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CULTURAL DEVOLUTION.Some 16 of the 20 dirtiest cities in the world are located in China...
ncpa.org ^ | July 16, 2008

Posted on 07/16/2008 9:54:29 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch

China's devastating pollution problems aren't just taking a toll on China -- they're also affecting the rest of the world, says New Republic. For example:

Acid rain partly caused by Chinese sulfur emissions, pours down on Japan and South Korea. On some days, one-third of California's background air pollution -- consisting of dust, sulfur and trace metals -- can be traced back to China. Some 80 percent of the East China Sea, one of the world's largest fisheries, has become toxic, due to sewage dumps from the mainland. Even if the Chinese government does spruce up Beijing in time for the 2008 Olympics, the environmental situation in China remains horrifying, says the New Republic:

Some 16 of the 20 dirtiest cities in the world are in China. Studies have found that contamination in the air and water now costs China up to 10 percent of its gross domestic product (GDP) each year. A recent World Bank study estimated that pollution causes some 750,000 premature deaths in China each year. Toxic discharge from factories is turning rivers in China bright red or even black. Water shortages and rampant desertification are threatening to force tens of millions off their land. In 2006, China saw 60,000 pollution-related "incidents," a number of them turning violent. Source: Bradford Plumer, "Cultural Devolution," The New Republic, July 9, 2008.

For text:

http://www.tnr.com/story.html?id=9ef5103b-15cf-4bd6-b7a1-34940b9edeca&p=1

For more on Outdoor Air:

http://eteam.ncpa.org/issues/?c=outdoor-air

For more on Environment Issues:

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_Category=31


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; environment; food; freetrade; globalism; poison; trade

1 posted on 07/16/2008 9:54:29 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch

“A recent World Bank study estimated that pollution causes some 750,000 premature deaths in China each year. Toxic discharge from factories is turning rivers in China bright red or even black.”

And we’re eating their food. When you buy something that says ‘distributed by’ an American company, it’s usually Chinese or Mexican (another really CLEAN place!). NO, they don’t label where food is produced, thanks to our legislators.


2 posted on 07/16/2008 9:59:03 AM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Hard to believe that many on this site can envy the lack of environmental regulations found in China and other terd-world countries.


3 posted on 07/16/2008 10:09:36 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Realism

“other terd-world countries”

Are you in the Savage Nation?


4 posted on 07/16/2008 10:10:59 AM PDT by fishtank (FIRST defeat Obama. ------------------ THEN resist McCain. ---------- A good plan.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

I won’t visit THe New Republic to read the rest of the article. I’m curious where the other 4 of the twentiest dirtiest cities are. Were they part of the former Soviet bloc?


5 posted on 07/16/2008 10:11:15 AM PDT by philled ("I prefer messy democracy to the stability of tyrants." -- Howar Ziad, Iraqi Ambassador to Canada)
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To: fishtank
Are you in the Savage Nation?

No but I have Seneca Nation in my family tree.

6 posted on 07/16/2008 10:23:27 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Realism
I don't think the majority of conservatives oppose conservation efforts, or a highly limited government oversight of corporations when it comes to pollution. For example, I favor all sorts of "sunshine laws" that reveal who pollutes what, so the public can make its own choices.

There is a huge difference between limited conservation of a few national parks and the big brother environmentalism of the EPA and some of the other agencies. So I don't think anyone here wants China's "free market" approach to the environment; but at the same time no one wants the nanny state. A freER market will always produce a cleaner environment on the whole, despite some individual polluters.

7 posted on 07/16/2008 10:26:46 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: LS
I favor all sorts of "sunshine laws" that reveal who pollutes what, so the public can make its own choices.

Huh? Without Fed and State laws the "public" would be ants in a land of corporate giants.

8 posted on 07/16/2008 10:37:59 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Realism
You'd be amazed at how strong banks were, how well run railroads were before you had government "regulation." Funny thing, the public figures out the 'corporate giants' very quickly.

Look, for example, at the public reaction to Circuit City's maltreatment of its employees. Public reaction has pretty much finished that company.

9 posted on 07/16/2008 10:42:25 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Watermelons are “Green” on the outside, but “Red” on the inside.

Despite the collusion of the two groups, nobody has been worse for the environment than Communists. As much as “Green”’s bemoan capitalism, when you OWN something you make sure it is maintained. When everything is owned in common then get what you can get and let someone else clean up the mess.


10 posted on 07/16/2008 10:48:43 AM PDT by allmendream (If "the New Yorker" makes a joke and liberals don't get it, is it still funny?)
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To: Realism

Indeed.

One of the reasons China can produce things cheaper than we can is simply that they have no environmental laws to contend with.

This gives them a big competitive advantage, but at what cost?


11 posted on 07/16/2008 10:56:00 AM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: allmendream
Ever hear of a Brownfields Site and how many are in this non-communist country.
12 posted on 07/16/2008 11:06:52 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: allmendream
As much as “Green”’s bemoan capitalism, when you OWN something you make sure it is maintained.

And if you don't there's always the Superfund Act

13 posted on 07/16/2008 11:19:44 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Realism
Sure, if people can get away with passing the costs of their pollution on to the taxpayer they can and will. But we have laws and regulations and personal recourse to boycott or sue any company that we feel is polluting in our own backyard. Under Communism you could do nothing because the polluter was the government and any dissent and you were shot or sent to “re-education”.

Compared to the USA, which has been experiencing CLEANER air year after year; both China and Russia were absolute environmental basket cases.

14 posted on 07/16/2008 11:29:53 AM PDT by allmendream (If "the New Yorker" makes a joke and liberals don't get it, is it still funny?)
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To: allmendream
But we have laws and regulations and personal recourse to boycott or sue any company that we feel is polluting in our own backyard.

Recourse doesn't mean much when leukemia, asthma, and birth defects are the tell tale signs that somethings not right.

15 posted on 07/16/2008 11:53:33 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Realism
I never claimed our hands were absolutely clean on this issue, just a LOT cleaner than the Communists.

Do you claim that leukemia, asthma and birth defects are on the increase in the U.S.A.? Do you claim that pollution is on the increase? Do you have any evidence of either?

Do you think that Capitalism needs to be curtailed to ‘Save the Planet’?

16 posted on 07/16/2008 11:59:39 AM PDT by allmendream (If "the New Yorker" makes a joke and liberals don't get it, is it still funny?)
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To: allmendream
Watermelons are “Green” on the outside, but “Red” on the inside.

Kind of suggests that environmentalists are communists, right? The wacko's may just be, but each side has extremists.

Do you claim that leukemia, asthma and birth defects are on the increase in the U.S.A.? Do you claim that pollution is on the increase? Do you have any evidence of either?

No. How could it with all these damn regulations?

Do you think that Capitalism needs to be curtailed to ‘Save the Planet’?

Capitalism can accomplish anything we want it too, if its nudged in the right direction.

17 posted on 07/16/2008 12:21:08 PM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Realism
I am quite the nature guy conservationist myself. Something of a “crunchy-Con”. Not all Green's are “Watermelons” but those that are turn a blind eye to the environmental damage that Communism entails while doing everything they can to curtail capitalism.
18 posted on 07/16/2008 12:59:42 PM PDT by allmendream (If "the New Yorker" makes a joke and liberals don't get it, is it still funny?)
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To: allmendream
I agree, Im more into conservation than tree hugging, for example I had no problem dropping a whole row of large trees to get sun to my solar panels. Im sure many moonbats would consider that an outrage.
19 posted on 07/16/2008 1:12:54 PM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Realism
Trees grow back. The petrol we burn for the majority of our electricity doesn't.

I am for smart usage of our lands and resources, rather than a “hands off” approach.

I think most tree huggers are guilty of anti-technological mysticism such that they think a beaver's dam built for a beaver's purpose is a beautiful thing of nature that creates a pond or lake that benefits many other species; but a human dam built for human purpose is not natural and the resulting pond or lake “destroys” habitat.

20 posted on 07/16/2008 1:22:56 PM PDT by allmendream (If "the New Yorker" makes a joke and liberals don't get it, is it still funny?)
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To: allmendream
Im with ya. Earth is our playground and we should use all that it has to offer, but with respect and responsibility.
21 posted on 07/16/2008 7:35:50 PM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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