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US Christian group boycotts McDonald's for association with gay organisation
Guardian.co.uk ^ | 7/15/2008 | Elana Schor

Posted on 07/16/2008 11:43:42 AM PDT by Oyarsa

US Christian group boycotts McDonald's for association with gay organisation

Elana Schor in Washington
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday July 15, 2008

The US Christian group that pressured Heinz to pull an UK commercial featuring two men kissing is now targeting McDonald's, accusing the fast-food chain of refusing "to remain neutral in the culture war".

The American Family Association began a boycott campaign against McDonald's in response to the company's membership in the Washington-based National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce (NGLCC).

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afa; association; boycott; homosexualagenda; mcdonalds; samesexmarriage

1 posted on 07/16/2008 11:43:42 AM PDT by Oyarsa
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To: Oyarsa

I guess McDonalds doesn’t care since they stand solidly behind their support of gays and lesbians. How this equates to being family oriented is beyond me. However, it does present reason to boycott them.


2 posted on 07/16/2008 11:49:02 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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To: Oyarsa

McDonalds....leaders in the industry for use of Mono Sodium Glumunate. They have a lot of wars going on many fronts. Just trying to keep gays happy, and not the Christians are wanting their share.


3 posted on 07/16/2008 11:49:09 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: taxesareforever

horrible ‘food’ is another reason to boycott them.


4 posted on 07/16/2008 11:52:53 AM PDT by xDGx
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To: Oyarsa

I’ve boycotted McDonalds for about 20 years simply because their food is crap.
Many years ago I got sick twice in a year eating at McDonalds and said enough was enough.
My wife and I will not take our nephews or grandchildren to a McDonalds. Too many real restaurants around...
That they would tie up with the homosexual agenda is not very surprising


5 posted on 07/16/2008 11:54:48 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Got Freedom ? Thank a Veteran...... Want to keep Freedom? Don't vote Obama)
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To: Oyarsa

I wonder if this will work as well as their boycott of Disney.


6 posted on 07/16/2008 11:55:48 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Phantom Lord

DOWN WITH THE CLOWN!


7 posted on 07/16/2008 11:56:53 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Oyarsa
So, one of the members of the board also has to be a member of this group and somehow, it is worth damning McDonalds over?

Great use of resources.

8 posted on 07/16/2008 12:00:16 PM PDT by mnehrling
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To: mnehrling

Who made a claim to be a member of any group?


9 posted on 07/16/2008 12:03:01 PM PDT by Oyarsa
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To: Oyarsa

I’ve been on a personal McDonalds boycott since I found a hair and a toenail in the eggs my Big Breakfast—which was supposed to be the huge breakfast or whetever (with pancakes), but they got the order wrong.


10 posted on 07/16/2008 12:05:55 PM PDT by Skooz (Any nation that would elect Hillary Clinton as its president has forfeited its right to exist.)
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To: mnehrling

I agree. I wish one of these people would explain one day what’s Christian about boycotting a business that doesn’t dislike the same people you do.

I’m sick of these busybodies carrying the flag for “family values.” I’m no libertine, but this is getting way out of hand.


11 posted on 07/16/2008 12:08:11 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Oyarsa
Who made a claim to be a member of any group?

This whole thing started when McDonald's board member Richard Ellis also took a position on the board of the NGLCC. From there, McDonalds was presumed guilty because of the associative actions of Ellis.

12 posted on 07/16/2008 12:14:27 PM PDT by mnehrling
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To: The Pack Knight
99% of the time, all these boycotts do is give more attention to whom they are boycotting. Remember the old Ellen controversy. Her show was funny, clean, and pretty much had average viewership. Then, she came out of the closet and groups like the AFA went ballistic calling for boycotts.

What was the result? Ellen's viewership went through the roof. The boycott prompted the writers to start adding an ‘agenda’ to the show’s message to counteract it, and Ellen is now one of the most successful comics out there.

13 posted on 07/16/2008 12:17:16 PM PDT by mnehrling
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To: mnehrling

You make the mistake of assuming that a boycott is always meant to hurt the company being boycotted. That isn’t necessarily so.

It’s usually just a way of recusing oneself from participating in the activity of the company.

Back in the 1980s, Levi Strauss pulled support for the Boy Scouts because if the Scouts’ stand on hiring homosexual Scout leaders. I decided to boycott Levis. I usually bought 8 - 10 pairs of jeans and a couple of Dockers a year.

My intent was not to try to hurt Levi Strauss (my miniscule purchases wouldn’t show as a blip on their radar) but I had the satisfaction of knowing that MY dollars would not go to them. I chose to spend MY dollars elsewhere. That’s the deal.


14 posted on 07/16/2008 12:26:22 PM PDT by Skooz (Any nation that would elect Hillary Clinton as its president has forfeited its right to exist.)
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To: Skooz
My comment isn't levied against the individuals who take part in boycotts but on groups who promote boycotts. Many times, this is part of the financial structure of these groups. They existence is finding issues to promote boycotts over. The result is more often than not, the exact opposite of what they claim. They often give more attention to those who are being boycotted. It is rewarding the behavior of doing things that are controversial.

It is the Pavlov's dog of marketing.

15 posted on 07/16/2008 12:44:15 PM PDT by mnehrling
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To: mnehrling

In the list of things undermining the American family, I’d put gays near the bottom. In fact, I’d put ninny organizations like AFA screaming about minutia like this in the name of “family values” above them in that list.

If AFA wants to play Jesse Jackson and use publicity stunts to extort business and scare people into donating to them, then that’s their prerogative. I just wish they’d leave Christ out of it.


16 posted on 07/16/2008 12:47:14 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Oyarsa
"...McDonald's chief diversity officer Pat Harris wrote to AFA founder Donald Wildmon in May."

There's your problem in a nutshell. Any institution that reduces itself to even having a "chief diversity officer" is on its way down the PC side on a rocket sled. I've purchased my last quarter pounder until old Micky D comes to their senses and puts an end to this insanity.

17 posted on 07/16/2008 12:53:26 PM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: Desron13

Boycott them until they close their doors.


18 posted on 07/16/2008 12:59:21 PM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: Oyarsa

The American Family Association = A white version of the Rainbow Coalition.

I’m glad to finally see the veneer coming off these “Christian” groups. Gotta pass judgment and punish those “sinners”. Organize and attempt to hurt anyone who fails to eschew the proper dogma.

The more I read from the AFA, the more I walk away from modern Christianity. Bossy-assed purists.


19 posted on 07/16/2008 1:47:52 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: bmwcyle

“Boycott them until they close their doors.

The day those wipes at AFA have the power to shut down McDonalds is the day I leave this country to the zealots and ya’ll can sit around circle-jerking deciding who hates fags more.

I’m sure there’s nothing many FReepers would like more than FR-type purge of America where nobody is left but zealots and their moron followers.


20 posted on 07/16/2008 1:53:29 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: rovenstinez

Sadly, I had to give up Doritos because they are just swimming in MSG.


21 posted on 07/16/2008 1:56:51 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

When I was in Jamaica, there was a store selling actual MSG in packages. I shoulda bought one just to have.


22 posted on 07/16/2008 3:55:29 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: L98Fiero

Bye - Bye, you first


23 posted on 07/16/2008 4:19:18 PM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: Phantom Lord

I am sure that you can get it here, as most restaurants and such can get it as an ingredient.


24 posted on 07/16/2008 5:11:04 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: mnehrling
Then, she came out of the closet and groups like the AFA went ballistic calling for boycotts. What was the result? Ellen's viewership went through the roof.

Um... No, "Ellen" got canceled. Don't you remember the little crying tantrum she threw after the incident, accusing the "haters" of doing this? She just found another venue that was more gay-friendly and more immune from Christian values groups. Like all of t.v. today.

25 posted on 07/16/2008 8:18:09 PM PDT by fwdude (If marriage can mean anything, then marriage means nothing.)
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To: mnehrling

Mnehrling,

Thanks for qualifying; when you used the “board” generally, I assumed you meant “discussion board”; i.e. FR. My mistake. :)


26 posted on 07/17/2008 8:35:51 AM PDT by Oyarsa
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To: taxesareforever
Given the McDonald's has affiliated itself with an organization promoting same-sex marriage, it has a lot to do with the family.

If you want to promote sexual perversion, I think you're at the wrong website.

27 posted on 07/17/2008 9:21:15 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: The Pack Knight
I wish one of these people would explain one day what’s Christian about boycotting a business that doesn’t dislike the same people you do.

If you can't figure out that the homosexual agenda is being used as battering ram to oppress free speech, freedom of religion and freedom of association worldwide and this country as well as being used to assault how marriage is defined, you're ignorant.

All the AFA is asking is for McDonald's to remain neutral on the issue rather than contributing to organizations promoting same-sex marriage and the homosexual agenda.

28 posted on 07/17/2008 9:36:33 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: mnehrling
99% of the time, all these boycotts

That's why both Disney and Ford both suffered significant declines during the AFA boycotts? That's why Wal-Mart almost immediately agreed to the AFA's conditions when threatened with a boycott?

29 posted on 07/17/2008 9:39:26 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: mnehrling
This whole thing started when McDonald's board member Richard Ellis also took a position on the board of the NGLCC. From there, McDonalds was presumed guilty because of the associative actions of Ellis.

Get your facts straight, it was McDonald's that paid to put Ellis on the NGLCC board.

The NGLCC frequently lobbies Congress on same-sex "marriage" and other aspects of the homosexual agenda.

So, tell us why you think McDonald's should be siding with organizations trying to redefine what marriage is and push a homosexual agenda that is striping away basic rights in this country without any consequences from those not wanting marriage redefined or their freedoms being taken away.

30 posted on 07/17/2008 9:50:06 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: taxesareforever
How this equates to being family oriented is beyond me.

I think it stems from the '70s and '80s expansion of the definition of family to include virtually any combination of adults and children living together (a sort of Orwellian definition of family). We moved away from nuclear and extended families a long time ago, and the slippery slope has led us to gay "marriage".

31 posted on 07/17/2008 10:03:22 AM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: L98Fiero

I can feel the love...


32 posted on 07/17/2008 1:01:50 PM PDT by polymuser (Those who believe in something eventually prevail over those who believe in nothing.)
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To: L98Fiero
The day those wipes at AFA have the power to shut down McDonalds...

I'm on record above and in the past as stating these boycotts are ineffective and a waste of Christian's time, however, the principle here is not the AFA lobbying for government regulation, they are working through the channels of the free market and giving information to consumers to make a free choice. Not much different than if you decided to post idiotic things the AFA does so Christians don't join this group. That is the power of the free market. I would much rather the country work like this on issues than the government go around making laws on everything. Again, I think boycotts are, for the most part ineffective (or even counterproductive) and a waste of Christian's time, however, at least issues are staying in the free market versus in D.C.

The day the government starts back using the law outlawing this, I may join ya. But until then, let the free market work it out.

33 posted on 07/21/2008 7:53:04 AM PDT by mnehrling
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To: Oyarsa
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I'm certain that the lefties would love nothing better than ‘good men to do nothing’ while they hijack our country.

34 posted on 07/30/2008 5:14:20 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (The Dum-bama Banking Committee offers free breathalysers for asthmatics in 58 states.)
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To: Oyarsa

The McDonald’s in this area are owned by a very Christian family. They have a statue of Christ on a horse bearing his sword with four plaques with scripture on the base of the statue.

Additionally, when Hurricane Charlie came through, they were the ONLY place open, and they served everyone with an amazing sense of humor and grace. There’s no way I’d boycott my local Mickey D’s.


35 posted on 07/30/2008 5:19:59 AM PDT by Bat_Chemist (Love without truth deceives. Truth without love destroys.)
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