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Organization on the defensive over its name (La Raza - The Race - NCLR , San Diego convention )
San Diego Union - Tribune ^ | 7/15/08 | Hiram Soto

Posted on 07/15/2008 3:47:38 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge

Let me get this straight. This group has a name that in it’s essence generates skeptisism and doubt in peoples minds as to their motives...and will continue to do so.

Many conservatives on FR are opposed to the aims and goals of this group and would like to minimize their influence in any way they can.

So, many FReepers are therefore demanding they change their name to something like “Cute and Fluffy Hispanics for the Well Being and Happiness of Everyone”.

I just don’t get it. Why is that so many conservatives can’t think strategically or long term? “La Raza” is a gift that will keep on giving for a long time and they turn sommersaults to make it go away.


21 posted on 07/15/2008 7:25:54 PM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 men hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: Cacique; NormsRevenge; PARodrig

Because “La Raza Cosmica” is a uniquely Mexican concept developed by Jose Vasconcelos nearly a century ago. The concept came out of the cultural portion of the Mexican Revolution, and asserted that the Mexicans possessed both the rational values of the European, and the spiritual values of the Indians, hence “the cosmic race/La Raza Cosmica.” Ever since, the term “La Raza” has been synonymous with “the people” in the Mexican public sphere.


22 posted on 07/15/2008 7:27:44 PM PDT by Clemenza (We are a REPUBLIC, not a "Will of the People" Mobocracy)
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To: Bob J

“La Raza” is a gift that will keep on giving for a long time and they turn sommersaults to make it go away.”

Yeah they will give like crazy, especially with big ole pander bears like Juanito, huh?


23 posted on 07/15/2008 9:35:58 PM PDT by Grunthor (Soon to be a major world religion.)
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To: Grunthor

So your strategy to defeating them is getting them to change their name?


24 posted on 07/15/2008 10:05:08 PM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 men hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: NormsRevenge
Then name the damn thing "El Pueblo", or "La Communidad", comprende, vatos?.

Jackass liars, that LA RAZA.

"THE RACE"...>"THE RACE"...>"THE RACE"...>"THE RACE"...>"THE RACE"...>"THE RACE"...

25 posted on 07/16/2008 2:45:51 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Accepting the REALITY & trying to reverse America's slow global economic decline, is true patriotism)
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To: Bob J

No. My strategy for defeating them is to elect a POTUS that counts them as part of his F***ING BASE!


26 posted on 07/16/2008 8:26:30 AM PDT by Grunthor (Soon to be a major world religion.)
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27 posted on 07/16/2008 9:21:33 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: NormsRevenge

The Left is not a monolith by any means it is comprised of cults and NCLR is but one of many, it just happens to larger and louder than some of the failing, faultering ones like feminism. None of these cults could withstand any scrutiny or inquiry beyond what a Chrissy Matthews could give.


28 posted on 07/17/2008 8:33:32 AM PDT by junta (White liberals the soft underbelly of the fat pig known as the Democratic party. apologies to pigs)
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To: NormsRevenge
"The National Council of La Raza spends most of its time protecting and advancing the rights of Latinos through advocacy and community work."

Oh OK, So then by this logic having an advocacy group for whites that protects and advances the rights of whites should be just dandy to LaRaza or any of these other race based groups. I am beginning to wonder if many white Americans are just flat out stupid.

29 posted on 07/17/2008 8:37:40 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Travis McGee
Toro mierda. "Pueblo" means people, "communidad" means community, and "raza" means race.

?? "pueblo" is town. "gente" is people.

30 posted on 07/17/2008 9:30:48 AM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (If given a choice between a POW and a POS, I'll take the POW.)
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To: Bob J
So, many FReepers are therefore demanding they change their name to something like “Cute and Fluffy Hispanics for the Well Being and Happiness of Everyone”.

Many? Where?

31 posted on 07/17/2008 9:36:29 AM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (If given a choice between a POW and a POS, I'll take the POW.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Yup, the way "race", as a word, is used in the United States is different than the way "race", as a word, is used in Latin America.

That's because, as it turns out, the United states is NOT Latin America.

If they want to be here they've gotta' learn to use the language we use. Otherwise, they can go down home and use their own darned words their own way in their own place.

Until they figure out what to call their organization the rest of us will rightly consider it to be a virulently racist organization that hates Americans.

32 posted on 07/17/2008 4:09:11 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: Fundamentally Fair

“Pueblo” m people; common people; town or village

“Gente” f people; folks; race; nation

Switch gears to “town,” and you get poblacion; pueblo; villa in that order.

From my “The New College Spanish and English Dictionary”

Ever hear the chant, “!El pueblo, unido, nunca sera vencido!”? Google it, and get a million hits. There are semantic differences, but both pueple and gente mean people. And pueblo is also one of the words for town.


33 posted on 07/17/2008 5:41:39 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

Pueple? That’s a new one. Language shifting mid word.


34 posted on 07/17/2008 5:43:04 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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