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Remarks by John McCain at the 2008 National Council of La Raza Convention (full text)
JohnMcCain.com ^ | July 14, 2008 | John McCain

Posted on 07/14/2008 3:54:11 PM PDT by calcowgirl

July 14, 2008

ARLINGTON, VA -- U.S. Senator John McCain will deliver the following remarks as prepared for delivery to the 2008 National Council of La Raza Convention in San Diego, CA, today at 12:45 p.m. PT (3:45 p.m. ET):

Thank you, Jane, for that kind introduction. Thank you, also to the leadership of the National Council of La Raza, and its board of directors. I'm very pleased to be with you again to discuss some of the issues in this campaign that most concern you. As you know, this isn't my first address to La Raza. I'm proud to have worked hard over the years with many friends here and elsewhere to make sure Americans of Hispanic heritage are appreciated for their contributions to the prosperity, security and culture of the United States, and to improve opportunities for your continued success, not for your sake alone but for the benefit of the entire nation. I also want to thank La Raza's former CEO, Raul Yzaguirre, for being here today, and for the privilege of over twenty years of friendship and counsel he has so generously given me. And to my fellow Arizonans here today, who have given me the great honor of serving you in the United States Senate, thank you from the bottom of my heart. With your votes, advice and encouragement you have helped me to be a better public servant and a better American, and I am in your debt.

There are several issues I want to discuss today, but let me begin with the one that concerns all Americans the most -- our economy. Over 400,000 people have lost their jobs since December, and the rate of new job creation has fallen sharply. Americans are worried about the security of their current job, and they're worried that they, their kids and their neighbors may not find good jobs and new opportunities in the future. To make matters worse, gas is over $4 a gallon and the price of oil has nearly doubled in the last year. The cost of everything from energy to food is rising.

I have a plan to grow the economy, create more and better jobs, and get America moving again. I have a plan to reform government, achieve energy security, and ensure that healthcare and a quality education are affordable and available for all. I believe the role of government is to unleash the creativity, ingenuity and hard work of the American people, and make it easier to create jobs.

At its core, the economy isn't the sum of an array of bewildering statistics. It's about where Americans work, how they live, how they pay their bills today and save for tomorrow. It's about small businesses opening their doors, hiring employees and growing. It's about giving workers the education and training to find a good job and prosper in it. It's about the aspirations of the American people to build a better life for their families; dreams that begin with a job.

So how are we going to create good jobs? Let's start with small businesses, which create the majority of all jobs. A recent report says small businesses have created 233,000 jobs so far this year while other sectors are losing jobs. Small businesses are the job engine of America, and I will make it easier for them to grow and create more jobs. There are two million Latino owned businesses in America, many of them started by Latinas. The first consideration we should have when debating tax policy is how we can help those companies grow and increase the prosperity of the millions of American families whose economic security depends on their success.

It is a terrible mistake to raise taxes during an economic downturn. Increasing the tax burden on Americans impedes job growth, discourages innovation and makes us less competitive. The many small business owners who pay individual tax rates would take strong exception to the idea that keeping them low helps no one but the wealthiest Americans. Taking more money from small businesses deprives them of the capital they need to invest and grow and hire. Jobs are the most important thing our economy creates. When you raise taxes in a bad economy you eliminate jobs. I'm not going to let that happen, I will keep taxes low and cut them where I can. For those of you with children, I will double the child deduction from $3500 to $7000 for every dependent, in every family in America. I will reduce the estate tax to fifteen percent, so parents who have spent long years working hard to build a business, and provide a decent living to t heir employees, can leave the product of a lifetime of labor and love to their children.

La Raza runs one of the largest housing counseling programs in the country that has helped tens of thousands of Latinos become homeowners with secure mortgages. But millions of Americans have been hurt by the mortgage crisis and falling home values, and many in the Hispanic community have been especially hard hit. I want to help people who genuinely need assistance in these tough times, not speculators and lenders who contributed to this mess and didn't follow the basics of good business practice. I am committed to making sure families who want to hold onto their home have a chance to do so. My HOME plan allows families who need help to apply -- either at their local Post Office or online -- for a new, guaranteed, fixed-rate, 30-year mortgage that will allow them to remain in their home, and raise their family with dignity.

To get our economy on track again, and create new and better jobs, we need to compete more, not less, in the global economy. We can't build walls to foreign competition, and we shouldn't want to. America is the biggest exporter, importer, producer, manufacturer, and innovator in the world. That's why I reject the false virtues of economic isolationism. Any confident, competent country and its government should embrace competition - it makes us stronger - not hide from our competitors and cheat our consumers and workers. We can compete and win, as we always have, or we can be left behind. Lowering barriers to trade creates more and better jobs, and higher wages. It keeps inflation under control. It makes goods more affordable for low- and middle-income consumers. Ninety-five percent of the world's consumers live outside the U.S. Our future prosperity depends on opening more of these markets, not closing them.

I recently traveled to Colombia and Mexico because I understand how vitally important it is to the prosperity and security of our country to strengthen our trade, investment and diplomatic ties to other countries in our hemisphere. I have often traveled over the years to Central and South America, and I have learned our relationships there are as important, if not more important, as any relationships we have in the world. It is the reason why I'm an unapologetic supporter of NAFTA, the Central American Free Trade Agreement, and the Colombian Free Trade Agreement, and why I believe a hemispheric free trade agreement is a worthy and necessary goal whose time has come. And while it is surely not my intention to become my opponent's scheduler, I hope Senator Obama soon visits some of the other countries of the Americas for the first time. Were he to do so, I think he, too, would see that stronger economic bonds with our neighbo rs and the closer friendships they encourage, are a great benefit in many ways to our country. Colombian President Uribe, a man of courage and vision, has risked much to combat the narco-terrorists of FARC for the sake of all peoples in this hemisphere. His recent leadership in freeing Americans held hostage for years should earn him the respect and gratitude of all Americans. And we should emulate his statesmanship by passing the trade agreement Colombia and the United States have negotiated, and which both countries would greatly benefit from.

I know that not all Americans have prospered in the global economy. And for those who, through no fault of their own, have lost their job to foreign competition, I have proposed a comprehensive reform of our unemployment insurance and worker retraining programs. We will use our community colleges to help train workers for specific opportunities in their communities. And for workers of a certain age who have lost a job that won't come back, if they move rapidly to a new job we'll help make up the difference in wages between their old job and the new one.

In the global economy what you learn is what you earn. Today, studies show that half of Hispanics entering high school do not graduate with their class. By the 12th grade, U.S. students in math and science score near the bottom of all industrialized nations. Many parents fear their children won't have the same opportunities they had. That is unacceptable in a country as great as ours. In many schools, particularly where people are struggling the hardest, the situation is dire, and I believe poses the civil rights challenge of our time. We need to shake up failed school bureaucracies with competition; hold schools accountable for results; strengthen math, science, technology and engineering curriculums; empower parents with choice; remove barriers to qualified instructors, attract and reward superior teachers, and have a fair but sure process to weed out incompetents. I'm a strong believer in charter schools. La Raza has hel ped establish 50 new charter schools and the results they are producing are very encouraging. Hispanics work hard and sacrifice a lot because their most cherished dreams are the ones they hold for their children. You understand the importance of early childhood development and the active role parents must play in their children's education to make sure they graduate on time and with an excellent opportunity to live happy and prosperous lives. You deserve a greater say in deciding how your children are educated, and I am committed to making sure you do.

Let me address one other issue important to all of us. As you know, I and many other colleagues twice attempted to pass comprehensive immigration legislation to fix our broken borders; ensure respect for the laws of this country; recognize the important economic contribution of immigrant laborers; apprehend those who came here illegally to commit crimes; and deal practically and humanely with those who came here, as my distant ancestors did, to build a better, safer life for their families, without excusing the fact they came here illegally or granting them privileges before those who have been waiting their turn outside the country. Many Americans did not believe us when we said we would secure our borders, and so we failed in our efforts. I don't want to fail again to achieve comprehensive immigration reform. We must prove we have the resources to secure our borders and use them, while respecting the dignity and rights of citizens and legal residents of the United States. When we have achieved our border security goal, we must enact and implement the other parts of practical, fair and necessary immigration policy. We have economic and humanitarian responsibilities as well, and they require no less dedication from us in meeting them.

Several years ago, the leading newspaper in my state published an article putting faces on the tragic human costs of illegal immigration, and I would like to briefly quote from it:

"Maria Hernandez Perez was No. 93. She was almost 2. She had thick brown hair and eyes the color of chocolate.

"Kelia Velazquez-Gonzales, 16, carried a Bible in her backpack. She was No. 109

"John Doe, No. 143, died with a rosary encircling his neck. His eyes were wide open."

We can't let immigrants break our laws with impunity. We can't leave our borders undefended. But these people are God's children, who wanted simply to be Americans, and we cannot forget the humanity God commands of us as we seek a remedy to this problem.

I spoke recently at both the NALEO and LULAC conferences, as did Senator Obama. I did not use those occasions to criticize Senator Obama. I would prefer not to do so today. But he suggested in his speeches there and here, that I turned my back on comprehensive reform out of political necessity. I feel I must, as they say, correct the record. At a moment of great difficulty in my campaign, when my critics said it would be political suicide for me to do so, I helped author with Senator Kennedy comprehensive immigration reform, and fought for its passage. I cast a lot of hard votes, as did the other Republicans and Democrats who joined our bipartisan effort. So did Senator Kennedy. I took my lumps for it without complaint. My campaign was written off as a lost cause. I did so not just because I believed it was the right thing to do for Hispanic Americans. It was the right thing to do for all Americans. Senator Obama declined t o cast some of those tough votes. He voted for and even sponsored amendments that were intended to kill the legislation, amendments that Senator Kennedy and I voted against. I never ask for any special privileges from anyone just for having done the right thing. Doing my duty to my country is its own reward. But I do ask for your trust that when I say, I remain committed to fair, practical and comprehensive immigration reform, I mean it. I think I have earned that trust.

Let me close by expressing my respect and gratitude for the contributions of Hispanic-Americans to the culture, economy and security of the country I have served all my adult life. I represent Arizona where Spanish was spoken before English was, and where the character and prosperity of our state owes a great deal to the many Arizonans of Hispanic descent who live there. And I know this country, which I love more than almost anything, would be the poorer were we deprived of the patriotism, industry and decency of those millions of Americans whose families came here from other countries in our hemisphere. Latinos are among the hardest working most productive people in our country. The strength of your religious faith and the strength and closeness of your families are a great force for social stability and individual happiness. In my recent visit to Mexico, I visited the Shrine of the Virgin of Guadalupe, and was greatly mov ed by the experience, and came to appreciate all the more your deep devotion to the God who created us and loves us all equally. I will honor your contributions to America for as long as I live. We would not be the special country we are without you.

I know many of you are Democrats, and many of you would usually vote for the presidential candidate of that party. I know I must work hard to win your votes, but you have always given me a respectful hearing, and I appreciate it. I know many of you were disappointed and hurt by those who used the debate on immigration last year, not to respectfully debate the issue, as most did, but to denigrate the contributions of Hispanics to our great country. I denounced those insults then, and I denounce them today. My friends, you know me. One of my proudest achievements as a politician is to have won 75 percent of the Hispanic vote in Arizona in my last re-election. I believe I'm the only member of the Senate to have twice won your Congressional Leadership Award, a distinction I am also very proud of. Senator Obama is a fine man, and an inspiring public figure. All Americans should be proud of his success. I also greatly admire Sena tor Hillary Clinton, and value her friendship. She, too, would have been a very worthy opponent. But I intend to compete for your votes by continuing to earn your trust.

When I was in prison in Vietnam, I like other of my fellow POWs, was offered early release by my captors. Most of us refused because we were bound to our code of conduct, which said those who had been captured the earliest had to be released the soonest. My friend, Everett Alvarez, a brave American of Mexican descent, had been shot down years before I was, and had suffered for his country much more and much longer than I had. To leave him behind would have shamed us. When you take the solemn stroll along that wall of black granite on the national Mall, it is hard not to notice the many names such as Rodriguez, Hernandez, and Lopez that so sadly adorn it. When you visit Iraq and Afghanistan you will meet some of the thousands of Hispanic-Americans who serve there, and many of those who risk their lives to protect the rest of us do not yet possess the rights and privileges of full citizenship in the country they love so well. To love your country, as I discovered in Vietnam, is to love your countrymen. Those men and women are my brothers and sisters, my fellow Americans, an association that means more to me than any other. As a private citizen or as your President, I will never, never do anything to dishonor our obligations to them and their families or to forget what they and their ancestors have done to make this country the beautiful, bountiful, blessed place we love.

Thank you.



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1 posted on 07/14/2008 3:54:11 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Norman Bates; Grunthor; Czar; AuntB

FYI Ping


2 posted on 07/14/2008 3:55:06 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Nothing like addressing a house full of self-proclaimed racists.

Idiot.


3 posted on 07/14/2008 3:56:43 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: calcowgirl

‘My HOME plan allows families who need help to apply — either at their local Post Office or online — for a new, guaranteed, fixed-rate, 30-year mortgage that will allow them to remain in their home, and raise their family with dignity.’

Wow. That kinda sounds like OUR HOME plan. Wow.


4 posted on 07/14/2008 3:59:59 PM PDT by BGHater (Heller v. DC= McCain-Feingold for Gun Control)
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To: calcowgirl

Lets see who wants to defend McCain on this one.


5 posted on 07/14/2008 4:00:15 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: calcowgirl

So? You can customize that speech for any group you’re speaking to. And Senator McCain will in the coming weeks.


6 posted on 07/14/2008 4:01:22 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: calcowgirl
I'm an unapologetic supporter of NAFTA, the Central American Free Trade Agreement, and the Colombian Free Trade Agreement, and why I believe a hemispheric free trade agreement is a worthy and necessary goal

Only one question to ask the candidates in this election.... Are you a globalist or an American?
7 posted on 07/14/2008 4:02:14 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: ConservativeMind

Nothing like addressing a house full of self-proclaimed racists.

Idiot.
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The disdain for, and total lack of respect, for politicians is growing at an exponential rate. They continue to destroy America for their own empowerment.


8 posted on 07/14/2008 4:02:19 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: ConservativeMind
But these people are God's children, who wanted simply to be Americans, and we cannot forget the humanity! --John McCain

Dear John,
We haven't forgotten.


9 posted on 07/14/2008 4:04:46 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer; All
Just when the fear Obuma McCainiaks get me thinking about voting for him..he opens his mouth and I regain my
sanity.
10 posted on 07/14/2008 4:09:12 PM PDT by shadowgovernment (From the Ashes of a Republican rout will raise a Conservative Party)
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To: Czar; All

Put me on your list. :)

He’s running for ‘President of the United States,’ not just ‘President of a Few Disgruntled White Males.’ ;)

Why not spend your time defeating Obama, versus slamming McCain? Where was your outrage when Hillary and Obama were courting the Hispanic vote? And, yes, I know who La Raza is; I don’t approve of their organization, but when are the other MEN in My Country going to get off their @sses and man up to save Her from south-of-the-border invaders? (No offense to those here in Law Enforcement, Border Patrol and the Military; I’m retired Army. I took MY turn.)

Here’s all any Conservative needs to know about Barrack Hussein Obama:

Special Interest Group Ratings:

Planned Parenthood - 100% Support
National Right To Life - 0% Support
NARAL - 100% Support
Americans for Tax Reform - 0% Support
ACLU - 83% Support
NEA - 100% Support
NOW Hags - 100% Support
Citizens Against Government Waste - 13% Support
Gun Owners of America - 0% Support
NRA - “F” Rating
Federation for American Immigration Reform - 0% Support
US Border Patrol - 8% Support
Unions - 82% - 100% Support
Population Connection - 100% Support (These are the ‘Zero Growth’ freaks)

http://vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=BS030017

[Barrack Hussein Obama’s record in the Illinois senate:]

- Opposed the Defense of Marriage Act; would work to repeal it in the U.S. Senate; would not vote for any legislation that would restrict the ability of gays and lesbians to marry.
- Opposed the Born Alive Infant Protection Act four times in Illinois. A similar bill passed the U.S. Senate 98-0. The Born Alive bill would have prohibited a baby from being born alive but left to die according to the mother’s wishes. Obama inexplicably opposed this bill not once, twice, or three times, but four times.
- Obama took almost $90,000 in bundled contributions from the Council for a Livable World. The council is a well-known anti-defense organization.
- Obama puts rigid ideology before what’s best for the people of Illinois, and presumably he would do that as President as well. He has on several occasions made public his opposition to the NAFTA trade agreement and his belief that it must be negotiated. All the while thanks to NAFTA, Illinois exports $1.3 billion in agricultural goods to Canada.
- Obama refused to vote for a bill in the Illinois State Senate that would have increased penalties for drug traffickers.
- Obama voted against a bill that would have delivered the death penalty to gang members who murder first responders.
- Finally, just in case you thought it couldn’t get any worse, Obama was the only member of the Illinois State Senate to vote against a bill that prohibited early release for sexual predators.

Can’t kill the innocent fast enough, can’t free the guilty soon enough!

Compare that to McCain’s voting record, and there you have it! :)


11 posted on 07/14/2008 4:09:25 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: calcowgirl

Same old, same old from McPanderer.


12 posted on 07/14/2008 4:09:31 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Czar
You have four choices; McCain, Obama, Barr, stay home (Sorry No Ron Paul). Bob Barr is no different from McCain. But a vote for Barr is essentially a vote for Obama.

From AJC Online

Apparently, among some conservatives, there’s been some dispute over where Libertarians stand on the issue of illegal immigration.

“The Libertarian Party has not exactly been strong on the issue of controlling the Mexican invasion into this country,” Boortz began.

“Actually, they have been,” Barr replied.

The two gentlemen moved to the matter of what to do with the paperless people who are already here.

Said Barr:

“You set a mechanism internally to determine who is here. And if you catch folks that are here unlawfully, and do not submit themselves to a background check that those coming into this country are going to be required to do, then you send them back to their country.”

Said Boortz:

“It sounds to me that you’re saying, if you find an illegal immigrant in this country, and they’re willing to submit to a background check, that that could open the door to them staying here.”

Said Barr:

“I think as a practical matter, that makes a lot of sense. I’m not sure how you would go about rounding up millions of people and trying to deport them. The key here is security….”


13 posted on 07/14/2008 4:13:16 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Sing it, Sister!!


14 posted on 07/14/2008 4:13:26 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: ishabibble

Some days it feels like it’s ‘You and Me Against the World,’ LOL!

I can’t let these Nattering Neighbobs of Negativity get me down. We win, either way. Either we have McCain in the White House, or we get to spend the next four or eight years poking these “Bobs” with a sharp stick because they sat on their hands in November, 2008. :)


15 posted on 07/14/2008 4:17:11 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: calcowgirl

Thank you, calcowgirl.


16 posted on 07/14/2008 4:23:03 PM PDT by MaggieCarta
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To: calcowgirl
Here's my "vote" for McCain:


17 posted on 07/14/2008 4:27:23 PM PDT by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: All

Anyone still considering voting for McBama has to be suicidal. Pandering to the this group of racists is sick.


18 posted on 07/14/2008 4:30:18 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Phil Gramm Whines)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; calcowgirl
"Put me on your list. :)"

You just put yourself on it.

"Why not spend your time defeating Obama, versus slamming McCain?"

And why not spend your time on McCain's few good points instead of giving us the usual parade of horribles on the Muslim, as to which we are all completely up to date. He couldn't be worse.

"Where was your outrage when Hillary and Obama were courting the Hispanic vote?"

Front and center, just where it is now that McCain is continuing his long and disgusting pattern of kissing the butt of every illegal alien his words and deeds have encouraged to enter this country illegally, his amnesty obsession giving every one them one more reason to remain here where they are not wanted.

"...but when are the other MEN in My Country going to get off their @sses and man up to save Her from south-of-the-border invaders?"

Ever hear of the Minutemen? The Minuteman Project?

"Be careful what you wish for" is still good advice.

McCain has done much to earn the enmity of the conservative base. We want nothing to do with him.

19 posted on 07/14/2008 4:33:23 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Perdogg
You have four choices
There a fifth (no pun intended) ...

20 posted on 07/14/2008 4:42:49 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Perdogg
Thanks for your comments, but I see nothing there that hasn't been said already.

As for choices, I will decide on that when the time comes.

On the dialog between Boortz and Barr, the latter's "plan" is nothing more than "amnesty lite". He offers up the usual weak "too many to deport" open borders excuse when he is well aware that a tough enforcement program will accomplish what has been called "sel-deportation". It works. But not without tough and determined enforcement.

For true conservatives, McCain is not an option. For those with more flexible principles, however, he is a definite possibility.

21 posted on 07/14/2008 4:45:42 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: TitansAFC; meandog; onyx; MARTIAL MONK; GulfBreeze; Kuksool; freespirited; Salvation; furquhart; ...
McCain actually touches on much more than immigration here. To the surprise of some I'm sure, he also once again reaffirms his commitment to securing our border.

The McCain List.
22 posted on 07/14/2008 4:58:36 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Perdogg

“The Libertarian Party has not exactly been strong on the issue of controlling the Mexican invasion into this country,” Boortz began.”

Nor has Neal Boortz been strong on illegal immigration over the years. I listed to him for several years starting in the mid-nineties. He often proclaimed himself to be a Libertarian, and I heard him state his position on immigration several times BEFORE the amnesty debates of the past few years. I always disagreed with his position.

Libertarians are almost open borders advocates, at least they were a few years ago. Boortz would say that anyone who wished to come here and work, be self-supporting and obey our laws should be allowed to come here. Meaning, no immigrations laws to prevent such people from coming here.

He’s changed since, and has been a strong opponent of amnesty, and calls the illegals invaders.


23 posted on 07/14/2008 5:06:43 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Perdogg

Make that “self-deportation” in the third paragraph.


24 posted on 07/14/2008 5:16:39 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: calcowgirl

“Remarks by John McCain at the 2008 National Council of La Raza Convention (full text)”

Well. NAACP. LULAC. “The Race.”

When does he address the KKK?


25 posted on 07/14/2008 5:17:31 PM PDT by Grunthor (Soon to be a major world religion.)
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To: EagleUSA

“The disdain for, and total lack of respect, for politicians is growing at an exponential rate.”

They (especially Juan) are getting what they deserve, in spades.


26 posted on 07/14/2008 5:18:57 PM PDT by Grunthor (Soon to be a major world religion.)
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To: calcowgirl

That BASTARD.


27 posted on 07/14/2008 8:05:30 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Accepting the REALITY & trying to reverse America's slow global economic decline, is true patriotism)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Obama and McCain: Seducing the Hispanics:


28 posted on 07/14/2008 8:09:00 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Accepting the REALITY & trying to reverse America's slow global economic decline, is true patriotism)
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To: calcowgirl
Hispanics work hard and sacrifice a lot

Insert any ethnic group in that statement, Whites, Blacks, Asians, etc., and what he is saying is that all people of a certain ethnic group are the same. It's an ignorant statement. This is what we are offered for a candidate. Hurl.

29 posted on 07/14/2008 8:18:38 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Grunthor

They (especially Juan) are getting what they deserve, in spades.
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Where I struggle is with the fact that Juan and company (the RINOs as well as the radical socialist anti-American liberals) STILL HAVE JOBS! And we are being FORCED to pay for this kind of destruction of America -—

What is wrong with this picture??


30 posted on 07/14/2008 8:30:53 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: ConservativeMind

Nothing like having the balls to go to territory that you know might be a little hostile but you have enough character to stand before them and say: “When I become President, I will be President of all the people; those who love me and those who oppose me.”

Good for John McCain. He has the guts to go before La Raza and the NAACP; unlike Bush, who ran and hid, every year, from both groups.


31 posted on 07/14/2008 9:46:29 PM PDT by no dems (99% of the Politicians give all the others a bad name.)
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To: no dems

So, he should go in front of NAMBLA at their national convention as their main speaker, too?


32 posted on 07/14/2008 9:59:06 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: Grunthor

How many people have the afore mentioned groups murdered?


33 posted on 07/15/2008 12:46:59 AM PDT by robert david (John McCain = America's last hope)
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To: calcowgirl
I believe the role of government is to unleash the creativity, ingenuity and hard work of the American people, and make it easier to create jobs.

No, Juan, the role of government is to get the (explicative deleted) out of the way.

Well, at least McQueeg was telling the truth when he said he doesn't know much about the economy. Or, whatever it was he said...

I can't read this anymore.

34 posted on 07/15/2008 3:21:39 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (Cold-hearted Conservative and proud of it, man.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“Either we have McCain in the White House, or we get to spend the next four or eight years poking these “Bobs” with a sharp stick because they sat on their hands in November, 2008. :)”

I’m not trying to start a flame war, but do you REALLY think that if all the Freepers ran out en masse to vote for McCain it would be enough to tilt the election to him? If we were that powerful, Fred Thompson would be the nominee. I expect some real ugliness here in November if McCain loses, and it will totally uncalled for.

If you look at Rasmussen’s internals, McCain is winning a greater numbber of Republican voters than Obama is of Democrat voters. IOW, this election, like all elections, will be decided in the middle, not by Freepers and not by conservatives. If trends continue, the number of registered Republicans not voting for McCain will be too small to be determinative.

It may make some immature Freepers feel better if they can vent their anger on other Freepers who made a different choice, but the few Freepers not voting for McCain are not going to make a difference.

If you want McCain to win, it would be more productive if you threatened to poke a moderate with a sharp stick, especially in Wisconsin, a state McCain could win, but currently is not.


35 posted on 07/15/2008 5:07:02 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet (Be a monthly donor.)
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To: LadyNavyVet

No, Freepers are not “all-powerful” which is what also makes the fact that they think sitting home is going to prove some sort of point this election cycle. That worked SO well when we lost the Senate to the likes of Reid and Pelosi, LOL!

Do what your conscience tells you to do. I am. I want the White House for my party. I want the Senate back, at a minimum. Obama will set us back hundreds of years, if not flat-out get even more of us killed.

We can start the revolution later. :)


36 posted on 07/15/2008 5:39:19 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Compare that to McCain’s voting record...

And they match up pretty well. Especially the "F" rating from gun Rights groups.

No thanks...

37 posted on 07/15/2008 6:00:54 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: robert david

http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/article.php?sid=163

And that is just Juans’ peeps.


38 posted on 07/15/2008 6:44:00 AM PDT by Grunthor (Soon to be a major world religion.)
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To: no dems

“Good for John McCain. He has the guts to go before La Raza and the NAACP; unlike Bush, who ran and hid, every year, from both groups.”

Juan is a pandering FOOL.


39 posted on 07/15/2008 6:45:19 AM PDT by Grunthor (Soon to be a major world religion.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“That worked SO well when we lost the Senate to the likes of Reid and Pelosi, LOL!”

It is a myth that conservatives sat out the 2006 election. Check out Rasmussen’s 2006 polls. That election, like all elections, was lost in the mushy middle, which mushed over to the Democrats out of frustration with the Republicans. Freepers constantly spread baseless assertions about why elections are lost, always hinging on the conservative vote doing this or that, which I guess makes them feel all-powerful. But the facts are the facts. The hard right vote is not enough to swing elections in this country. I wish it were, but it is not, and never has been. Republican Presidents need to win over the middle to win elections. Reagan did that by pulling those voters to the right. To a smaller extent, so did Bush I and Bush II. Bush I also had the distinct advantage of following Reagan.

McCain is trying to meet those voters on the left. We’ll see if it works. To win, McCain needs to win over white, blue-collar moderate voters in key swing states like PA. He is not going to do that by sucking up to hispanic racists in California, or by hanging out in Colombia and Mexico. If McCain loses, it will be because his campaign strategy is beyond stupid, not because 10% or so out of a few hundred thousand Freeper voters spread throughout all fifty states made the difference.


40 posted on 07/15/2008 6:46:11 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet (Be a monthly donor.)
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To: Grunthor

Whatever.


41 posted on 07/15/2008 8:50:29 AM PDT by no dems (99% of the Politicians give all the others a bad name.)
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To: Dead Corpse

He’s gotten 100% ratings from the NRA in the past. No longer?

Well, I guess it’s Obama for me, then. ;)


42 posted on 07/15/2008 3:23:45 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: LadyNavyVet

“If McCain loses, it will be because his campaign strategy is beyond stupid, not because 10% or so out of a few hundred thousand Freeper voters spread throughout all fifty states made the difference.”

Can’t argue with that. But do what you can for our side, anyway.

I’ll be working the polls and have signed on to work for his campaign here in Wisconsin. If it proves to be fruitless, at least I’ll know that I did all I could and wasn’t just a “keyboard cowboy” about it. :)

And you’ll be helping how?


43 posted on 07/15/2008 3:26:40 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: ConservativeMind
So, he should go in front of NAMBLA at their national convention as their main speaker, too?

If you wouldn't make statements like that, people wouldn't know just how ignorant you really are. BTW, I didn't know that NAMBLA had a National Convention; I don't visit their website. How did you know?
44 posted on 07/15/2008 3:47:00 PM PDT by no dems (99% of the Politicians give all the others a bad name.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“And you’ll be helping how?”

I’ll be giving McCain all the help he deserves.


45 posted on 07/15/2008 5:21:47 PM PDT by LadyNavyVet (Be a monthly donor.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
He's never gotten higher than a C- from the GOA and only F's the last few years. Even from the NRA.

So yeah, McCain was a "RINO" and has only gotten more LIBERAL in the intervening years.

46 posted on 07/15/2008 5:34:14 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse

I know, but he’s OUR RINO. We obviously didn’t fight hard enough for the other candidates.

After we win the White House and take back the Senate, I’ll start the REAL Revolution. :)

(I know; I’m dreamin’, but I can’t HELP being the Pollyanna that I am.)


47 posted on 07/15/2008 6:03:18 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: LadyNavyVet

Well, that’s your choice. But don’t denigrate mine, then.

See you in November. :)


48 posted on 07/15/2008 6:04:11 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

He’s YOUR “rino”. I’m voting for a conservative. Ask yourself why you aren’t....


49 posted on 07/15/2008 6:38:48 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse

Because it’s useless this time around.

Truly, just vote your conscience. I know I won’t change your mind. You won’t change mine, either. :)

See you in November. I can’t live with myself if I help put Obana in office.


50 posted on 07/15/2008 6:44:00 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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