Posted on 07/15/2008 12:59:18 PM PDT by PurpleMan
"A Defense Department DNA identification lab has helped bring to a close a near-century-old mystery, laying to rest a search for the remains of two children executed alongside the rest of the family of Russia’s last czar."
"Now, the lab has again helped the Russian government by identifying the remains of those two children, found last year in a shallow grave about 70 feet from the larger gravesite."
(Excerpt) Read more at defenselink.mil ...
V. Lenin
Its been keeping me up nights. Now I can sleep well.
Way cool.
Very fancisnating article on how they proved this.
Hard to believe that the commies will kill innocent children....
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What is with the Russians and the last Tsar?
Very cool, sent it on to a friend who loves the history of this stuff.
Isn’t this the lab that found out the ID of one of the “Unknowns” at Arlington. Also, couldn’t they now identify the others if families of MIAs from those wars submitted samples. Large project I know.
Thanks to DNA, they are now able to go back to their cold cases and are solving them at a rate of about two per week.
Oliver North's War Stories from the 4th of July weekend was about JPAC and their amazing story. I am currently working on my degree in military history and hope to go to work with JPAC once I have my master's.
“What is with the Russians and the last Tsar?”
IMHYIO (In My Humble Yet Ignorant Opinion)
From one perspective, it is often thought that the Russian people...how shall on say...liked the monarchy of the tsar.
Another one is that since the Romanovs ruled Russia from 1613 to 1917 it’s interesting to know if there are, if fact any left.
Lastly, is Anastasia claiming to be the last survivor.
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The Tsars had plenty of blood on their hands - as barbaric sometimes as the commies - good riddance to them all.
“Hard to believe that the commies will kill innocent children....”
If so, you haven’t been paying attention.
So much for the Tsar, the Tsarina and the Tsardines.
Sorry couldn’t resist
I was referring specifically to identifying those in plaza in Arlington, but I guess many more would take their place. Thanx for the info.
As to liking the monarchy, you have to admit that, compared with his successors in power, Nicolas doesn't look too bad at all.
Technically, Nicolas II was not the last Tsar; after his abdication, his brother Michael reigned for one day.
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There’s a passage in one of Solzhenistyn’s Gulag books, where he describes how the inmates of the forced labour camp where he was imprisioned, would pass around a copy of ‘Resurrection’ by Leo N Tolstoy (the book was forbidden) and salivate, saying God Bless the Tzar - whilst reading about the conditions in the Tzarist prisons...so many hours of excercise, so many pounds of bread, so many ounces of fat and meat...it sounded like heaven to them.
Thanks for posting.
I have wondered about that for decades.
If you can find a copy The Education of a Pricess by Marie, Grand Duchess of Russia is a very interesting book about the last days of Russia under the Tsar and the beginnings of the Communists.
“Hard to believe that the commies will kill innocent children....”
Yeah. Who knew?
The wonderful atheist communists did not have the guts to admit to their own wickedness. They tried to cover it up, in fact they went to great lengths to hide their inherent ruthlessness.
Even those such as these atheistic communists who are disgusting enough to deny absolute morality still have to deal with the weight of the eternal laws of justice which point directly to the fact of absolute morality.
Thus they lie about their crimes, their abominations and about the emptiness of their world view.
Thanks SC for posting this...one of my favorite topics.
From every thing I have ever read about the subject, and I have read extensively, I am convinced that Anna Anderson was Anastasia. Many survivors of the Czar’s family believed she was as well, and the woman known as “Anna Anderson” is buried in a Romanov cemetery.
The DNA samples were obtained from Prince Philip, husband of the Queen. The British Royals have a vested interest in denying Anna Anderson’s claims.... there are billions of dollars in British and Swiss banks awaiting the true survivor.
Take a look at Peter Kurth’s book and view the documentation, especially the comparative photos. They are very convincing.
And no, I am not some conspiratorial kook, but someone fascinated by Imperial Rissia who has read hundreds of books on the subject.
Hmmm. That was my maternal grandmother's name. This is indeed bad news. It means I'm not the Czar of Russia.
There are quite a few Romanovs left, just not Nicolas II or his descendants.
I was at Half Price Books last month, and bought two Anastasia books - one from 1983, one from 1989. The authors are both clearly convinced that Anna Anderson was Anastasia.
But the DNA she no lie!
SEBASTIAN: Remind me a little. What do we do at the "Ministry of Alteration?"
COP: You... change people, sir.
SEBASTIAN: In what way?
COP: You change them from being alive people, to being dead people. To purify democracy.
BILLY: Purify?!
COP: No one has done more to purge the ballot boxes than the Voter Colonel.
dsc ~ Yeah. Who knew?
Kill children? You mean like after they're born??
That's just soooo gross, man!
Ivan the Terrible was certainly barbaric ... however, Nicholas II executed, on average, about 7 people per year for political offenses. (And that would include things like politically-motivated assassinations and attempted assassinations.) He also permitted and encouraged pogroms against Jews, which may have killed in the hundreds or low thousands.
The Bolsheviks, in their first year of power, executed about 18,000 per month for political reasons, and bragged about it.
Later on, 9 million Ukrainian peasants were systematically starved to death by Stalin. The Western media, led by the NY Times, covered up that holocaust.
Nothing the Tsars ever did, or thought of, remotely compared with that.
Do you really think this lab in Maryland would have played along with Prince Philip's desires? Also, Anna Anderson herself has been tested and proven not to be from the Romanovs.
IIRC, Romanov wasn’t related to them and most knew it but that still didn’t stop a good Hollywood story.
I appreciated the sarcasm.
Because quite frankly... as far as I can see, there was nothing great about Nicolas II. He was an inept ruler that allowed communism to take over the country.
He was regarded as the 3rd richest person in history. Wasn't his advisor Rasputin? The only thing that sticks out is this tsar was a martyr...
Why would an average Russian give a rat's hiney about him?
“Nothing the Tsars ever did, or thought of, remotely compared with that. “
St Petersburgh was built on a swamp with pilings every 10’
It is said that one serf died for every piling that was driven into the ground.
The Tsars were responsible for over a million brutal deaths.
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP12.HTM
Russia is morally bankrupt - always was and will be into the forseeable future.
Yep, he sure did and now we have our very own 'Lenin' running for the presidency of the USA.
He sure did, that is why my family ended up in Poland and because of Hitler are no more. My father's father, his wife and 3 children immigrated to the USA in 1931.
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