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Reid: No drilling proposals in debate over oil speculation
The Hill ^ | 07/14/08 | Manu Raju

Posted on 07/14/2008 1:40:45 PM PDT by radar101

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said Monday that he would not allow a vote on an amendment giving states new authority to seek oil off their coasts when he brings a Democratic energy bill to the floor later this month.

Reid criticized President Bush’s announcement earlier in the day to rescind a longstanding executive order banning offshore oil drilling, saying it was a gift to the oil companies that are not exploring for oil in 68 millions of acres available to them.

Republicans are now pressuring Democrats to rescind a congressional moratorium prohibiting the practices and give states the option to decide whether to allow drilling off their coasts.

However, Senate Democrats rejected those calls on Monday.

“We want oil and gas companies to drill on the leases they’ve been given,” Reid said.

He added that oil companies should report to Congress their activities on their leased land and said Congress will invest in renewable energy by pushing through a stalled package of expiring tax incentives.

Democrats blame market speculators on oil industry futures for playing a role in propping up energy prices, and are drafting a bill targeting the practice, which will be unveiled Wednesday. When the Senate votes on that bill, as soon as this month, Reid said he would not allow amendments dealing with oil drilling, which the Republicans will almost certainly seek.

"I said and was very clear that we need to focus on issues of specific matters," Reid said.

The reaction puts Democrats in line with their presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.), who opposes lifting the offshore-drilling ban. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) reversed his longstanding support for the ban, and has said that boosting supplies will help bring down soaring gas prices.

"It would merely prolong the failed energy policies we have seen from Washington for 30 years," Obama spokesman Bill Burton said Monday of Bush's decision.

Republicans support targeting speculators as well, but have called for a broader energy package that would also boost domestic production.

"The key to bringing down record-high gas prices is to find more American energy, as well as use less," Sen. Lamar Alexander (Tenn.), GOP conference chairman, said.

"After today’s announcement by the president, the only hurdle left to beginning offshore exploration is congressional action, and it’s time for the Democratic leadership to listen to the millions of Americans who are demanding we begin today."

Sen. Pete Domenici (R-N.M.) called Reid a "chicken" for not allowing votes on oil drilling.

"Does it seem to you like it does to me like Harry Reid is either scared chicken to have a vote, or has decided that he's going to dictate to the United States Senate?" the ranking Republican on the Energy and Natural Resources Committee said, turning to Alexander at a GOP press conference. "I don't know if you'll use the word 'chicken,' but I will because that's what he's saying: He's saying, 'I'm frightened by the idea that we're going to actually have a vote on a new plan for this huge, huge, reserve of gas and oil that belongs to none other than the people of the United States.' "

Domenici said Congress would be forced to revisit the issue during debate over the interior appropriations bill, which usually includes the congressional moratorium on offshore drilling.

Republicans stopped short of saying they would filibuster the oil-speculation bill, but suggested they would protest any efforts to limit amendments. They plan to discuss strategy at their weekly Tuesday policy lunch.

"Any serious proposal to deal with $4 gasoline prices has to include finding more American energy, as well as using less," Alexander said. "Sen. Reid is not willing to do that."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: 110th; congress; drilling; energy; obstructionistdems; ocs; offshoredrilling; oil; reid; ussenate
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1 posted on 07/14/2008 1:40:46 PM PDT by radar101
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To: radar101

Introduce 100 drilling amendments. Make Reid turn down every one of them.


2 posted on 07/14/2008 1:41:48 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: radar101

Expect the GOP to NOT use this as a serious campaign issue.


3 posted on 07/14/2008 1:42:39 PM PDT by lormand ("The Planet is fine, the people are $%#ed up" - George Carlin)
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To: radar101
drill on the leases they’ve been given

Purchased, not given.

4 posted on 07/14/2008 1:43:51 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: radar101
“We want oil and gas companies to drill on the leases they’ve been given,” Reid said.

Does no good to drill if there ain't any oil there Harry.

5 posted on 07/14/2008 1:45:50 PM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: RightWhale

This claim is so phony.


6 posted on 07/14/2008 1:46:10 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
NOW !! At last we have some separation between the parties
7 posted on 07/14/2008 1:48:37 PM PDT by reefdiver (Had Enough? Drill 4 OIL)
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To: RightWhale
Purchased, not given.

Has someone published a good article about how lame this particular talking point really is? i.e. something that actually describes the exploration leases in question, how much has been explored, and how much has been found? And what is really the potential for recoverable oil/gas?

I've read that at least one of these leases has a potential oil deposit worth recovering, but they can't get a drilling permit. Can someone point me to that, too?

8 posted on 07/14/2008 1:48:38 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.)
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To: radar101

WALKING AND FREEZING ‘O8 - The Democratic Party


9 posted on 07/14/2008 1:48:40 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

These Dem statements are popular on the Internet where they can be heard or read over and over for amusement. Nobody believes them anymore and they get more ridiculous every day.


10 posted on 07/14/2008 1:50:42 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: reefdiver
NOW !! At last we have some separation between the parties

At least until McCain weighs in.

11 posted on 07/14/2008 1:51:57 PM PDT by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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To: radar101

“He added that oil companies should report to Congress their activities on their leased land and said Congress will invest in renewable energy by pushing through a stalled package of expiring tax incentives.”

Spoken like a true cami. Traitorous bastard.


12 posted on 07/14/2008 1:53:03 PM PDT by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: radar101
"Does it seem to you like it does to me like Harry Reid is either scared chicken to have a vote, or has decided that he's going to dictate to the United States Senate?" the ranking Republican on the Energy and Natural Resources Committee said, turning to Alexander at a GOP press conference. "I don't know if you'll use the word 'chicken,' but I will because that's what he's saying: He's saying, 'I'm frightened by the idea that we're going to actually have a vote on a new plan for this huge, huge, reserve of gas and oil that belongs to none other than the people of the United States.'

Keep yelling it from the rafters. IT'S OUR OIL. LET US HAVE IT!!!!

13 posted on 07/14/2008 1:53:14 PM PDT by keepitreal ("I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message. . . until I don't.")
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To: radar101

14 posted on 07/14/2008 1:54:33 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: lormand
Expect the GOP to NOT use this as a serious campaign issue.

The Whigs disappeared when they failed to take a stand on an critical national issue. If the GOP passes on this, they need to follow the Whigs.

15 posted on 07/14/2008 1:55:05 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Whale oil: the renewable biofuel for the 21st century.)
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To: radar101
“We want oil and gas companies to drill on the leases they’ve been given,” Reid said.

What a maroon! I am sure they would be drilling on the leased areas if these areas held enough oil to be worth the investment.
16 posted on 07/14/2008 1:55:05 PM PDT by Kerretarded (Ownership, Individuality, Freedom, Responsibility - The Backbone of Conservatism - falconparty.com)
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To: radar101

BRING BACK DUELING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


17 posted on 07/14/2008 1:55:41 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: Domandred; All
“We want oil and gas companies to drill on the leases they’ve been given,” Reid said.
Does no good to drill if there ain't any oil there Harry.

Exactly these areas are not very promising for oil. Otherwise they (oil companies) would be drilling like crazy at $140/Barrel. This lunatic Reid is going to kill us all.

18 posted on 07/14/2008 1:55:48 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: radar101
Special Note to Dingy Harry:

These leases are not "given" as you so indelicately put it (as though they belong to YOU or worse yet to the Gubmint, you jerk).

They are PURCHASED from the land owners, or even from Gubmint for Gubmint land (by the way, if the Gubmint OWNS the land, doesn't that mean "We the People" own that land so maybe WE want to sell it) you idiot!

Respectfully,

A US Citizen

19 posted on 07/14/2008 1:56:38 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: radar101

“We want oil and gas companies to drill on the leases they’ve been given,” Reid said.

I keep seeing this argument. What’s the basis of it, and what has the oil companies’ response been? Anybody? Buehler?


20 posted on 07/14/2008 1:58:53 PM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: zerosix

Is there any definitive information on what has or has not been done with the current leases?


21 posted on 07/14/2008 1:59:54 PM PDT by DonaldC
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To: radar101
We want oil and gas companies to drill on the leases they’ve been given,” Reid said.

Does anyone know exactly how these resource leases on government lands work?

How much does the initial lease cost (I doubt they are "given")? Is there an annual fee? Can they be returned if found to be unproductive or does the oil compnay have them for X number of years based on the original contract? Can they be extended past the original term?

From what I understand, the oil company will get the original lease based on an educated guess of where there might be oil. They then do more detailed geological studies, then seismic soundings, then test wells, then more test wells to determine the extent of a field, then production wells. If at any of those steps it looks like it isn't worth the expense of continuing the oil company will give up on it. Also, even if it looks good, it might take years to do each step, during which time Congress will bawl that the leased land isn't being used. Am I missing anything?

22 posted on 07/14/2008 2:03:05 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Whale oil: the renewable biofuel for the 21st century.)
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To: radar101

Sen. Pete Domenici (R-N.M.) called Reid a “chicken” for not allowing votes on oil drilling.

“Does it seem to you like it does to me like Harry Reid is either scared chicken to have a vote, or has decided that he’s going to dictate to the United States Senate?” the ranking Republican on the Energy and Natural Resources Committee said, turning to Alexander at a GOP press conference. “I don’t know if you’ll use the word ‘chicken,’ but I will because that’s what he’s saying: He’s saying, ‘I’m frightened by the idea that we’re going to actually have a vote on a new plan for this huge, huge, reserve of gas and oil that belongs to none other than the people of the United States.’ “

‘Bout damn time we started some honest name-callin’! And I love that he turned to the other Pubbie and said, “Hey, you don’t have to get on this train, but I’m callin’ a spade a spade”!


23 posted on 07/14/2008 2:03:14 PM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: ladtx

My guess is that his view will change now that the American economy and wallets are being affected to this degree.

He’d be an idiot not to...oh oh..never mind.


24 posted on 07/14/2008 2:05:16 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: DonaldC

“Idle” lease claims based on lack of understanding: Cavaney
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2035201/posts

Access critical to addressing U.S. energy challenges: Cavaney
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2037301/posts


25 posted on 07/14/2008 2:05:23 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: jagusafr

“Idle” lease claims based on lack of understanding: Cavaney
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2035201/posts

Access critical to addressing U.S. energy challenges: Cavaney
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2037301/posts


26 posted on 07/14/2008 2:05:57 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: RetSignman

He and his fellow Dems are in “The Dead Zone”, without even Verizon coverage.


27 posted on 07/14/2008 2:07:39 PM PDT by bestintxas
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To: thackney

Thanks for the links!


28 posted on 07/14/2008 2:09:08 PM PDT by DonaldC
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To: KarlInOhio
Engaging in fierce political debate about a critical issue is....well it is uncivilized.

/new tone

29 posted on 07/14/2008 2:09:35 PM PDT by lormand ("The Planet is fine, the people are $%#ed up" - George Carlin)
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To: zerosix
They are PURCHASED from the land owners, or even from Gubmint for Gubmint land (by the way, if the Gubmint OWNS the land, doesn't that mean "We the People" own that land so maybe WE want to sell it) you idiot!

It is my understanding that the Federal Government owns none of the land in question, the states do. The states have not signed the deeds over to the Federal Government.

Another scam from the government.

30 posted on 07/14/2008 2:10:03 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: radar101

"9% Harry"

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31 posted on 07/14/2008 2:10:33 PM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: TommyDale

Villian “Oil-Can Harry”


32 posted on 07/14/2008 2:14:22 PM PDT by Rodm (Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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To: Kerretarded

SPREAD THE WORD
TUESDAY JULY 15TH CONTACT YOUR CONGRESS
TELL YOUR FRIENDS, FAMILY, NEIGHBORS AND COWORKERS

FLOOD CONGRESS TUESDAY JULY 15TH
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
IF ANY OF THEM VALUE THEIR JOB, I’M SURE THEY WILL SHIFT THEIR POSITION!!!

DRILL HERE - DRILL NOW!!


33 posted on 07/14/2008 2:14:38 PM PDT by mouse1
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To: radar101
“We want oil and gas companies to drill on the leases they’ve been given,” Reid said

How about letting them drill where there's still oil?

How about telling us why you wont let it come to a vote??? Let our reps do what we sent them to DC to do - represent us, which they do by voting.

When were you elected King that YOU and YOU alone decide what can even be brought to a vote?

And can someone explain to me where he and his Komrad, pelosi, get to keep votes they don't want passed from coming to the floor...and why that isn't tantamount to a dictatorship?

If one party can control which bills even get voted on, where is the democracy? Is that not a dictatorship?

Time to fire off another round of DRILL NOW - DRILL WHERE THE OIL IS.

They're nervous with the new low approval rate of 9%. Let's make it ZERO.

It's time to compose a list of every senator/congresscritter that apposes drilling and target them personally - especially those up for reelection.

We have a window of opportunity NOW, folks. Let's not let is slip past us.

34 posted on 07/14/2008 2:15:05 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: radar101
"... he would not allow a vote on an amendment giving states new authority to seek oil off their coasts ..."

I like how Congress has decided the States have no say on what they do off their own shores.

Were I a governor I would immediately open up States lands for drilling and keep the revenue and royalties ... withholding any and amounts from the Feds even when Congress tells me they have a 'legal' right to it'.

The States have a Constitutional Right to manage their own affairs without Federal interference ... it's called State's Rights. It's time they took back those powers they haven't exercised in a while and put Congress on notice ... no more usurping our rights.
35 posted on 07/14/2008 2:16:05 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: K-oneTexas

We have a winner here. We need to run with it. Harass your CongressCritter. Call tomorrow and melt down their lines.
Force them to take a vote..up or down. Drill offshore, Drill ANWR and drill the Grand Canyon..just to spite McCain.


36 posted on 07/14/2008 2:18:23 PM PDT by Oldexpat (Drill Here, Drill There..we must drill everywhere.)
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To: ladtx
At least until McCain weighs in.

That's the spirit - throw sand in the crankcase.

Ever think a battle is easier won by shooting at the enemy - we don't need friendly fire on this issue.


37 posted on 07/14/2008 2:18:47 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: radar101

YThis is what must be used against everyDemoSocialist economis enslaver running for election or re-election this year. Ads should be run agaist each and every one of them, and the Dims as a whole, about how they are digging their nails into the throats of the American people, with their cold blooded, evil attempts to gain control. Control to te4ll you how you can live, what you can say, what you can do. What you can think, and how successful you are allowed to be.

Meet your new enslavers....Same as your old enslavers.

Face it! Pelosi and Reid don’t give a damn about you, and whether you live or not...as long as they are in control of you if you *do* manage to “Endeavor to Persevere”.


38 posted on 07/14/2008 2:18:54 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand)
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To: radar101
Sen. Pete Domenici (R-N.M.) called Reid a "chicken" for not allowing votes on oil drilling.

Good for Pete. Sadly, he is retiring and will likely be replaced with a Democrat. Does the name Udall mean anything to anyone? 'Nuff said.

39 posted on 07/14/2008 2:22:23 PM PDT by CedarDave ("Not Evil, Just Wrong - The True Cost of Global Warming Hysteria" http://noteviljustwrong.com/)
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To: radar101

The starving people of the world don’t need more food, they just need to take smaller bites. :)


40 posted on 07/14/2008 2:25:56 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: jagusafr
“And what did we see off into the distance... Yes, it was pea size but still was distinctly discernible as a small set of gonads...
41 posted on 07/14/2008 2:26:58 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: radar101

Why make oil companies spend time and money looking for oil when we know right where it is? That is just going to prolong the gas to our vehicles and increase the cost once it gets there.


42 posted on 07/14/2008 2:27:03 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: jagusafr

Pete is retiring because of an incurable brain disease similar to Alzheimer’s. He has six-month’s left in his term and is becoming very feisty over this issue. See my post above about his likely replacement.


43 posted on 07/14/2008 2:27:44 PM PDT by CedarDave ("Not Evil, Just Wrong - The True Cost of Global Warming Hysteria" http://noteviljustwrong.com/)
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To: radar101

It’s like satire... but it isn’t...


44 posted on 07/14/2008 2:35:38 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: radar101

The Democrats don’t represent the American people. They represent the environmental lobby. Vote accordingly. They should be kicked out of office.


45 posted on 07/14/2008 3:07:44 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“This claim is so phony.”

But then, so is Reid.


46 posted on 07/14/2008 3:08:46 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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To: radar101

Reid is just a plug in the colon of life.
He would turn America into a third world nation.


47 posted on 07/14/2008 3:19:05 PM PDT by chatham
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To: K-oneTexas

Right on!


48 posted on 07/14/2008 3:32:20 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: DonaldC
Yes there are. At least some of the leaseholders (oil companies) have stated that all of their original startup dollars have been taken care of and monies made and to continue to drill would be for the "more expensive" crude that would NOT make pumping profitable.

One assumes that some crude is easier to get and therefore more profitable, while later on, crude becomes more and more expensive to get out of the ground.

Hope these answers are what you are looking for.

49 posted on 07/14/2008 3:42:40 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: radar101

Idiots! Complete morons! If there was oil there worth exploiting, they would be doing so. Yeah Harry, the eeeeeevil oil companies are sitting on top of so much oil, they just don’t want to produce it because hey they aren’t in it for the profits.


50 posted on 07/14/2008 5:34:11 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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