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Could your kids be given to 'gay' parents?
http://www.massnews.com/ ^ | Jully 2004 | Stephen Baskerville, Ph.D.

Posted on 07/16/2008 10:28:19 AM PDT by Maelstorm

In the debate over gay marriage, strikingly little attention has been paid to the impact on children. Some question the wisdom of having children raised by two homosexuals, but the best they can seem to argue is that serious flaws vitiate the literature defending it.

Almost no attention has been devoted to what may be the more serious political question of who will supply the children of gay "parents," since obviously they cannot produce children themselves. A few will come from sperm donors and surrogate mothers, but very few. The vast majority will come, because they already do come, from pre-existing heterosexual families. In Massachusetts, "Forty percent of the children adopted have gone to gay and lesbian families," according to Democratic state Sen. Therese Murray.

Sen. Murray seems totally oblivious to the implications. "Will you deny them their rights?" she asks. With some 3 percent of the population, gay couples already seem to enjoy a marked advantage over straight ones in the allocation of supposedly superfluous children.

But whose rights are being denied depends on how deeply we probe and what questions we ask. Granting gay couples the "right" to have children by definition means giving them the right to have someone else's children, and the question arises whether the original parent or parents ever agreed to part with them.

Not necessarily. Governments that kind-heartedly bestow other people's children on homosexual couples also have both the power and the motivation to confiscate those children from their original parents, even when the parents have done nothing to warrant losing them.

Sen. Murray formulaically asks us to take pity on "children who have been neglected, abandoned, abused by their own families." But this is far from the whole picture.

Ever since the federal government became involved in the child-abuse business some 30 years ago, governments nationwide have had the means and the incentive to seize children from their parents with no due process finding that the parents have actually abused their children. The 1974 Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act (CAPTA, also known as the Mondale Act) provides generous financial incentives to states to remove people's children under the guise of protecting them. In the aftermath of CAPTA, the foster-care rolls exploded, as children were torn from their parents and federal funds poured into state coffers and foster-care providers. According to the Child Welfare League of America, "There were many instances then, as now, of children being removed unnecessarily from families." Many foster homes were far more abusive than the families from which the children had been removed.

But the federal government, ever ready to create a new program to address the problems created by its existing programs, had a solution. The 1997 Adoption and Safe Families Act provided more federal money to transfer children from foster care into adoption, enlarging the client base of stakeholders with a vested financial interest in available children. Gay marriage expands this client base still further.

Howard Children Were Lucky

Among the states that have taken fullest advantage of this gravy train is Massachusetts. A typical case is that of Neil and Heidi Howard, whose children were seized by the state's Department of Social Services (DSS) with no charge of abuse against either parent and no evidentiary hearing. DSS tried to put the children up for adoption and were prevented only by lengthy court proceedings and extensive publicity in the Massachusetts News. Other families are not so fortunate.

This traffic in children has been in full flow since well before gay marriage. Belchertown attorney Gregory Hession alleges a "child protection racket" rife with "baby stealing and baby selling." Hession describes courts where the hallways are clogged with parents and children being adopted. "You could hardly walk. You had never seen such mass adoptions before." Reporter Nev Moore of the News describes the auction blocks for children operated by DSS:

If you prefer to actually be able to kick tires instead of just looking at pictures you could attend one of DSS's quaint "Adoption Fairs," where live children are put on display and you can walk around and browse. Like a flea market to sell kids. If one of them begs you to take him home you can always say, "Sorry. Just looking."

This is the bureaucratic milieu – largely hidden from all but those who must endure it – into which gay marriage advocates want to inject millions of new couples in search of children to adopt.

The number of truly abused children cannot begin to fill this demand without government help. We know that statistically child abuse in intact two-parent families is rare, and two-thirds of reports are never substantiated. Yet even in those instances of confirmed abuse, a little digging reveals the pernicious hand of the government generating business (and children) for itself.

Child abuse is overwhelmingly a phenomenon of single-parent homes. Government and feminist propaganda suggest that single-parent homes result from paternal abandonment. In fact, they are usually created by family court judges, who have close ties to the social service agencies that need children. By forcibly removing fathers from the home through unilateral or "no-fault" divorce, family courts create the environment most conducive to child abuse and initiate the process that leads to removal of the children from the mother, foster care, and adoption. Gay adoption is simply the logical culmination in the process of turning children into political instruments for government officials.

What this demonstrates is that same-sex marriage cannot be effectively challenged in isolation. Opponents must bite the bullet and confront the two evils that pose a far more serious and direct threat to the family than gay marriage: the child protection gestapo and the even more formidable "no-fault" divorce machine.

Failure to grasp this nettle will leave social conservatives exposed to ever more contempt from a public that is crying out for leadership to rescue the family but which has been led to view social conservatives, however unjustly, as puritanical bigots who want to deny equal rights to homosexuals – rights that entail powers of totalitarian dimensions, undreamed of before the sexual revolution.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: adoption; childabuse; cpswatch; divorce; homosexualagenda; judiciary; moralabsolutes
I was just doing some research and found this old article. I don't know what the current state of adoption is in Massachusetts but if it is still like this then there is certainly something amiss.

"In Massachusetts, "Forty percent of the children adopted have gone to gay and lesbian families," according to Democratic state Sen. Therese Murray.

Sen. Murray seems totally oblivious to the implications. "Will you deny them their rights?" she asks. With some 3 percent of the population, gay couples already seem to enjoy a marked advantage over straight ones in the allocation of supposedly superfluous children."

1 posted on 07/16/2008 10:28:20 AM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: Maelstorm

http://www.mass.gov/legis/member/t_m0.htm


2 posted on 07/16/2008 10:28:57 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Planning to lose is not a game plan.)
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To: Maelstorm

It’s common knowledge that homosexuals have more rights than the rest of us.

Isn’t it?


3 posted on 07/16/2008 10:33:31 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Maelstorm

I doubt there is going to be a study, ever, of what happens to the children of homosexual adoptive parents when they reach adulthood.

This being the case, I would suggest that those opposed to such practices start compiling lists of the names of homosexuals who adopt and their children. When their children are adults, they could be polled by indirect survey as to their current state of life and their opinions.

If done discreetly and objectively, this would in not too many years, provide a very clear analysis of the long term consequences of homosexual adoption, and potentially be a damning critique of it that could not be ignored.


4 posted on 07/16/2008 10:43:45 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Of course, because killing me because I’m straight is not a hate crime. But killing someone who is a homosexual is.

I am a computer programmer. If someone were to kill me, maybe it should be a hate crime. You know how those jocks hate us dweebs.


5 posted on 07/16/2008 10:45:15 AM PDT by rom (Real Conservatives don't vote for Socialists with an (R) next to their name.)
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To: Maelstorm

someday when conservatives are 3% of the population, then we get to call the shots, right 8-?


6 posted on 07/16/2008 10:46:30 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: Maelstorm
FWIW, I know a child (a boy) of a lesbian couple. Conceived by artificial insemination.

Dunno if it's nature or nurture, but that is one of the most messed up little boys I've ever seen.

7 posted on 07/16/2008 10:47:39 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Maelstorm
Homosexuals can have children any time they want, it does however mean they need a partner of the opposite sex. No one is rounding them up and sterilizing them to prevent them from having children.
8 posted on 07/16/2008 10:48:54 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Maelstorm

bttt


9 posted on 07/16/2008 10:51:20 AM PDT by JamesP81 (George Orwell's 1984 was a warning, not a suggestion)
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To: Maelstorm

This is the most serious case against gay marriage I’ve seen so far.


10 posted on 07/16/2008 10:57:42 AM PDT by wendy1946
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Do you mean that there aren’t enough children in foster homes to be adopted and the govt is going to confiscate our kids and give them to gay couples?


11 posted on 07/16/2008 10:59:45 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: Maelstorm

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=69693


12 posted on 07/16/2008 11:03:04 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

My ex sister-in-law is in a “marriage” with a woman who had been artificialy impregnated while she was in the midst of another lesbian coupling. After she left her gal pal for my SIL, they have coparented two young no teeenage boys. Having spent time with the boys, they seem very wel adjusted and normal on the surface but underneath there was a boiling cauldron of emotions. Whenever a father-child event happened at the school they would isolate me from their moms and beg me to accompany them to these functions. While they appeared to understand the role that their moms played they were definitely starved for a father figure in their lives. Unfortunately like a lot of lesbian relationships, their predominant peer group is almost exclusively female so these boys will latch onto any male showing them friendship or the guise of friendship.

Since my divorce I have not been permitted to have any interaction with the guys for the past 4 years and I have some real misgivings as to the state of their developmental health.


13 posted on 07/16/2008 11:18:58 AM PDT by Cyman
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To: stuartcr
Do you mean that there aren’t enough children in foster homes to be adopted and the govt is going to confiscate our kids and give them to gay couples?

Nobody wants the broken ones. I just did a quick google on the Howard case. Horrific.

14 posted on 07/16/2008 11:19:22 AM PDT by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: svcw

Adopting unwanted Chinese baby girls en masse would be far kinder (somewhat) than this article’s precept.
The FLDS raid in Texas earlier this year seems to support the premise of this article (take kids on no real evidence, put impossible conditions on the parents to they have no chance of getting them back).
We need an independant think tank review on if this is really happening.


15 posted on 07/16/2008 11:34:57 AM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: Maelstorm

Undoubtedly most prevalent in the blue states. The price to live in those states is much higher than excessive taxation and the restriction on Second Amendment rights.


16 posted on 07/16/2008 11:36:17 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: wendy1946

Protecting children is an aspect of SS marriage that needs to be discussed more often.


17 posted on 07/16/2008 12:33:57 PM PDT by TheDon
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When Catholic Charities was forced to give up its Adoption Ministry because they would not place children with Gay couples, the state had to start advertising that adoption was still an option in MA. Apparently those single mothers who wanted their children to have a family that looked like Jesus, Mary and Joseph would rather keep their child than give them to a home where there would be either no mother or no father. Because she’s already got a home with no father.


18 posted on 07/17/2008 10:47:20 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: TheDon

When Catholic Charities was forced to give up its Adoption Ministry because they would not place children with Gay couples, the state had to start advertising that adoption was still an option in MA. Apparently those single mothers who wanted their children to have a family that looked like Jesus, Mary and Joseph would rather keep their child than give them to a home where there would be either no mother or no father. Because she’s already got a home with no father.


19 posted on 07/17/2008 10:47:27 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: TheDon

When Catholic Charities was forced to give up its Adoption Ministry because they would not place children with Gay couples, the state had to start advertising that adoption was still an option in MA. Apparently those single mothers who wanted their children to have a family that looked like Jesus, Mary and Joseph would rather keep their child than give them to a home where there would be either no mother or no father. Because she’s already got a home with no father.


20 posted on 07/17/2008 10:47:30 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Maelstorm
Among the states that have taken fullest advantage of this gravy train is Massachusetts. A typical case is that of Neil and Heidi Howard, whose children were seized by the state's Department of Social Services (DSS) with no charge of abuse against either parent and no evidentiary hearing. DSS tried to put the children up for adoption and were prevented only by lengthy court proceedings and extensive publicity in the Massachusetts News. Other families are not so fortunate.

IIRC, I have read articles from the U.K. where this travesty of justice has exploded as well.

21 posted on 07/17/2008 10:52:16 AM PDT by sandyeggo
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If you prefer to actually be able to kick tires instead of just looking at pictures you could attend one of DSS's quaint "Adoption Fairs," where live children are put on display and you can walk around and browse. Like a flea market to sell kids.

Actually it sounds more like a slave auction in the old South.

22 posted on 07/17/2008 10:56:48 AM PDT by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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