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Nisshinbo creates platinum-free carbon catalyst for fuel cells.
Monday, July 14, 2008 ^ | Monday, July 14, 2008 | ?

Posted on 07/16/2008 10:17:07 AM PDT by DGHoodini

Nisshinbo Industries Inc. (TSE:3105) has worked with the Tokyo Institute of Technology to develop the technology to use carbon instead of expensive platinum as the electrode catalyst for fuel cells.

The company hopes to have a practical version of the new catalyst ready in fiscal 2009, and will start by commercializing a product for the electrodes of residential fuel cells. Later, it will develop and commercialize a version for automotive fuel cells.

(Excerpt) Read more at tradingmarkets.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: advance; energy; fuelcell; hitech; platinum; power
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This could be big.
1 posted on 07/16/2008 10:17:07 AM PDT by DGHoodini
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To: DGHoodini

Very interesting.


2 posted on 07/16/2008 10:20:19 AM PDT by Mechanicos
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To: DGHoodini
In 5 to 10 years we'll have so many proven technologies to choose from we won't know what to do.

At least, when you read all these stories that's what they're telling us..

3 posted on 07/16/2008 10:20:23 AM PDT by ryan71 (Typical bitter white gun toter)
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To: DGHoodini
The company hopes to have a practical version of the new catalyst ready in fiscal 2009

In other words, this is vaporware. Next.

4 posted on 07/16/2008 10:22:55 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: DGHoodini

Indeed! Hugh and Series, too!

All kidding aside, if this pans out it just changed the whole energy equation.


5 posted on 07/16/2008 10:25:14 AM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: DGHoodini

This years jack-up of oil results in could move forward by years technology that will cause Saudi Arabia’s biggest export to be sand.


6 posted on 07/16/2008 10:31:53 AM PDT by AU72
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To: DGHoodini

Oh yes, now, as the article says, all that’s left is to develop the non-existent hydrogen fueling infrastructure.


7 posted on 07/16/2008 10:32:47 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: null and void

With the Platinum being a major part of the higher cost of a fuel cell vehicle, it still would surprise me, if using ten times more carbon in the catalyst, would come close to the 1/10th of the cost that using platinum does. I may be wrong, but I’m pretty sure carbon is a cheap and plentiful substance.


8 posted on 07/16/2008 10:36:00 AM PDT by DGHoodini (Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand)
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To: Old Professer

Everybody has hydrogen production capability. It’s called a battery, two electordes, and water.


9 posted on 07/16/2008 10:38:12 AM PDT by CyberSpartacus
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To: Old Professer

“hydrogen fueling infrastructure’

And it’s got be safe enuff so that doofusses like dynachrome won’t blow themselves and the neighborhood to bits!

(I’ve worked with hydrogen. I don’t like.)


10 posted on 07/16/2008 10:40:39 AM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right)
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To: Lancer_N3502A

ping


11 posted on 07/16/2008 10:41:25 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: DGHoodini

But yoy still have to split the H from the O2 and that takes energy.


12 posted on 07/16/2008 10:42:23 AM PDT by fella ("...He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: Old Professer

It begins with the first station, in the first pilot city.
And that has allready happened..in a couple of cities.
Sure you have yto have a supporting infrastructure, but then even horse driven cabs and the Overland and pony express, needed to build out their support structure.

There will be pilot cities, and the fuel cell cars will be sold there, then there will be highway corridors between the pilot cities...then there will be more cities and more corridors with hydrogen refilling stations...just the same way the original gas station networks were built up, only much, much faster.


13 posted on 07/16/2008 10:43:48 AM PDT by DGHoodini (Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand)
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To: fella

That’s what nuclear reactors are for. The new “pebble” reactors, are smaller, cheaper and faster to build, will use standard parts and a boilerplate design, so that any employee can go from one site to the next, and not have to re-learn everything,about the new plant, the way the ones we have now are, as they were all “custom built” and have many more faiilure points than the newer safer “pebble” reactors.


14 posted on 07/16/2008 10:48:47 AM PDT by DGHoodini (Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand)
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To: DGHoodini
This could be big.

Or not. Carbon has been used for a long time in electrode stacks. It's reducing the amount of expensive rare catalytic metals like platinum that's important and would bring these things into the affordable range.

There is a lot of research going on in this area and several different methods for reducing cost and improving electrode efficiency such as carbon nano tubes.

Direct methanol fuel cells will probably be the first fuel cells you see in autos because of their high power output- if they can get the cost of the fuel cell down.

15 posted on 07/16/2008 10:52:32 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: DGHoodini

I agree that nuclear is the way to go. Proven technology for sixty years. Once we have cheap and plentiful electricity again, we can free up natural gas for transportation fuel which is now being burned in powerplants, and petroleum for the petrochemical industry.


16 posted on 07/16/2008 10:55:36 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: AU72

The oil producing nations may be raking it in now, but that goose they’re savoring now..is their proverbial golden egg laying gander.


17 posted on 07/16/2008 10:59:30 AM PDT by DGHoodini (Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand)
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To: CyberSpartacus
"Everybody has hydrogen production capability. It’s called a battery, two electordes, and water."

Except it isn't cost effective. It takes more energy to make hydrogen than the energy produced by using that hydrogen in a fuel cell.

Methanol fuel cells are more cost effective because methanol is cheaper to produce.

using regular gasoline in a fuel cell would be even cheaper, but because "fossil" fuels has sulpher in it it poisons the cell eventually.

Why use gas in a fuel cell you say? because the fuel cell converts it into energy many times more efficiently than burning it does, and it does it much cleaner.

Methanol is a better fuel for a fuel cell because it has no sulfur in it.

18 posted on 07/16/2008 11:01:41 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: DGHoodini

I would have guessed 1/100th as much at Pt.

Carbon’s funny stuff. The price goes from about $300/ton to about $35,000,000,000/ton.

(Charcoal to diamond)...


19 posted on 07/16/2008 11:02:52 AM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: fella
But yoy still have to split the H from the O2 and that takes energy.

Yes, but there is value in converting from a wire tied to a fixed source to portable.

20 posted on 07/16/2008 11:04:54 AM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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