I wonder why.
Posted on 07/15/2008 11:20:07 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
AMERICANS are sharply divided by race ahead of the first presidential election in which a black candidate will represent a major party, a New York Times/CBS News poll showed today,
The poll found that blacks and whites hold vastly different views of Sen. Barack Obama, an Illinois Democrat who would be the first black president, and are also divided on the state of race relations in the US, the newspaper reported.
In the survey, 83 per cent of blacks had a favorable opinion of Mr Obama, compared with 31 per cent of white voters.
Mr Obama will face John McCain, a white Republican senator from Arizona, in the November 4 presidential election.
On the status of race relations, 59 per cent of black respondents they were generally bad, compared with 34 per cent of whites who thought the same way.
The nationwide telephone poll of 1796 adults showed that 39 per cent of blacks said there had been no real progress in recent years in getting rid of racial discrimination.
Only 17 per cent of whites said the same thing.
Twenty-seven percent of whites said too much had been made of problems facing black people, while half of blacks said not enough had been made of racial barriers faced by black people.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...
How is it even possible Obama could be ahead in ANY poll if those numbers are accurate?
I wonder why.
I agree.
The racism in Obama's church, except for the color, was straight out of a 1930's Ku Klux Klan rally.
Indeed. Even in Cali or Hawaii you ain’t winning with a less than a third of the white vote.
How would it be possible to make more of the barriers faced by black people? White people are endlessly told that they are singularly responsible for any and all failures of blacks, and that modern whites are personally responsible for the slavery of hundreds of years ago. Decades of 'affirmative action' policies and programs have destroyed the careers and dreams of millions of qualified white people while pushing unqualified blacks into positions in academia and everywhere else in the job markets that they never would have achieved on the basis of their own merits. Schoolchildren are indoctrinated into a rigid pathology of white guilt beginning at Kindergarten, and uttering certain words can destroy your career and possibly cause you legal trouble if you're white, but are entirely acceptable to say if you are black.
How much further do white people need to bend over in an effort to accommodate and pay homage? What more can possibly be done?
The poll found that blacks and whites hold vastly different views of Sen. Barack Obama... 83 per cent of blacks had a favorable opinion of Mr Obama, compared with 31 per cent of white voters... On the status of race relations, 59 per cent of black respondents they were generally bad, compared with 34 per cent of whites who thought the same way. The nationwide telephone poll of 1796 adults showed that 39 per cent of blacks said there had been no real progress in recent years in getting rid of racial discrimination... Only 17 per cent of whites said the same thing. Twenty-seven percent of whites said too much had been made of problems facing black people, while half of blacks said not enough had been made of racial barriers faced by black people.the Buried Lead for today? 17 per cent of black voters didn't have a favorable opinion of Obama, and 69 per cent of white voters also didn't have a favorable opinion of Obama.
Boy! Who could have guessed..
The vast majority of blacks will readily admit they'll vote for Obama because he's black! THAT is RACISM..
Many whites will refuse to vote for him, due to his lack of experience, undemonstrated competence, suspicions about his racist and terrorist mentors, friends and supporters.
That is NOT racism - that is rational thinking.
Who says that a candidate can't get votes despite being rated "unfavorable"??? And who said they are distributed along Electoral lines.
Sen. Obama has surged ahead of Sen. McCain in key states such as PA and OH...and who knows what his favorable ratings are...I know that Sen. McCain's are low, too.
What a mess...bad candidates.
How about this one: Let's see what percentage of Armenians (just for example) think that Armenian problems are getting enough of the world's attention. Then let's poll the rest of the world as to whether the problems of Armenians are getting enough attention. Without any insight into the problems of Armenians, what do think the results would be?
btt
As much as I dislike McCain, Osama isn’t an option...
an arrogant, condescending elitist like B. (whose middle name must never be spoken) Obama,
his racist ex-pastor, close friend, mentor and spiritual advisor Rev. Wright,
and his arrogant, elitist, cocky, anti-American wife,,,
ARE THE RIGHT PEOPLE AT THE RIGHT TIME!!!
And the time to have found an alternative to McCain was in the primaries, not in the general.
This is strictly anecdotal on the subject "female"...A picture appeared in a recent Detroit News of a line of people waiting to get tickets for a Michelle Osama event in Pontiac, Michigan. There were approximately 20 people in the picture, not one of them was not africanhyphenamerican.
Ain’t that the truth!
He can’t reconcile his own biracial nature within his heart and soul and expects us to do so? Funny.
I don’t know a single white democrat who is voting for Obama. They all say he is a Muslim.
They don’t include a link to the poll. I’m guessing that the poll actually had 4 or 5 responses: Favorable, slightly favorable, slightly unfavorable, unfavorable. Something like that. Rasmussen polls favorability in that manner...I’d have to go over there to see exactly how he does it, but that’s in the ballpark.
I agree, however, that blacks in this country are not treated equally. I think we seriously injure any community by making government handouts available to those who have the capacity to work for their own living and establish their own independence.
The very best thing that could be done for the any race in America is to establish strict workfare for the unemployed and even for most of the disabled. We can complain about old programs like the CCC, but they did a lot of infra-structure work on smaller roads and bridges that was going undone.
This whining why Blacks have lost the race to be the number one minority, to Hispanics. The good news is that at some point Blacks will come to understand the reality of their position and start to turn themselves around.
I defy anyone to point to any genuine provable systematic racism in our public life. If Blacks whine for reparations they will fall still further behind. BTW America has already made reparations: From April 1861 to April 1865 the Union Army lost 77 dead a day everyday from combat actions.
..and if Obama loses, we can look forward to at least 3 months of scolding from the media on how racist we all are.
JF’inK lost because he was “swift boated”, a.k.a. as “truth was revealed.”
Obammy will lose because America is racist.
It all makes we want to retreat to and live in a heavily fortified cave.
It fascinates me how blacks continue to hold onto the racist theme of victimization by other races especially whites, which is their only path to success.
These people have almost 100% population in a whole continent - and yet they insist they are maltreated when mixing with whites.
I have never been able to figure them out. They continue to rely on whites for their definition of self.
Totally misguided.
Obuma is the racist and it is time the American people were informed of this dirty little secret. Hello RNC and Mr Mcain ? ? ?. Hire Mark Murphy and name Romeny as VP. At least Mitt will attack this muslim drug using fraud racist.
“The very best thing that could be done for the any race in America is to establish strict workfare for the unemployed and even for most of the disabled. We can complain about old programs like the CCC, but they did a lot of infra-structure work on smaller roads and bridges that was going undone.”
Agree completely! The problem is the inevitable problem of those who would compare it to slavery.
Having know people that worked in the CCC, it seems that it gave them a way to accept government assistance with dignity. That’s something that was important to that generation, but doesn’t seem to be so today.
Pride in “scamming the system” seems to have replaced that.
“and his arrogant, elitist, cocky, anti-American wife,”
You forgot “angry.”
“How much further do white people need to bend over in an effort to accommodate and pay homage? What more can possibly be done?”
White people aren’t bending anymore and this race nonsense has no where to go. The whites you speak of might publicly be contrite, but in private don’t care. I know I don’t.
This is English?
Good question.
Either those numbers are skewed, or Bambi is heading for a landslide defeat in November. I don't know of a state in the country where a 31% approval rating from whites gets you elected, let alone a national contest.
Yep, the Democraps are going to regret kicking Hillary aside.
It's called the Bradley effect.
Good question. I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that 99% of the MSM is in the tank for Bambi and most of the polling being done is being commissioned by the MSM, who then take the results and use them to propogandize for their candidate? Hmmm. I wonder?
Professional Victims
“How is it even possible Obama could be ahead in ANY poll if those numbers are accurate?”
Pollaganda polls must be dialing only New York city and Chicago? Whatever the reason, the media is desperately spinning on behalf of Obama and will find ways to inflate his support.
Obama is the least qualified and most extreme candidate *ever*. He would be an utter disaster.
The shock should not be the low ratings from whites, but why isnt it low across the board.
“How much further do white people need to bend over in an effort to accommodate and pay homage? What more can possibly be done?”
You ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.
Think of the ostracism forced upon the Jews in 1930’s Euorpe. They were regarded as an evil, wealthy minority conspiring to hoard control and power and keep gentiles down.
So it will be with the remaining Euro-Americans as their numbers decline in the decades to come, and as the demographics and influence of “minorities” in this country grow.
The whites will be branded with the same tack as were the Jews: racists forever, who - even as they decline in numbers - will cling to wealth and power, and “keep the people of color down”.
NO amount of “anti-racist” laws will correct this, for only whites can be racist, because that is part of their nature. As long as there are whites, there will be racism.
Thus, we will see an ever-increasing number of “hate crime laws”, “hate speech laws”, and ultimately “hate-thought laws” as well.
And the whites — well, heck, they’ll just put up with it and swallow it all down. It’s that “white guilt”, right?
Tell me personally: what would YOU do if someone called you “a racist”?
- John
(who has been called as much in this forum, but who no longer bears any white guilt and doesn’t care what he’s called...)
If they were serious, I'd laugh in their faces, then beg them to please sue me so that when they lose I can sue them for slander and defamation. If they don't want to do that, I'd invite them to please rent a fifty-ton crane to lift the giant chip off of their shoulders and to please calm down and not be quite so hysterically hypersensitive.
I'm not about to be intimidated by this on a personal level. Sadly, I'm forced to work in an environment that has been fully intimidated on a legal and professional level.
Where the "race thing" will really get him in trouble is in Pennsylvania and (possibly) Michigan.
I see more of a cultural Brazilification more than anything else: Whites (and many Asians, including East Indians) at the top, brown and white people in the middle-lower middle, blacks at the bottom. I hate to be so blunt, but those are my prognostications.
Language police!
Plenty of white Dems in Manhattan and here in New Jersey who are voting for Obama. I know that he got killed in the hebrew precincts in my state (Teaneck, Manalpan, Cherry Hill, etc.), but there are plenty of white Dems who are neither Jewish nor union members.
Besides, the large number of minorities will be voting for Obama. They and the sizeable number of white leftists that live in places like my area will put Obama over the top in New York and New Jersey.
Where Obama will run into trouble will be among the "bitter white" Democrats in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Ohio.
dittos
“I’m not about to be intimidated by this on a personal level. Sadly, I’m forced to work in an environment that has been fully intimidated on a legal and professional level.”
Same here. Can’t wait to get away from it!
- John
I find your prognostication very interesting because I’ve pondered these things over this past year since my eyes have been opened.
But I’m not entirely sure you’re spot on though. I say that because in colleges and in corporate America and in terms of business loans, they flat out discriminate against Euro-Americans. My nephew wanted to get a part-time job at Home Depot or Lowes I believe and my wife went online to look up their sites to help him. Good grief! You should have seen the “Diversity cra&” on those sites. This is what we’re up against.
Did you know there’s actually an organization called “CURE” that means Caucasions United for Reparations & Emancipation”?
Did you know that State Farm insurance supports a group called “The Richer Life” which is purposely trying to take let’s say an Italian neighborhood and turn it into Zimbabwe?
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