Posted on 07/16/2008 7:31:07 AM PDT by Wendolyn128
Joe Lieberman is enemy number one in the Democratic Party, at least among the netroot base which now appears to pull the strings. The netroots rounded up more than 45,000 signatures on a petition to strip him of his position as chair of Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs committees. As Robert Novak reported, Harry Reid is mulling over whether to kick Lieberman out of the Democratic caucus entirely if he speaks at the Republican convention on John McCain’s behalf.
By championing the surge, advocating for a robust national security, warning of the dangers of Iran’s state sponsorship of terror and nuclear development and lecturing his party on their errant ways, Lieberman has made himself into a major thorn in the Democrats’ side. When he invokes Democratic presidents of the past like FDR, Truman and Kennedy, his Democratic colleagues squirm. He hopes to reform his party and lead them back from the precipice of McGovernism and international retreat, but they aren’t much interested in that. They’re all in thrall to the MoveOn.org types.
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I like Joe Lieberman. He’s not afraid to go against the grain. He resists being herded with the rest of the Democratic cows. He thinks for himself.
Joe may be number 2. The truth is number 1. But no dem wants to know the truth so maybe Joe is number 1. I’ll get back to you all on this.
We would be a much safer country and democrats could still win their elections, if rather than sell us out they simply supported a strong American foreign policy no matter who is in office. But these are not smart or moral people.
Republican seeking approval of other side - maverick, good
Democrat seeking approval of other side - traitor, throw out
BS
He has an affable face and may even remind you of Alfred E. Newman (from Mad Magazine of your youth) but Joe is a hard core liberal except on the war. His record is damn near as bad as Hillary’s or Obama’s.
Just because he is attacked by the left doesn’t mean that he is any damn good. That is just their way of trying to bring him back into the fold.
The Liberal Left HATES Leiberman, because he has DARED to stand against the Socialists that have taken over the Party, and say “What the hell are you doing!”
The same applies to zell, though he discredited himself by being just a bit overzealous about it...
I remember when he first ran for Senator from Connecticut. I was absolutely baffled by the fact that we had a Conservative Democrat Lieberman running against a Liberal Republican in Lowell Weicker. I felt like the Aflac spokes-duck after his go-round with Yogi Berra.
He is one of very few people with a "(D)" after their name who I could support for high office. He did lose some points when he sold out some of his positions to be VP candidate for Algore back in Y2K, although his steadfast refusal to bow to the moonbat fringe hijacking the Dems is encouraging.
Liberman will surely speak at the R convention. I hope for Zell. The two of them could destroy Hussein
If they treat him bad enough, perhaps Joe Lieberman will start caucusing with the Republicans. Frankly I disagree with him about everything but the WOT, which means I agree with him about most of the things I care most about.
We could do a lot worse.
It wouldn't be much of a reformation. His only break with his party is on national security. Beyond that he's a true Liberal.
Maybe we can assemble a functional executive branch from the two of them.
Yes, I agree. He is his own man in many ways, and this is an admirable feat in Washington, DC.
Lieberman has been pretty solid on the war. And he has as much reason to be angry with the Dems as they are with him. They betrayed him first.
BUT. He is a flaming liberal on every other issue. Don’t be fooled. He is pro-abortion, pro gay rights, pro big spending on useless projects, and pro-every other leftist article of faith except the war on terror.
He scolded bill clinton for lying under oath, but he voted against impeachment just like every other Democrat in the Senate. And he’d be just delighted to wreck our economy over cap and trade if he had the chance.
Well, duh. If a senator who was part of the Republican caucus spoke at the Democratic convention on Barack Obama's behalf, the cries here demanding that he be kicked out would melt down the FR servers.
That's the Joe I know. No thanks.
I don’t care a fig for Lieberman, except as a human being. All talk. Blah blah blah Clinton, stay in office. Blah blah blah abortion, keep butchering the babies.
What’d Coulter say? Joe’s always wrestling with his conscience, and his conscience is always losing?
I don’t think I would mind that ticket. It might help McCain win, and I do think Lieberman thinks for himself and tries to do what is right. He’s wrong on a lot of things, but good character counts for a lot.
He, in spite of all this good is said of him, is a hard core liberal. Just supporting the war is not enough. His only thought would be, in case of war between Israel and Iran, is to get us involved. His ratted out on us by not caucusing with the Republicans in the Senate. Never forget that. We are living that RAT hell for years, and fear will never recover.
I have always liked Joe Lieberman even though he does have some very liberal positions. His character is good, and I think he would do the right thing for the country in a crisis and damn the pressure from liberal peers.
I don’t doubt you a bit.
I’m a realist. He is in almost all pictures of McCain all over the country. He is being used as prop to pry away the voters just to left of center.
My personal belief is that Liberman and Lindsey Grahm who also is with McCain a lot and is very vocal, will team up to wrest control of the Senate away from Reid.
McCain knows the Senate well and will use it as a tool to accomplish his agenda.
So, Jaun McCain is enemy number one in the Republican party. Join the crowd!
Good is bad and bad is a good democrat, I think, maybe not.....I'm sooo confused...
I don’t call it good character to know that something is wrong and yet to do it anyway, repeatedly. And that is the story of Joe Lieberman’s senate career, again and again.
He is about as faithful an Orthodox Jew as Mario Cuomo was a good Catholic.
He could even adopt Mario’s favorite motto: “I am personally opposed, BUT. . . .”
Or as BibChr points out, you could say that he is always wrestling with his conscience and always losing. One issue is not enough.
Lieberman isn’t going anywhere.
Connecticut is loaded with union-type democrats and RINOs. Lieberman is perfect for Connecticut.
then he ought to fit nicely into the Republican Party along side of Arlen Specter, Susie Collins, Dick Lugar and John McCain.
Yes, but if he gets kicked out of the democrat caucus, he could switch to republican and guess what? That shifts the senate majority to the republicans because right now, its 49-49 and 2 independents. Should Joe consider this move, it would be 50 repubs, 49 dems and 1 independent thus giving the republicans the majority and the leadership back! The press NEVER prints straight facts and this is one of them...the senate is very much split and it wouldn’t take too much to go either way. We’re sitting on a pack of dynamite with the oil drilling and gas prices and I sure hope the republicans strike the match and sets that dynamite off right under the dems who are blocking the drilling!
Don't be deluded into thinking this leftist is a closet conservative as his voting record proves otherwise.
What?
We'd have to suffer another RINO like the two from Maine, for example and the one from Virginia who wants to enact a 55-MPH speed limit to conserve oil rather than drill for it.
I am a pretty good intuitive judge of character and from what I know, Joe Lieberman is a good man. We just don't agree with his positions on several issues. I think that Lieberman will come around more and more to the right decisions in the future as his conscience finally wins. At least that is my optimistic assessment. I can't think of many Democrats who I can describe as having good character.
The key thing with Joe Lieberman is that he is a good man. Good men can be shown the light. Men who have sold their souls cannot.
Wow...beat me by 2 minutes on the same thought. Cool.
Which convention do you suppose Chuck Hagel will attend?
Which is why I can no longer tolerate having an “R” after my name. I switched after the primary to the Constitution Party. A party that can be home to the likes of those you mentioned cannot be home for me.
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