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Princeton is accused of anti-Asian biases
star ledger ^ | 07.13.08 | Ana M. Alaya

Posted on 07/13/2008 6:33:23 PM PDT by Coleus

For decades, critics of affirmative action have contended elite colleges, in their zeal to form racially diverse student bodies, have discriminated against top white applicants. In a twist on that long-running feud, federal authorities are investigating an allegation that Princeton University discriminates against Asian-American applicants by accepting black and Hispanic students with lower entrance scores.

At the heart of both arguments lies the question of whether and how colleges should consider race when choosing a class. The Supreme Court has ruled race can be a factor in the process, though racial quotas have long been declared unconstitutional. Critics say admission quotas remain a dirty little secret in academia.

"There is almost no other area that colleges consistently lie about," said Russell Nieli, a professor in Princeton's department of politics, who recently published an essay titled "Is there an Asian Ceiling?" Princeton, for its part, denies using quotas. The university declined, however, to release admissions data broken down by race and test scores, spokeswoman Cass Cliatt said, "because we don't want anyone to make the mistake that we make admissions decisions by category."

The federal review at Princeton -- which adamantly denies it discriminates against Asians -- was sparked by a complaint filed in 2006 by Livingston High School graduate and Asian immigrant Jian Li. He claims he was rejected by Princeton and other elite universities despite graduating in the top 1 percent of his high school class, earning various honors outside the classroom and nailing perfect SAT scores. Nieli said Li's complaint, because it was made by an Asian-American, may carry more weight with proponents of racial preferences.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: academia; affirmativeaction; affirmativeadvantage; asians; blacks; discrimination; hispanics; minorities; princeton; quotas; scotus

1 posted on 07/13/2008 6:33:23 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus
The Libtard majority that really runs the USSC has had several opportunities to express its disgust with Asians and has done so vigorously.

This kid can win a case if McCain wins and actually nominatesa real conservative. Otherwise, with Obama in the saddle it's going to be a return to the Oriental Exclusion Act days.

2 posted on 07/13/2008 6:36:12 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: Coleus
Not surprising. Americans of Asian heritage are generally excluded from "minority" status due to their work ethic, family-oriented attitudes, ability to integrate, and their resulting economic success.
3 posted on 07/13/2008 6:36:58 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Off balance sheet liabilities...they're not just for Enron anymore!)
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To: rabscuttle385
Unpossible!
4 posted on 07/13/2008 6:50:08 PM PDT by xDGx
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To: Coleus

I don’t think it is anti-Asian bias. It is anti anyone not from an “underrepresented (and therefore oppressed) minority.”


5 posted on 07/13/2008 6:53:16 PM PDT by freespirited (Never vote for a man who gets his nails done.)
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To: Coleus

I don’t think it is anti-Asian bias. It is anti anyone not from an “underrepresented (and therefore oppressed) minority.”


6 posted on 07/13/2008 6:53:16 PM PDT by freespirited (Never vote for a man who gets his nails done.)
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To: Coleus

What can we do to get more Asians admitted to the US?


7 posted on 07/13/2008 6:59:07 PM PDT by vanishing liberty
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To: Coleus

Well Asians have been to successful.

We would feel sorry for them, but they’re not in the right PC demographic.


8 posted on 07/13/2008 7:19:35 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: vanishing liberty

I’d trade most of our current wave of “immigrants” for more asian immigrants.


9 posted on 07/13/2008 7:43:55 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: DemonDeac

Funny, those from Mexico originally desceded from Asian tribes thousands of years ago.

I guess they had different teachers in K-12.


10 posted on 07/13/2008 7:51:51 PM PDT by wac3rd (LIBS GONE WILD)
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To: wac3rd

I wonder what Asian immigrants think of being told to learn Spanish.


11 posted on 07/13/2008 8:10:51 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: freespirited
I don’t think it is anti-Asian bias. It is anti anyone not from an “underrepresented (and therefore oppressed) minority.”

I suspect that it is a reverse quota against Asians. Proposition 209 in California was sparked by a reverse quota against Asians. The administrators at Princeton probably do not want to have too many Asians because it may reduce admissions of other groups. There is probably a limit on white applicants also but the thresholds for white applicants is lower than Asian applicants.

I have not met a university administrator who is opposed to racial quotas. You cannot become a university administrator unless you bow at the alter of political correctness and racial preferences. Universities spend huge sums on racial preferences. Universities compete on the basis of the amounts spent on racial preferences.

To indicate the depth of political correctness at major universities, I had an unpleasant encounter at a faculty meeting with a university provost several years ago. The provost had just been hired. This meeting was an introduction to the business school faculty and staff. He opened the meeting with a statement like "I feel your pain." He repeated this line several times for emphasis. I had no idea to what pain he referred. Then he clarified his remark. He was apologizing to the black staff members because the business school did not have a black faculty member. Nevermind that we had a good representation of other groups (Hispanic, Asians, women, homosexuals, child molesters, ...). He was basically calling us bigots because we had not hired unqualified faculty. I think that he is a first class race baiter and bigot. He has moved to even greener pastures probably with an even more entrenched attitude about social engineering and racial preferences.

12 posted on 07/13/2008 8:40:45 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: Coleus

Didn’t you get the memo? You CAN be discriminated against as long as there’s no obvious detriment as a whole of that discrimination, and as long as you don’t have a truckload of special interest groups screaming in the faces of politicians and media about your discrimination.


13 posted on 07/13/2008 8:51:35 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Lizavetta
Didn’t you get the memo? You CAN be discriminated against as long as there’s no obvious detriment as a whole of that discrimination, and as long as you don’t have a truckload of special interest groups screaming in the faces of politicians and media about your discrimination.

Actually it's simpler than that. Asian kids are at least as successful as white kids, so the PC crowd says they're impossible to discriminate against. Good parents, good culture wins out over crappy public schools every time, no matter what race or ethnicity you're talking about. The Asians, even those who have only been in this country a few years, prove this all the time. Just look around a bit, and meet their kids.

14 posted on 07/13/2008 9:53:30 PM PDT by mavfin (Personal freedom, personal responsibility)
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To: mavfin

[Actually it’s simpler than that. Asian kids are at least as successful as white kids, so the PC crowd says they’re impossible to discriminate against.]

And you can boil it down to something still more basic. It’s about power. Kids with ability and drive are not dependent on, and probably have no respect for, some administrator who has a PhD in Political Correctness. (What kind of a numbnutz is going to devote his life to that?). So a minority kid with straight A’s who breaks the scale on the SAT’s “doesn’t deserve” to be a victim. He is an anathema to a bureaucrat who’s paycheck depends on his righting the “injustices” of “flawed” society.


15 posted on 07/13/2008 10:25:45 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: xDGx

Her hair looks like Mickey Mouse ears!


16 posted on 07/14/2008 1:19:07 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Coleus

The scumbag liberals dig themselves these holes, let the scumbag liberals dig their own way out. Meanwhile, cross Princeton off any list of possible colleges for your kids.


17 posted on 07/14/2008 1:26:08 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: xDGx

I hear Michelle was a big fan of Malcolm the Tenth.


18 posted on 07/14/2008 1:27:59 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: muawiyah
This kid can win a case if McCain wins and actually nominates a real conservative.

If that don't work, then just show 'em this. :-P


19 posted on 07/14/2008 5:26:51 AM PDT by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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To: rabscuttle385
The law, however, identifies an Asian-Pacific American category. It excludes persons of Thai ancestry though.

You have to remember that Thailand is the only Asian country not conquered by and overrun by Europeans or Americans, so they're "special".

20 posted on 07/14/2008 5:37:46 AM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: Coleus

I wonder if a child is multi-racial, both white and Asian, what box they should check on an application to get the most benefit.


21 posted on 07/14/2008 6:00:06 AM PDT by chickpundit
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To: rabscuttle385

Not to mention their self discipline and respect for the rule of law.


22 posted on 07/16/2008 6:36:28 AM PDT by Niuhuru (Don't burn a bra, burn a feminist!)
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