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Tax by another name (More Socialism)
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | July 12, 2008 | Editorial

Posted on 07/12/2008 9:05:19 AM PDT by Graybeard58

If the government takes money from you and gives it to somebody else, that's known as a "tax." But is it still a tax when the government delegates a third party to take your money and then give it to whomever the government designates? A whole lot of people in Connecticut are trying to pretend that it isn't.

Operation Fuel is proposing that seniors and low-income residents be given a mandatory discount on energy costs. Under the plan, those who qualify would pay a fixed percentage of their total income.

Utilities, such as electricity providers, and suppliers, such as heating-oil companies would be allowed to raise everybody else's rates to make up the difference. Patricia Wrice, executive director of the Bloomfield-based group, says the beauty of the plan is the state retains deniability: "It wouldn't be funded through General Fund money. The burden would be across the board."

Trouble is, the money would come from the same limited source as tax revenues: The pockets of people not lucky enough to be part whichever constituencies qualify for the state-mandated benefit.

The idea of providing a benefit without having to dirty their hands apparently appeals to some awmakers. Sen. John Fonfara, D-Hartford, offered a version of the plan during the last legislative session, but the proposal never came to a vote. He said the plan would be reintroduced in January.

Backers say the plan would cost the average customer only $11. Trouble is, no matter how you disguise it, it's a tax. And the one thing that's certain about taxes is that sooner or later they go up.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: govwatch; taxes
From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.
1 posted on 07/12/2008 9:05:19 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: KosmicKitty; ballplayer; warsaw44; Grizzled Bear; Tunehead54; G.Love; nothingnew; dcwusmc; ...

Ping to a Republican-American Editorial.

If you want on or off this list, let me know.


2 posted on 07/12/2008 9:06:42 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58
...those who qualify would pay a fixed percentage of their total income.

Just like Section Eight housing. Next will be medicines and food.

3 posted on 07/12/2008 9:07:31 AM PDT by realdifferent1 ( I'll think of something...)
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To: Graybeard58

Many seniors have low incomes but high wealth.

If their home is paid for their total housing costs are lower than most of the people who will be forced to subsidize them.

Politicians buying votes with other people’s money, nothing more.


4 posted on 07/12/2008 9:13:05 AM PDT by afortiori
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To: Graybeard58

RANT ON:

This is exactly why my hobby is thwarting taxes at every legal turn.

I HATE this redistribution of wealth. That’s really all it is! And a lot of that “wealth” is re-distributed to people that don’t need it in the first place.

I love my family DEARLY, but it p*sses me off that my husband and I have FIVE parents (3 bio, 2 steps still living) who are totally riding the Gravy Train...on OUR backs. They all have uber-cheap healthcare (whereas husband and I pay for our own, and it ain’t cheap!) and between them they are drawing about $9,000.00 cash out of the kitty each and every month and will do so until the day they die. Multiply that by the increasing number of up-and-coming retiring Boomers and pretty soon you’re talking about some REAL money here!

And don’t get me started on how they play every store in the area on “Senior Day” and whine about the cost of living. *Rolleyes* A discount just for LIVING to a specific age? Get real.

Luckily, they were all hard-working when they were our age (late 40’s) and have planned well for their future needs, as well as ours, but still. Will we live long enough to enjoy it? Or will we stroke out by age 62 while we’re still working as greeters at Wal-Mart to support them while they’re in their 90’s and hanging on ‘til the bitter end? ;)

(Aside: Two years of nursing home care for Grandma, when she had dementia so bad that we couldn’t care for her ourselves anymore, was $82,000.00!!)

All I can do is to keep my taxes as low as legally possible and invest wisely for the future...and bite my tongue from time to time over some of the money-economy-tax-related discussions I have with ‘my elders.’ ;)

RANT OFF!


5 posted on 07/12/2008 9:48:03 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Another wonderful scheme of the marxist/socialist left. We can all assume who’s homes will now convert the electric bill in granny’s name, even if she’s pushing up daisies.


6 posted on 07/12/2008 11:07:22 AM PDT by yorkie01
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

You work as a greeter at Wal-Mart?


7 posted on 07/12/2008 11:11:39 AM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: Graybeard58

I think its time to dust off the treason paperwork.


8 posted on 07/12/2008 11:29:36 AM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption hasn’t changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: Graybeard58

I don’t have any answers, do have an experiance to relate...last week at the doctor’s office the nurse told me of a patient who quit taking her heart medicine last winter and had to be rushed to the hospital....she was saved by heroic and expensive measures...when asked why she quit taking her heart meds she said “it was either buy medicine or heating oil; and without the oil I’d freeze to death”....so as Tony Soprano would say “whadda you gonna do?”


9 posted on 07/12/2008 11:36:29 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: Graybeard58
If the utilities have to provide service at fixed rates to seniors and the disabled, every one else will have to pay more. If energy wasn't finite, then every one could pay more or less the same rate. Not in this world.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

10 posted on 07/12/2008 1:03:59 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: 1FreeAmerican

LOL! No. I manage a Garden Center. I was just making an observation that I’ll have to work some chit-job to support my parents’ more-than-adequate lifestyles thanks to Social Security, versus being able to enjoy my OWN retirement when I’ve earned it.

There most likely won’t be any free cash for my generation, and at the rate the work force is dropping, there won’t be anyone coming up behind me to pay for MY lifestyle in my Golden Years, either.


11 posted on 07/12/2008 2:01:14 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Graybeard58
Local radio talk show host Brad Davis(WDRC-AM 1360), who helped start Operation fuel, vehemently defended the mandatory program on his radio show yesterday morning and this morning. He kept demanding people come up with a better solution to which many callers, including myself, called in and in no uncertain terms told him it was wrong to have a mandatory program and provided him with better ideas all of which are voluntary.
12 posted on 07/12/2008 6:14:06 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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