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California Targets New Menace: Helium-Filled Foil Balloons
The Wall Street Journal ^ | July 15, 2008 | AMY KAUFMAN

Posted on 07/15/2008 1:50:31 PM PDT by MissouriConservative

California state Sen. Jack Scott says he didn't intend to "be a party pooper." It's just that helium-filled foil balloons -- like those found at hospital gift shops and office parties -- are dangerous. They float into electric lines and cause power outages, more than 800 in California last year, utilities say.

He drafted a bill to ban foil balloons; it sailed through the state Senate and now awaits a vote in the Assembly.

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The pro-balloon people are hoping that even if the bill does pass, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger will veto it. At a recent news conference, the governor commented that he couldn't get the legislature to work on the now-overdue state budget. A member of the audience joked that they'd been too busy outlawing balloons.

"Oh yes, a very important law," mocked Gov. Schwarzenegger. "Let's outlaw the balloons. Let's punish the people again."

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Mr. Scott, however, insists balloons pose a real danger and must be stopped no matter how unpopular the move may be. "It's not my intention to ruin birthday parties, but children will inevitably let these balloons go up into the air and that's a threat.

In California, the balloon industry has come under regulatory scrutiny before. In 1990, it became the only state to pass a law requiring that helium-filled foil balloons be sold with a weight affixed to them, such as a bag of chocolates or a coffee mug. Under Mr. Scott's bill, someone selling a helium-filled foil balloon on a string could be fined $100.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: balloon; biggovernment; democrats; energy; environment; govwatch; greens; grinchstolebirthdays; lunacy; nannystate; powergrid; starkravingsocialism
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1 posted on 07/15/2008 1:50:32 PM PDT by MissouriConservative
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To: MissouriConservative

All I can say is...what have we become?


2 posted on 07/15/2008 1:51:02 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (Never pick a fight with an ugly person; they've got nothing to lose.)
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To: MissouriConservative

How about a ban on helium-filled politicians?


3 posted on 07/15/2008 1:53:15 PM PDT by EggsAckley (If you shoot at mimes, should you use a silencer?)
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To: MissouriConservative

If this is true about the ballons causing power outages, I do not see the problem with this bill? In fact I would support it.


4 posted on 07/15/2008 1:55:15 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: EggsAckley

Silly me thought California had a budget crisis...but I guess the most that they have to worry about is helium filled foil balloons...the scurge of mankind from they say.

How I wish the problems were this lame.


5 posted on 07/15/2008 1:56:05 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (Never pick a fight with an ugly person; they've got nothing to lose.)
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To: MissouriConservative

It sure sounds like micro-management of society when they get into issues like balloons.


6 posted on 07/15/2008 1:56:41 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: rawhide

They float into electric lines and cause power outages, more than 800 in California last year, utilities say

I’d really have to see the data on that one. With the amount of open air vs. the amount of space an electric line takes up in it, I can’t see this being even remotely possible.


7 posted on 07/15/2008 1:57:50 PM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I’m seriously afraid to ask the question...”What’s next?”


8 posted on 07/15/2008 1:57:58 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (Never pick a fight with an ugly person; they've got nothing to lose.)
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To: MissouriConservative
They float into electric lines and cause power outages,,,,

I'll wait for the Mythbusters episode before I accept that.

My wife had some from a party but she has tossed them. I wanted to check their conductibility myself.

9 posted on 07/15/2008 2:01:26 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: MissouriConservative

Balloons and changing weather - man, those liberals are deep thinkers!


10 posted on 07/15/2008 2:02:09 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: EggsAckley

they’re filled with methane


11 posted on 07/15/2008 2:02:30 PM PDT by woollyone (100 rounds per week totals over 5000 rounds in a year. Just thought you'd want to know.)
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They float into electric lines and cause power outages, more than 800 in California last year, utilities say.

Sorry, but my BS meter pegged on that one.

EVEN IF the foil is conductive
It cannot span any two lines, except maybe on top of a pole transformer.

It's filled with helium
So it's not likely to land on TOP of a transformer, where most terminals are.

EVEN IF the string is conductive
If it spans two HV lines, it cannot conduct current for more than a few milliseconds before it vaporizes, not likely to trip a breaker anywhere.

Somebody's blowing smoke here.

12 posted on 07/15/2008 2:03:51 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: woollyone

When helium balloons are outlawed, only outlaws will have helium balloons (or methane, whatever)


13 posted on 07/15/2008 2:04:41 PM PDT by DeLaine (Lord, let me be the kind of person my dog thinks I am)
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To: MissouriConservative

I do not believe these mylar balloons can short out a power line. They are not big enough. One day we had a dust devil that had picked up some trash in the neighborhood, including an aluminum roofing panel two feet wide and eight feet long. The wind dropped the aluminum panel neatly across both wires of the powerline, and that was most highly amusing.


14 posted on 07/15/2008 2:04:58 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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"I’d really have to see the data on that one."

Me too. How many vehicles run into those same poles?

15 posted on 07/15/2008 2:06:08 PM PDT by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: KoRn

“Me too. How many vehicles run into those same poles?”

In my neighborhood we get at least one squirrel blackout a year...fries the little devils crispy.

So I guess we’re gonna ban squirrels now?


16 posted on 07/15/2008 2:08:39 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (Never pick a fight with an ugly person; they've got nothing to lose.)
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To: MissouriConservative

There were 800 power outages caused by these balloons. How many small businesses suffered lost time or lost computer data? How many hospitals had to go on emergency generators, perhaps risking patients’ safety? How many extra police man-hours did cities have to pay for to provide intersection control and increased patrols? If we’ve learned anything in the last few months, it’s how vital energy is to our economy. If balloons are actually causing this many outages, ban ‘em. Besides, balloons are about as stupid a gift as there is. Takes no thought whatsoever to grab a balloon at the grocery store. A meaningless gesture that is apparently hurting the economy.


17 posted on 07/15/2008 2:08:59 PM PDT by mngran2
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To: Vinnie

There aluminum coated mylar. The aluminum is on the inside. They wouldn’t conduct on the outside. Since the coating is only a couple of molecules thick, the aluminum would immediately burn off if subjected to any current.


18 posted on 07/15/2008 2:10:26 PM PDT by babygene (This Government no longer works to secure our freedoms and provide for our common defense.)
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To: MissouriConservative

When foil helium balloons are outlawed...


19 posted on 07/15/2008 2:11:09 PM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: MissouriConservative

In my neighborhood we say that whenever a squirrel farts the power goes out.

I finally got fed up with it and now have an 18,000 watt generator that runs the whole place, hot tub and all. We call him Sparky.


20 posted on 07/15/2008 2:12:05 PM PDT by EggsAckley (If you shoot at mimes, should you use a silencer?)
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