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World Court seeks to block 5 U.S. executions
ScotusBlog ^ | July 16, 2008 | Lyle Denniston

Posted on 07/16/2008 4:01:42 PM PDT by HAL9000

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Acting on a claim by Mexico’s government that the U.S. government has not done enough to assure the treaty rights of Mexican nationals facing execution for murders in the U.S., the World Court on Wednesday ordered the U.S. — by a 7-5 vote — to stop five imminent executions in Texas.

Leaving it up to the U.S. to choose the way to carry out the order, the international tribunal — formally, the International Court of Justice that sits in The Hague, Netherlands — told the U.S. only to “take all measures necessary to ensure” that Texas does not execute five individuals on its death row.

The World Court issued its order to assure that the Mexicans remain alive until the tribunal can resolve a new dispute over the global obligations of the U.S. government — a dispute that has already led to two decisions by the U.S. Supreme Court.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; biteme; capitalpunishment; globalism; hague; icj; immigrantlist; sovereignty; worldcourt

1 posted on 07/16/2008 4:01:43 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
Bring back public executions.

Use illegals to build the scaffold.

2 posted on 07/16/2008 4:04:17 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: HAL9000

The World Court can shove it.


3 posted on 07/16/2008 4:04:24 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: HAL9000

The Hague - that’s the court the liberals over at DU and DK gush over. They want to send Bush there to be convicted of “war crimes”.


4 posted on 07/16/2008 4:05:00 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Don't blame me, I supported Duncan Hunter.)
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To: HAL9000

We owe the World Court nothing.


5 posted on 07/16/2008 4:05:40 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: HAL9000

Stay the executions, and then stage an “accident.”


6 posted on 07/16/2008 4:07:13 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Bulls and bears make money. Pigs get slaughtered.)
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To: HAL9000

Sorry “World Court”.We have a judicial system that works just fine without your learned advice.But thanks anyway.


7 posted on 07/16/2008 4:08:00 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The problem with the rat race is,even if you win you're still a rat.)
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To: HAL9000

Well now maybe the World Kangaroo Court will send in UN troops to stop it........and Im sure fine Americans will give them a nice welcoming...........


8 posted on 07/16/2008 4:08:11 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: HAL9000

Maybe the world court will send the world police to America to stop us.

No wait... America is the world police.

Shove it world court.


9 posted on 07/16/2008 4:08:31 PM PDT by Liberty 275
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To: HAL9000

Dear World Court,

Go —— yourselves.

Best,
Richard B. Cheney

cc: George W. Bush


10 posted on 07/16/2008 4:08:32 PM PDT by Christian4Bush ("Attention stattions: the heavenly edition of the Tony Snow Show is now on the air. Woof.")
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To: HAL9000

F the world, well most of it.


11 posted on 07/16/2008 4:08:36 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: HAL9000

Texas and Texans to the World Court...GTH!


12 posted on 07/16/2008 4:13:50 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: rrrod
will send in UN troops to stop it........

UN troops to Texas to tell them how to run their affairs?

"Behind every blade of grass is........."

13 posted on 07/16/2008 4:14:31 PM PDT by TYVets
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To: rrrod
Well now maybe the World Kangaroo Court will send in UN troops to stop it

Good one. The UN force without the US couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. Hope Texas getter-done, box up the body bags, and send it to the UN.

14 posted on 07/16/2008 4:14:53 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: HAL9000

The dispute is resolved to our satisfaction, the executions will go forward in a manner consistent with Texas law.

It is Mexico’s misfortune that that is not also to their satisfaction, but I suggest that they worry more about the mass slaughter of their own police officers, about which we read daily in the news, it seems.

A country which cannot maintain the rule of law within its own borders has nothing to teach us about the rule of law within ours. It’s attempts to interfere are deeply resented by decent Americans.


15 posted on 07/16/2008 4:15:13 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Democratic Underground: Ever wonder where all those who took the brown acid at Woodstock wound up?)
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To: HAL9000

Not a peep from the World Court when these convicted murderers were executing their victims...


16 posted on 07/16/2008 4:19:18 PM PDT by CGTRWK
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To: HAL9000

I’d be interested to read what some of our legal scholars have to say about this.

It seems to me that the World Court might have a voice if the United States were the entity that is carrying out these executions. But the entity is the State of Texas. I would think the World Court has no jurisdiction over this.

What say y’all?


17 posted on 07/16/2008 4:20:38 PM PDT by wolfpat (If you don't like the Patriot Act, you're really gonna hate Sharia Law.)
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To: Liberty 275
Maybe the world court will send the world police to America to stop us.

No wait... America is the world police.

Shove it world court.

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18 posted on 07/16/2008 4:23:17 PM PDT by Christian4Bush ("Attention stattions: the heavenly edition of the Tony Snow Show is now on the air. Woof.")
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To: HAL9000
the World Court on Wednesday ordered the U.S. — by a 7-5 vote — to stop five imminent executions in Texas.

What would be the legal US process by which the World Court can "order" anything in the US? I'm a citizen of the US, and subject to it's laws. I don't recall signing up to become subject to the whims of some kangaroo court presided over by "judges" from banana republics and tinpot dictatorships.
19 posted on 07/16/2008 4:24:17 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: wastedyears

Didn’t Ruth Bader Ginsburg use a World Court ruling or other international ruling in one of her anti-US SCOTUS decisions not long ago?


20 posted on 07/16/2008 4:25:40 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
What would be the legal US process by which the World Court can "order" anything in the US?

As I've had a few drinks it's easier to state something like, I would like for them to send UN "troops" to enforce their ruling.

I would like the opportunity to defend my Nation. Probably wouldn't get a chance though, State Dept. would have issue permits via lottery and there'd be a qty limit and all.

Prolly would be reduced to poaching, tape flashlight to my 12guage, set out a feed pile (illegal aliens) and sit back and wait

21 posted on 07/16/2008 4:32:20 PM PDT by NativeSon (off the Rez without a pass...)
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To: HAL9000

I wonder how many citizens would volunteer to defend our country and be the executioner of these illegals?


22 posted on 07/16/2008 4:40:27 PM PDT by CalifChris
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To: Liberty 275
"...America is the world police..."

And they better not forget it...

23 posted on 07/16/2008 4:40:30 PM PDT by rlmorel (Clinging bitterly to Guns and God in Massachusetts...:)
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To: HAL9000

What the h*%% is the World Court and why should they be deciding anything for the US?


24 posted on 07/16/2008 4:46:36 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: HAL9000
the World Court on Wednesday ordered the U.S. — by a 7-5 vote — to stop five imminent executions in Texas.

This is a smoking gun for those that dispute the idea that a global government is in the making.
25 posted on 07/16/2008 4:49:28 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Don't cheer for Obama too hard - the krinton syndicate is moving back into the WH.)
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To: skeeter

Guess the “world court” never heard the true saying...DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS. Guess that’s why Mexico is snivelling to them, not Texas. They found out the hard way!


26 posted on 07/16/2008 4:50:31 PM PDT by 1ofmanyfree ((No jobs, licenses,mortgages,bank accounts or amnesty for any illegal alien criminals ! ))
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To: HAL9000
Don't mess with Texas.
Even without aircraft carriers and smart bombs, Texas can take on Holland with one arm tied behind their backs.

Those crazy Dutch better mobilize their military forces "toot sweet."

27 posted on 07/16/2008 4:50:40 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: HAL9000

Hmm...in retaliation I order the World Court to sign the thing with a quill pen clutched between the cheeks of their collective buttocks. And I got jurisdiction, too.


28 posted on 07/16/2008 4:57:33 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: HAL9000
Anyone here who is Catholic and supports the death penalty, you might want to read the Catechism of the Catholic Church again. It clearly states that the death penalty is only moral if there is absolutely no other way of protecting society from the convicted individual. In the modern world, such cases are exceedingly rare, if not non-existent.

From the Catechism:
"Assuming that the guilty party’s identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor.

If, however, non-lethal means are sufficient to defend and protect people’s safety from the aggressor, authority will limit itself to such means, as these are more in keeping with the concrete conditions of the common good and are more in conformity with the dignity of the human person.

Today, in fact, as a consequence of the possibilities that the state has for effectively preventing crime, by rendering one who has committed an offense incapable of doing harm—without definitively taking away from him the possibility of redeeming himself—the cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity "are very rare, if not practically non-existent" (Evangelium Vitae 56)."

29 posted on 07/16/2008 5:02:48 PM PDT by chihiro
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To: Billthedrill

I would pay money to see that!


30 posted on 07/16/2008 5:03:39 PM PDT by Appleby
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To: HAL9000

Screw the world court. These scumbags came to this country and violated our laws, not the world court’s.


31 posted on 07/16/2008 5:11:55 PM PDT by MissEdie (On the Sixth Day God created Spurrier)
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To: rrrod
Well now maybe the World Kangaroo Court will send in UN troops to stop it........and Im sure fine Americans will give them a nice welcoming...........

You can bet that we will.

32 posted on 07/16/2008 5:20:07 PM PDT by jerry639
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To: HAL9000

I am no Texan, but I personally know about 50 Texans.

God is the ONLY one that can tell a Texan what to do....nobody else should even try. ;>)

World Court...what a joke.


33 posted on 07/16/2008 5:28:34 PM PDT by Gator113 (Drill here, drill now...... or die.)
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To: HAL9000

Time to serve a writ of Shut the Hell Up to the World Court.


34 posted on 07/16/2008 5:41:29 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: chihiro

Hmmm, thanks for the reminder, I guess.

I am a fallen away Catholic. I started to look at it again, back when the Pope was here. There are several things about the religion that has bothered me and you have reminded me of yet another. I am thinking more and more that there just isn’t a religion out there for me.

Anyway, thanks for your post.


35 posted on 07/16/2008 5:43:05 PM PDT by Gator113 (Drill here, drill now...... or die.)
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To: chihiro
the death penalty is only moral if there is absolutely no other way of protecting society from the convicted individual

I think the threat of escape or parole and murder again means there IS no other way to protect society except execution.

The conditions stated as a requirement for the death penalty are more common than the Catholic church would admit I think. Of course what do I know? I'm not Catholic.

36 posted on 07/16/2008 5:56:46 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: wolfpat

Bush, of course, has traditionally taken the Mexican side, while the Supreme Court sided with Texas in Medellin.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/03/25/scotus.texas/


37 posted on 07/16/2008 7:09:41 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: HAL9000
Hey world court

Screw You!!

38 posted on 07/16/2008 7:16:31 PM PDT by BBell
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To: wastedyears

“The World Court can shove it.”

Actually, the U.S. doesn’t regard International Court for Justice (World Court) decisions as binding, which is a politer way of saying that.


39 posted on 07/16/2008 7:26:55 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
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To: rabscuttle385
Absolutely not.

We should parade these murderers out into the light of day, line them up against a wall and shoot them while high definition cameras are rolling, recording every second of the firing squad.

Then we send copies of the videos to the world court judges with a stern warning the same thing awaits anyone who makes any attempt to interfere with our sovereignty.



I know, I know, but I can at least dream our leaders are men once more...

40 posted on 07/16/2008 7:27:29 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: Christian4Bush
cc: George W. Bush

Yeah right. Bush was origially the one who told Texas to follow the World Court's ruling and ordered Texas to review Jose Medellin's case. Thankfully the U.S. Supreme Court smacked him down.

Story:

"U.S. President George Bush directed state courts to abide by the world court's decision and specifically asked Texas to review the Medellin case.

But, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Bush couldn't compel Texas to review the situation without concurrence of the legislative branch."

Source

41 posted on 07/18/2008 5:54:51 AM PDT by Baron OBeef Dip
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To: Baron OBeef Dip
cc: George W. Bush

Yeah right. Bush was origially the one who told Texas to follow the World Court's ruling and ordered Texas to review Jose Medellin's case. Thankfully the U.S. Supreme Court smacked him down.

If you reread the post, Beef Dip, the hypothetical letter was written by Cheney and CC'd to President Bush.

You do know that CC means "courtesy copy" or "carbon copy", right? Operative word, "COPY", not that the letter was addressed to that person?

Or were you so quick, panting to the point of soiling yourself, to tell me something that I already know, that your brain and keystrokes didn't engage properly?

42 posted on 07/18/2008 9:44:12 AM PDT by Christian4Bush ("Attention stattions: the heavenly edition of the Tony Snow Show is now on the air. Woof.")
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To: Christian4Bush

If you knew it already, why are you acting like such a baby about my post?


43 posted on 07/18/2008 11:00:30 AM PDT by Baron OBeef Dip
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