle-down economics is to piss on business.)
To: giotto
You are right. He should immediately adopt the platforms and strategies of the looooooosers.
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posted on
07/12/2008 8:56:40 AM PDT
by
MARTIAL MONK
(I'm waiting for the POP!)
To: Need4Truth
“That's good enough for me.”
Well, it's not good enough for me. Someone needs to ask John McCain directly, (not one of his advisers, who he attacks every other day) and get him on the record. I still don't trust him.
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:03:24 AM PDT
by
MrsPatriot
(W...Still the President!)
To: avacado
If I hear more about McCain coming to his senses like this, I will be able to vote for him without holding my nose. He will get my vote in November because the other choice is just too terrible to think about!
To: lookout88
Beats being naive at election time. McCain coupled with a RAT Congress will get you RAT policy. No mention does not mean he still doesn’t support cap and trade.
If McCain can’t beat Obama, he can’t beat anybody. So far, looks like he isn’t trying too hard.
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:06:34 AM PDT
by
indylindy
(I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
To: Need4Truth
Fat chance. McCain’s too pig headed to reverse his stance on anything involving a reach around with his liberal friends just to appease conservatives.
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:10:27 AM PDT
by
TADSLOS
(50 Days and a Wakeup for the GOP to use the Nuclear Option.)
To: indylindy
McCain coupled with a RAT Congress will get you RAT policy. You are correct! Might I also add that McCain coupled with a RAT Congress will get you RAT policy - AND - the Republicans will get the blame for it!
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:10:55 AM PDT
by
alicewonders
(I'm a conservative, and I'm hated by the GOP & the Dems - I must be doing something right!)
To: indylindy; lookout88
"Beats being naive at election time. McCain coupled with a RAT Congress will get you RAT policy..." Insightful observation. Allow me a minute to pick your brain for your insight into this scenario: Obama coupled with a RAT Congress will get you what?
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:11:25 AM PDT
by
avacado
To: indylindy
I am no fan of McCain. There is no naivety in my judgment. If you think a 3rd party will make a statement, I disagree with you. These are poor choices we face. In McCain’s defense, he did not abandon his fellow pow’s in Vietnam. That says a lot to me.
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:12:32 AM PDT
by
lookout88
(Combat search and rescue officer's dad.)
To: Need4Truth
Hey Larry, go to
McCain's web site under the issue of climate change. "John McCain's Cap and Trade Policy
John McCain Proposes A Cap-And-Trade System That Would Set Limits On Greenhouse Gas Emissions While Encouraging The Development Of Low-Cost Compliance Options. A climate cap-and-trade mechanism would set a limit on greenhouse gas emissions and allow entities to buy and sell rights to emit, similar to the successful acid rain trading program of the early 1990s. The key feature of this mechanism is that it allows the market to decide and encourage the lowest-cost compliance options.
How Does A Cap-And-Trade System Work?
A cap-and-trade system harnesses human ingenuity in the pursuit of alternatives to carbon-based fuels. Market participants are allotted total permits equal to the cap on greenhouse gas emissions. If they can invent, improve, or acquire a way to reduce their emissions, they can sell their extra permits for cash. The profit motive will coordinate the efforts of venture capitalists, corporate planners, entrepreneurs, and environmentalists on the common motive of reducing emissions.
Greenhouse Gas Emission Targets And Timetables
2012: Return Emissions To 2005 Levels (18 Percent Above 1990 Levels)
2020: Return Emissions To 1990 Levels (15 Percent Below 2005 Levels)
2030: 22 Percent Below 1990 Levels (34 Percent Below 2005 Levels)
2050: 60 Percent Below 1990 Levels (66 Percent Below 2005 Levels)
The Cap And Trade System Would Allow For The Gradual Reduction Of Emissions.
The cap and trade system would encompass electric power, transportation fuels, commercial business, and industrial business sectors responsible for just below 90 percent of all emissions. Small businesses would be exempt. Initially, participants would be allowed to either make their own GHG reductions or purchase "offsets" financial instruments representing a reduction, avoidance, or sequestration of greenhouse gas emissions practiced by other activities, such as agriculture to cover 100 percent of their required reductions. Offsets would only be available through a program dedicated to ensure that all offset GHG emission reductions are real, measured and verifiable. The fraction of GHG emission reductions permitted via offsets would decline over time.
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:13:37 AM PDT
by
kabar
To: rabscuttle385
“McCain flip-flop attempt on climate change and the environment”
So....now flip/flopping is a good thing? Or is it only a bad thing when a Democrat does it? Many will say; “At least he is flipping the right way” but they neglect (purposefully) to mention a way that this man or ANY flip/flopper can be trusted. But that’s ok, he has that magic “R” after his name, that makes everything better!
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:14:00 AM PDT
by
Grunthor
(Mccain praised pro-illegal protests saying that they could force the laws to be liberalized)
To: indylindy
No mention does not mean he still doesnt support cap and trade. He hasn't mentioned Amnesty lately, either. I'm just sure that means he opposes it! /s
Kudlow is trying really hard to find a favorable flip-flop that just ain't there.
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:14:05 AM PDT
by
calcowgirl
("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
To: avacado
Insightful observation. Allow me a minute to pick your brain for your insight into this scenario: Obama coupled with a RAT Congress will get you what?
People who think this way really lack any type of optimism. It must be depressing to think everything is so gloomy.
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:15:21 AM PDT
by
lookout88
(Combat search and rescue officer's dad.)
To: seekthetruth
“If I hear more about McCain coming to his senses like this, I will be able to vote for him without holding my nose.”
You believe this garbage? Or you WANT to believe it? That McCain has “come to his senses” on this issue.
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:17:22 AM PDT
by
Grunthor
(Mccain praised pro-illegal protests saying that they could force the laws to be liberalized)
To: MrsPatriot
Check out McCain’s website. He is still for a cap and trade system. More propaganda about supposed shifts in McCain’s policies. He is still for amnesty and cap and trade legislation.
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:17:32 AM PDT
by
kabar
To: calcowgirl
Kudlow is trying really hard to find a favorable flip-flop that just ain't there. Yep. Absence of the term Cap and Trade in a white paper does not mean McCain has dropped one of his pandering to the left schemes.
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:18:00 AM PDT
by
TADSLOS
(50 Days and a Wakeup for the GOP to use the Nuclear Option.)
To: Need4Truth
Can anyone really know what McCain would do as President? I don’t believe anything he says.
It seems like McCain would just screw everything up by trying to be on both sides of most issues. The one thing he has going for him:
That Obama would screw everything up by trying to convert this nation into a marxist paradise. He’d play checkers with Ahmadinejad, Raul, and Hugo. And turn his back on patriotic Americans and friendly nations like Colombia.
To: avacado
“Insightful observation. Allow me a minute to pick your brain for your insight into this scenario: Obama coupled with a RAT Congress will get you what?”
Which is why many of us that do not support McCain say, “When these two became the nominees of their party, America lost.” No matter who wins in November, this nation is going to continue to slide further left.
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:19:39 AM PDT
by
Grunthor
(Mccain praised pro-illegal protests saying that they could force the laws to be liberalized)
To: lookout88
The most naive thing a person can do is to allow Obama into the White House because they have “principles.”
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:20:35 AM PDT
by
avacado
To: cripplecreek
At this point, as long as he sticks with it after election, I’m all for it.
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:21:17 AM PDT
by
RockinRight
(I just paid $63 for gas. An icefield in Alaska is NOT the Grand Canyon. F--- the caribou.)
To: avacado
“The most naive thing a person can do is to allow Obama into the White House because they have principles.
After a few more election cycles like this one, principles will no longer be a concern in the Republican Party with one exception, power for powers’ sake.
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:26:14 AM PDT
by
Grunthor
(Mccain praised pro-illegal protests saying that they could force the laws to be liberalized)
To: calcowgirl
That seems to be how people are handling the McCain “thing”.
I know they would hate to admit it....but it is really no different than those that pretend Obama is something other than what he is.
I really believe that until people quit trying to convince themselves that a pig in a poke is a fine racehorce, they will get the government they are unwilling to call for.
If you do not like what is offered, you reject it, and ask that the offer be something you can accept.
I don’t know if you saw the McCain video where he was being asked about birth control and insurance companies, but it was truly the most sad and painful thing I have ever viewed. If that video is used by the RATs, it will not be a good thing. I actually had pity for McCain. Gee whiz.
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:31:45 AM PDT
by
indylindy
(I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
To: avacado
“The most naive thing a person can do is to allow Obama into the White House because they have principles.”
I agree.
But it’s also naive to think that McCain is any more principled that Obama.
Both are mealy mouthed, pandering, political whores.
I cannot stand either of them.
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:36:41 AM PDT
by
EEDUDE
To: indylindy
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:44:53 AM PDT
by
calcowgirl
("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
To: MARTIAL MONK
You are right. He should immediately adopt the platforms and strategies of the looooooosers. So amnesty and opposition to global warming are platforms and strategies of winners?
If I agreed with those policies, I'd be a democrat.
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:47:19 AM PDT
by
calcowgirl
("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
To: lookout88
Have you checked on how J.S. McCain’s record treated families of POWs, how he and John Kerry swept the issue under the rug, how he wanted a reunion with his former captors? It is on record.
To: calcowgirl; indylindy
I just watched the video. Painful! Hey now! Let McCain be McCain. He could have just said "Carly Fiorina doesn't speak for me". It worked so well with Gramm's remark about Americans being whiners.
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:50:19 AM PDT
by
TADSLOS
(50 Days and a Wakeup for the GOP to use the Nuclear Option.)
To: MARTIAL MONK
Correction:
So amnesty and global warming are platforms and strategies of winners?
If I agreed with those policies, I'd be a democrat.
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:50:51 AM PDT
by
calcowgirl
("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
To: calcowgirl
OMG, just awful, he looked clueless and it aged him. OMG, can’t say it enough, awful. Makes me shudder.
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:51:27 AM PDT
by
indylindy
(I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
To: calcowgirl
If I agreed with those policies, I'd be a democrat. You can go with someone as odious as McCain if you just cast your principles aside, provided that you have any. It's easy to do. Sticking to principles takes disciplined effort and courage, which is why RINOS are more inclined to float the current as jellyfish- no effort, no principles needed until they are washed up on the harsh shore of reality and then it's too late.
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:55:25 AM PDT
by
TADSLOS
(50 Days and a Wakeup for the GOP to use the Nuclear Option.)
To: calcowgirl
Duncan Hunter is fixin’ to surge.
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posted on
07/12/2008 9:58:40 AM PDT
by
MARTIAL MONK
(I'm waiting for the POP!)
To: TADSLOS
These same folks called in “winning” when Schwarzenegger was elected.
Battered Republican Syndrome?
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posted on
07/12/2008 10:02:58 AM PDT
by
calcowgirl
("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
To: Need4Truth
It’s a special effect. It’ll be bock.
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posted on
07/12/2008 10:03:28 AM PDT
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
To: calcowgirl
Battered Republican Syndrome?"He may be bad and leaves me bruised and broken, but he's all I have and Obama will kill me" (whimper). It's a consistent McCain supporter Drama Queen mantra.
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posted on
07/12/2008 10:10:12 AM PDT
by
TADSLOS
(50 Days and a Wakeup for the GOP to use the Nuclear Option.)
To: Need4Truth
This is the only thing I have read that has had any impact on my opposition to John McCain. I know I will not vote for B. Hussein Obama, and I have not made up my mind about voting for John McCain; but this from Thomas Sowell deserves serious thought:
“Nor were elections set up in order to enable voters to vent their emotions or indulge their fantasies.
Voting is a right but it is also a duty a duty not just to show up on election day, but a duty to give serious thought to the alternatives on the table and what those alternatives mean for the future of the nation.”
Read the whole thing:
http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell070808.php3
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posted on
07/12/2008 10:32:49 AM PDT
by
MrsPatriot
(W...Still the President!)
To: TADSLOS
Well, my FRiend, that is one video that you would rather McCain not be McCain. LOL
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posted on
07/12/2008 10:41:00 AM PDT
by
indylindy
(I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
To: indylindy
Well, my FRiend, that is one video that you would rather McCain not be McCain. Nope. People need to see the unvarnished truth rather than kneejerk like a liberal and vote for a liberal merely on the prospect of fear from the other liberal winning- unless you're insane, then it makes perfect sense, I guess.
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posted on
07/12/2008 10:47:28 AM PDT
by
TADSLOS
(50 Days and a Wakeup for the GOP to use the Nuclear Option.)
To: avacado
True Conservatives believe that principles aren't something akin to a "living and breathing" bastardization of the Constitution.
I suggest you read the statement of this site's founder.
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posted on
07/12/2008 10:48:44 AM PDT
by
JoJo Gunn
(The McCainiac's creed: Death to America by a thousand cuts)
To: Need4Truth
Freepers: Go to the website and read the original post, then go to the home page and you will find a second half to this post that one of McLame’s staffers responded to the post DENYING that the candidate has abandoned C&T... Of course!
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posted on
07/12/2008 10:49:34 AM PDT
by
Pharmer
(How am I supposed to rule the world when I surrounded by freakin liberal idiots!)
To: TADSLOS
That piece of artwork is a perfect impression of my feelings toward politics this election.
No way out.
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posted on
07/12/2008 10:49:49 AM PDT
by
indylindy
(I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
To: kabar
Oh brother. It is still there and it wasn’t that hard to find, was it?
Cap and trade is just a non-productive way to take money from the people. The Europeans are proving that right now.
To: Need4Truth
Freepers: Go to the website and read the original post, then go to the home page and you will find a second half to this post that one of McLame’s staffers responded to the post DENYING that the candidate has abandoned C&T... Of course!
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posted on
07/12/2008 10:59:36 AM PDT
by
Pharmer
(How am I supposed to rule the world when I surrounded by freakin liberal idiots!)
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