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Archbishop of Canterbury: 'Christian doctrine is offensive to Muslims'
dailymail.co.uk ^ | July 15, 2008 | Steve Doughty

Posted on 07/15/2008 11:41:21 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Christian doctrine is offensive to Muslims, the Archbishop of Canterbury said today.

Dr Rowan Williams also criticised Christiaity in history for its violence, harsh use of punishments, and its betrayal of its peaceful principles.

His acknowledgement of Christian faults came in a highly conciliatory letter to Islamic leaders calling for an alliance between the two faiths for 'the common good'.

It risked fresh controversy for the Archbishop in the wake of his pronouncement earlier this year that a place should be found for Islamic sharia law in the British legal system.

The Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams has admitted that Christian doctrine is offensive to muslims

The letter to prominent Muslim scholars comes at a time when Dr Williams is facing immense pressures from inside his own Church of England and Anglican Communion.

A gathering of Anglican bishops from around the world that begins tomorrow is on the brink of a devastating split over whether homosexuality and gay clergy should win their approval.

The Archbishop's letter is a reply to feelers to Christians put out by Islamic leaders from 43 countries last autumn.

In it, Dr Williams said that violence is incompatible with the beliefs of either faith and that, once that principle is accepted, both can work together against poverty and prejudice and to help the environment.

He also said that the Christian belief in the Trinity - that God is father, son and Holy Ghost at the same time - 'is difficult, sometimes offensive, to Muslims.'

Trinitarian doctrine conflicts with the Islamic view that there is just one all-powerful God.

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1 posted on 07/15/2008 11:41:21 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This guy just can’t resist peeing on the theological electric fence, can’t he?


2 posted on 07/15/2008 11:43:35 AM PDT by coydog (Keep Canada green - paint a Liberal!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Boy, this guy just can’t wait to be a dhimmi.


3 posted on 07/15/2008 11:43:49 AM PDT by kromike
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Will no one relieve me of this low born priest?”


4 posted on 07/15/2008 11:44:13 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What an Asshat.


5 posted on 07/15/2008 11:45:23 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What a putz.


6 posted on 07/15/2008 11:45:42 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Muslim doctrine is offensive to Christians


7 posted on 07/15/2008 11:46:03 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So is Judaism, Archbishop, but since both Judaism and Christianity predate Islam, I don’t think it’s the former two who need to change anything.


8 posted on 07/15/2008 11:46:23 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Free ThinkerNY
With “religious leaders” like this guy, no wonder England is circling the drain.
9 posted on 07/15/2008 11:46:55 AM PDT by alarm rider (Peace! through superior fire power....)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Is this news?

The Gospel is an offense to those who cling to this world which is passing away. Islam with its sensual, fleshly ‘paradise’ and its demonic doctrine of conversion by the sword is most assuredly of this world, so naturally the Gospel is an offense to its adherents, even as it is to the self-avowedly secular.


10 posted on 07/15/2008 11:46:55 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Unbelievable.

Rowan Williams has been a disaster. Not just for Anglican/Episcopalian communicants. Why doesn’t he just take off his hat and put on a turban?

Former Cradle Episcopalian. Now Evangelical.


11 posted on 07/15/2008 11:47:19 AM PDT by Amadeo
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Trinitarian doctrine conflicts with the Islamic view that there is just one all-powerful God.

Utter nonsense.

The doctrine of the Trinity maintains the core belief in ONE omnipotent God; revealed in three persons.

It is the misconception on the part of Islam to attribute the belief in three gods to Christianity.

12 posted on 07/15/2008 11:47:21 AM PDT by rjsimmon
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Ayatollah of Canterbury speaks again.


13 posted on 07/15/2008 11:47:26 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"He also said that the Christian belief in the Trinity - that God is father, son and Holy Ghost at the same time - 'is difficult, sometimes offensive, to Muslims.'"

Yep, the Trinity is really offensive to Muslims, but I'm sure they won't have any problem with the Church of England ordaining gay priests and bishops.

14 posted on 07/15/2008 11:47:27 AM PDT by Califelephant
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To: Free ThinkerNY

As that great philosopher Steve Martin once said

WELL EXXXXCUUUUUUUSE ME!


15 posted on 07/15/2008 11:47:49 AM PDT by mrmargaritaville
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"In it, Dr Williams said that violence is incompatible with the beliefs of either faith and that..."

Me thinks Dr. Williams does not know much about Islam.

jw

16 posted on 07/15/2008 11:47:49 AM PDT by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He’s just figuring this out? Has it dawned on him that Muslim doctrine is offensive to Christians? Yet we don’t cut their throats for it when we come across them.


17 posted on 07/15/2008 11:48:11 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Perhaps the Church of England should bow to Muslim sensibilities and Sharia law regarding homosexuality and gay clergy.


18 posted on 07/15/2008 11:48:31 AM PDT by Poincare
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Christian doctrine is offensive to Muslims”

“Show tolerance towards their intolerance!”

or

“Submit to your masters”

All the same.


19 posted on 07/15/2008 11:48:34 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Everything is offensive to Mohammadans.


20 posted on 07/15/2008 11:49:33 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

INTREP


21 posted on 07/15/2008 11:51:05 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Who put this guy in charge of the church? If I were in it I would demand a recall.


22 posted on 07/15/2008 11:51:44 AM PDT by Nevadan
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To: agere_contra; All
Heere Bigynneth the Tale of the Asse-Hatte
23 posted on 07/15/2008 11:51:46 AM PDT by dighton
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Archbishop of Canterbury: 'Christian doctrine is offensive to Muslims'

Who CARES!?

24 posted on 07/15/2008 11:52:01 AM PDT by Wil H
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I don’t have a horse in this race, but I’m praying for a split, frankly. Millions of Anglicans deserve better than this horsepoop.


25 posted on 07/15/2008 11:52:23 AM PDT by grellis (By order of the Ingham County Sheriff this tag has been seized for nonpayment of taxes)
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To: snugs; UKRaddell

What is going on over there?


26 posted on 07/15/2008 11:52:28 AM PDT by AliVeritas (If you don't love this country, tear up your passport, leave and live under a dictator.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Oh, and this asshat is badly in need of a neck circumcision.


27 posted on 07/15/2008 11:52:32 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He loves homosexuals and Muslim terrorists and hates devout Christians. This is the leader of the Anglican church. The decadence of the elites becomes more evident every day.


28 posted on 07/15/2008 11:52:34 AM PDT by detective
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To: Nevadan

The Queen of England did it.


29 posted on 07/15/2008 11:52:42 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: AliVeritas

It’s what always happens when liberals take over religious sects, they pervert them to submit to evil.


30 posted on 07/15/2008 11:53:33 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Death cults have little use for Christian ideals


31 posted on 07/15/2008 11:54:00 AM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I was under the impression that ANY form of religion other than Islam is offensive to muslims... In fact, it seems to be rather difficult to find anything at all that isn’t offensive to muslims.


32 posted on 07/15/2008 11:54:13 AM PDT by dfwright (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left (Eccl. 10:2, NIV))
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To: massgopguy

LOL!

Just read recently that the founder of this guys religion (Henry VIII) had St. Thomas of Canterbury exhumed, tried in absentia for treason against his King, then had his bones burned. What a tool.


33 posted on 07/15/2008 11:54:35 AM PDT by allmendream (If the New Yorker makes a joke and liberals don't get it, is it still funny?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Islamic beliefs are offensive to Christians.


34 posted on 07/15/2008 11:54:46 AM PDT by Notwithstanding ("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - Hillary from Senate well 9/12/01)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Rowan Williams is offensive to Christians. And anyone else with half a brain.


35 posted on 07/15/2008 11:55:35 AM PDT by mojito
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To: theDentist

Traitorous priests who show nothing but disgust for the Bible as they push for voluntary subjugation are also offensive to Christians.


36 posted on 07/15/2008 11:56:58 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Well that explains it. Her son obviously is an idiot when it comes to the dangers of Islam in England. Now I know she is one too.


37 posted on 07/15/2008 11:59:01 AM PDT by Nevadan
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To: Amadeo

Why don’t they just get it over with

and put the

American “queen”

on Canterburry’s episcopal throne

and crown his gay sex partner, too?


38 posted on 07/15/2008 11:59:06 AM PDT by Notwithstanding ("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - Hillary from Senate well 9/12/01)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Time for the Queen to earn her keep and replace this creep.


39 posted on 07/15/2008 11:59:18 AM PDT by bajabaja
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Can anyone, please, tell me what non-muslim is NOT offensive to muslims?
40 posted on 07/15/2008 11:59:48 AM PDT by alecqss
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The Archbishop of Canterbury, is offensive to Christians.
41 posted on 07/15/2008 12:00:38 PM PDT by Ratblaster ("White folks greed runs a world in need" B Hussein Obama The Muslim Magic Negro)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

People like this are the reason that Britain is no longer a predominately Christian nation. If the leader of your church is worried about the offensive nature of the Gospel, then he needs to be shown the door. The Apostles who founded the Church did not couch the Gospel in inoffensive terms to avoid martyrdom. They proclaimed it even though they knew they would be punished or even killed by the authorities. Get a clue, Rowan!


42 posted on 07/15/2008 12:01:51 PM PDT by D_Idaho ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood...")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Kick this heretic and apostate out now. I don’t know what his true religion is, but it is light years away from Christianity.


43 posted on 07/15/2008 12:02:28 PM PDT by MBB1984
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Talk about the wrong man for the wrong time!


44 posted on 07/15/2008 12:02:56 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: mojito

“He told Muslim leaders that faith has no connection with political power or force, and that Christians have in the past betrayed this idea.”

-Oh really? If it weren’t for Political Power and Force, we’d all be Mythraism. Never heard of it? Understandable because if Constantine’s mother hadn’t converted the emperor to Christianity, Christianity would be about as well known as the Mithraic Rites.


45 posted on 07/15/2008 12:03:29 PM PDT by johnnycap
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To: Ratblaster

Liberals are very good at using diversions and they get it from their Manifesto induced manuals on “how to run a communist cell”.

This is all a diversion to deflect away from the fact that the Anglican church is falling apart at the seams due to liberal secularism in the Anglican church.


46 posted on 07/15/2008 12:03:59 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
He told Muslim leaders that faith has no connection with political power or force, and that Christians have in the past betrayed this idea.

This guy doesn't understand Islam at all, does he?

47 posted on 07/15/2008 12:04:28 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Global Warming Heretic -- http://agw-heretic.blogspot.com)
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Archbishop of Canterbury: 'Christian doctrine is offensive to Muslims'

So what's your point, Rowie? Christians find the Muslim doctrine offensive.

48 posted on 07/15/2008 12:04:45 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: mojito

“He told Muslim leaders that faith has no connection with political power or force, and that Christians have in the past betrayed this idea.”

-Oh really? If it weren’t for Political Power and Force, we’d all be Mythraism. Never heard of it? Understandable because if Constantine’s mother hadn’t converted the emperor to Christianity, Christianity would be about as well known as the Mithraic Rites.


49 posted on 07/15/2008 12:04:53 PM PDT by johnnycap
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I wonder if gene robinson is offensive to muslims.


50 posted on 07/15/2008 12:05:47 PM PDT by Schnucki
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