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Obama says time to rid world of nuclear weapons
Cnn.com ^ | July 16, 2008 | Alexander Mooney

Posted on 07/17/2008 6:57:22 AM PDT by ReagansShinyHair

WEST LAFAYETTE, Indiana (CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama on Wednesday said he wants to rid the world of nuclear weapons and pledged to fight emerging threats posed by biological and cyber-terrorism.

It's time to send a clear message to the world: America seeks a world with no nuclear weapons," the White House hopeful said.

"As long as nuclear weapons exist, we'll retain a strong deterrent. But we'll make the goal of eliminating all nuclear weapons a central element in our nuclear policy."

The remarks, delivered at Purdue University in Indiana before a roundtable discussion with foreign policy experts, come as the senator from Illinois is preparing for a trip abroad. Obama also is seeking to gain traction on national security issues.

In a fact sheet distributed to reporters, Obama's campaign said he will work to eliminate all nuclear weapons, but will not commit the United States to giving them up while other states retain them.

Going after one of John McCain's signature issues, the war in Iraq, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee said invading the country after the September 11, 2001, attacks has allowed other emerging threats to develop

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; cicobama; clueless; foreignpolicy; nationalinsecurity; nuclear; obama; proliferation; unfit; war
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1 posted on 07/17/2008 6:57:22 AM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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To: ReagansShinyHair
As Thomas Paine once said when confronted with the same delusion of getting rid of the arms of his day, in the 1770s...

...but since some will not, we dare not."

What Obama really means is that the US needs to get rid of its nuclear weapons, which of course will put us at the mercy of our enemies.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

2 posted on 07/17/2008 6:59:49 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: ReagansShinyHair

Didn’t Superman already try to do this?


3 posted on 07/17/2008 7:00:37 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: ReagansShinyHair

If that man becomes President we will not survive until Dec 21, 2012.


4 posted on 07/17/2008 7:00:57 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Freerepublic.com baby)
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To: Dixie Yooper

That was a terrible movie.


5 posted on 07/17/2008 7:02:21 AM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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To: mware

That is what makes it so scarey. Everything falling in line for a big show on Dec 21,2012. I believe this man is the biggest threat to the US and maybethe world, we have ever seen.


6 posted on 07/17/2008 7:03:02 AM PDT by crazydad
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To: ReagansShinyHair

Yeah, and Obama is going to rid the world of all sharp objects and we will live in a world with nothing but lemon drops and gum drops.


7 posted on 07/17/2008 7:05:49 AM PDT by Obadiah (I remember when the climate never changed, then Bush stole the election.)
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To: ReagansShinyHair

8 posted on 07/17/2008 7:06:59 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: ReagansShinyHair

What did the Soviets call the Obamas of the world? “Useful fools?”


9 posted on 07/17/2008 7:07:12 AM PDT by TFMcGuire (Either you are an American, or you are a liberal)
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To: ReagansShinyHair

And this would be somehow different than ?????????????????????????????????????


10 posted on 07/17/2008 7:08:48 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("Are you saying Jesus can't hit a curve ball? - Harris to Cerrano - Major League)
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To: ReagansShinyHair
Does one spell naive with or without the little ' at the end?
11 posted on 07/17/2008 7:08:56 AM PDT by aShepard (Loose lips Sink ships)
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To: ReagansShinyHair

And after that maybe he can get rid of disease and bad weather, too.


12 posted on 07/17/2008 7:08:56 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ReagansShinyHair

Obama wants to DESTROY our national defense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs&feature=related

He is not just stupid, he is dangerous.


13 posted on 07/17/2008 7:09:02 AM PDT by freespirited (Never vote for a man who gets his nails done.)
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To: ReagansShinyHair

I can’t decide. Is an Obama presidency going to be more like 1984 or ...1985

“We are the World”
Michael Jackson/Lionel Richie, 1985

There comes a time
When we head a certain call
When the world must come together as one
There are people dying
And it’s time to lend a hand to life
The greatest gift of all

We can’t go on
Pretneding day by day
That someone, somewhere will soon make a change
We are all a part of
God’s great big family
And the truth, you know love is all we need

[Chorus]
We are the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day
So let’s start giving
There’s a choice we’re making
We’re saving our own lives
It’s true we’ll make a better day
Just you and me

Send them your heart
So they’ll know that someone cares
And their lives will be stronger and free
As God has shown us by turning stone to bread
So we all must lend a helping hand

[Chorus]
We are the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day
So let’s start giving
There’s a choice we’re making
We’re saving our own lives
It’s true we’ll make a better day
Just you and me

When you’re down and out
There seems no hope at all
But if you just believe
There’s no way we can fall
Well, well, well, well, let us realize
That a change will only come
When we stand together as one

[Chorus]
We are the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day
So let’s start giving
There’s a choice we’re making
We’re saving our own lives
It’s true we’ll make a better day
Just you and me


14 posted on 07/17/2008 7:09:04 AM PDT by wilco200 (Typical White Person)
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To: Obadiah

You can choke on lemon drops. Those are out, too.


15 posted on 07/17/2008 7:09:48 AM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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To: ReagansShinyHair

We need to rid the world of mean thoughts as well.


16 posted on 07/17/2008 7:10:35 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running. FREE LAZAMATAZ)
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To: freespirited
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"ISLAM ISN'T IN AMERICA TO BE EQUAL TO ANY OTHER FAITH, BUT TO BECOME DOMINANT. The Koran ... should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth. Everthing we need to know is in the Koran. We don't need to look somewhere else." OMAR M. AHMAD, CHAIRMAN OF CAIR___________________________________________________________________ From ‘The Audacity Of Hope, "I WILL STAND WITH THEM (MUSLIMS) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
17 posted on 07/17/2008 7:17:27 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: ReagansShinyHair

Give old Slick some credit....he did equate Oblama with ‘fantasy’. It would be wonderful to live in a world with no nuclear weapons (fantasy). However there is no way ALL of the world’s nations will surrender their nukes (reality). President Reagan said it best, “Peace through strength”.


18 posted on 07/17/2008 7:18:08 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: ReagansShinyHair

Obama’s trying to piggy-back on decades of work by Senator Dick Lugar.

What a joke.


19 posted on 07/17/2008 7:20:19 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: patriot08

My hands sweat just looking at that picture.


20 posted on 07/17/2008 7:20:19 AM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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To: TFMcGuire

Obama, “The Useful Idiot.”

The Chinese government must be howling with laughter over this fool.


21 posted on 07/17/2008 7:20:30 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: ReagansShinyHair
If guns are banned, only criminals will have guns! If nukes are banned, only (*fill in blank) will have nukes!

*Suggestions for blank: Iran, Pakistan, Syria, North Korea, Al Qeida, Indian Islamofacists, old Soviet communists, Chicoms, etc.*)

22 posted on 07/17/2008 7:20:55 AM PDT by meandog (please pray for future President McCain, day minus 189 and counting)))
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To: tflabo
The only way the world will be without nukes is if this happens.

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23 posted on 07/17/2008 7:23:38 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Freerepublic.com baby)
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To: ReagansShinyHair

>>>he will work to eliminate all nuclear weapons, but will not commit the United States to giving them up while other states retain them.<<<

And there’s the rub, Barry.


24 posted on 07/17/2008 7:28:59 AM PDT by angkor (Conservatism is not now and never has been a religious movement.)
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To: Dixie Yooper

I wonder how Osama bin Idiota will accomplish the feat of ridding the world of nukes? Wow! The guy is better than Superman and every US leader since 1950. He’s in dreamland or still on crack. I’ve never read such idiocy expressed by a candidate before, so it must be crack that muddles his mind.


25 posted on 07/17/2008 7:29:19 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: Jeff Head
I wonder if the eventual atheist Tom Paine who would write "The Age of Reason" and propose a socialist death tax was likely only 20 years earlier to pen something about biblical stories and angels and Satan's work...in any case, it's a good essay!

Thoughts on Defensive War

[Note: This article was first published
in the Pennsylvania Magazine,  Philadelphia, July, 1775. Some sources
question whether it can be proved to be Paine's. We include it becauseit has been widely
accepted as Paine's over the years]

      Could the peaceable principle of the Quakers be universally
established, arms and the art of war would be wholly extirpated: But we live
not in a world of angels. The reign of Satan is not ended; neither are we to
expect to be defended by miracles. The pillar of the cloud existed only in
the wilderness. In the nonage of the Israelites. It protected them in the
retreat from Pharaoh, while they were destitute of the natural means of
defence, for they brought no arms from Egypt; but it neither fought their
battles nor shielded them from dangers afterwards. I am thus far a Quaker,
that I would gladly agree with all the world to lay aside the use of arms,
and settle matters by negotiation: but unless the whole will, the matter
ends, and I take up my musket and thank heaven he has put it in my power.
      Whoever considers the unprincipled enemy we have to to cope with, will
not hesitate to declare that nothing but arms or miracles can reduce them to
reason and moderation. They have lost sight of the limits of humanity. the
portrait of a parent red with the blood of her children is a picture fit
only for the galleries of the infernals. From the House of Commons the
troops of Britain have been exhorted to right, not for the defence of the
natural rights, not to repel the invasion of the insult of enemies; but on
the vilest of all pretences, gold. 'Ye fight for solid revenue' was
vociferated in the House. Thus America must suffer because she has something
to lose. Her crime is property. That which allures the Highwayman has
allured the ministry under a gentler name. but the position laid down by
Lord Sandwich, is a clear demonstration of the justice of defense arms. The
American, quoth this Quixote of modern days, will not fight; therefore we
will. His Lordship's plan when analized amounts to this. these people are
either too superstitiously religious, or too cowardly for arms; they either
cannot or dare not defend; their property is open to any one who has the
courage to attack them. Send but your troops and the prize is ours. Kill a
few and take the whole. thus the peaceable part of mankind will be
continually over-run by the vile and abandoned. while they neglect the means
of self defence. They supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian;
while on the other hand, arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and
the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property.
The balance of power is the scale of peace. The same balance would be
preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but
since some will not others dare not lay them aside. And while a single
nation refuses to lay them down, it is proper that all should keep them up.
Horrid mischief would ensue were one half the world deprived of the use of
them; for while avarice and ambition have a place in the heart of man, the
weak will become a prey to the strong. The history of every age and nation
establishes these truths, and facts need but little arguments when they
prove themselves.
      But there is a point to view this matter in of superior consequence to
the defence of property; and that point is Liberty in all its meanings. In
the barbarous ages of the world, men in general had no liberty. The strong
governed the weak at will; 'till the coming of Christ there was no such
thing as political freedom in any known part of the earth. The Jewish kings
were in point of government as absolute as the Pharaohs. Men were frequently
put to death without trial at the will of the Sovereign. The Romans held the
world in slavery, and were themselves the slaves of their emperors. the
madman of Macedon governed by caprice and passion, and strided as arrogantly
over the world as if he had made and people it; and it is needles to imagine
that other nations at that time were more refined. Wherefore political as
well as spiritual freedom is the gift of God through Christ. The second in
the catalogue of blessings; and so intimately related, so sympathetically
united with the first, that the one cannot be wounded without communicating
an injury to the other. Political liberty is the visible pass which guards
the religions. It is the outwork by which the church militant is defended,
and the attacks of the enemy are frequently made through his fortress. The
same power which as established a restraining Port Bill in the Colonies, has
established a restraining Protestant Church Bill in Canada.
      I had the pleasure and advantage of hearing this matter wisely
investigated, by a gentleman, in a sermon t one of the battalions of this
city; and am fully convinced, that spiritual freedom is the root of
political liberty. First. because till spiritual freedom was made manifest,
political liberty did not exist.
Secondly. Because in proportion that spiritual freedom has been manifested,
political liberty has encreased. Thirdly. whenever the visible church has
been oppressed, political freedom has suffered with it. Read the history of
Mary and the Stuarts. The popish world at this day by not knowing the full
manifestation of spiritual freedom, enjoy but a shadow of political liberty.
ãThough I am unwilling t accuse the present government of popish principles,
they cannot, I think, be clearly acquitted of popish practices: the facility
with which they perceive the dark and ignorant are governed, in popish
nations, will always be a temptation to the lovers of arbitrary power to
adopt the same methods.
      As the union between spiritual freedom and political liberty seems
nearly inseparable, it is our duty to defend both. And defence in the first
instance is best. The lives of hundreds of both countries had been preserved
had America been in arms a year ago. Our enemies have mistaken our peace for
cowardice, and supposing us unarmed have begun the attack.
A LOVER OF PEACE

26 posted on 07/17/2008 7:31:15 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: ReagansShinyHair

The way this guy is revered as the new messiah, is it possible he could be the Antichrist???


27 posted on 07/17/2008 7:31:20 AM PDT by Cobraman_SC (America Can be Energy Independent - Drill For Oil Here NOW!)
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To: ReagansShinyHair

What fantasy planet is he coming from.


28 posted on 07/17/2008 7:34:40 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: Paulus Invictus

“I wonder how Osama bin Idiota will accomplish the feat of ridding the world of nukes?”

A worldwide police state might work; then again it might not.


29 posted on 07/17/2008 7:35:40 AM PDT by devere
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To: ReagansShinyHair
That was a terrible movie.

The Obama version will be even worse.

30 posted on 07/17/2008 7:36:34 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: ReagansShinyHair
Someone's crying,Lord....kumbaya....
31 posted on 07/17/2008 7:38:34 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The problem with the rat race is,even if you win you're still a rat.)
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To: ReagansShinyHair

You go Barry!

We can give up cluster bombs and mines too! Surrender our technological advantage to the enemy and then we can fight man-to-man against countries that could sustain casualties equal to the population of North America and still have one billion people left over.


32 posted on 07/17/2008 7:39:57 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: sam_paine
The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The balance of power is the scale of peace. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not others dare not lay them aside. And while a single nation refuses to lay them down, it is proper that all should keep them up. Horrid mischief would ensue were one half the world deprived of the use of them; for while avarice and ambition have a place in the heart of man, the weak will become a prey to the strong. The history of every age and nation establishes these truths, and facts need but little arguments when they prove themselves.

Whatever else that may be said of Paine, that principle, true and sure then, holds to this day, and will only be abated by the return of our Savior.

Since we know not when that time will be, our course is sure. We must remain armed as individuals, as a people, and as a nation, with those arms that will, "discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe".

Any other course, particularly one of disarmament, is not only one of folly, but one we should look upon with the greatest suspicion that those who propose it are in league with our enemies.

33 posted on 07/17/2008 7:41:45 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: ReagansShinyHair

Obama says time to rid world of nuclear weapons

Maybe he really is the Messiah?

34 posted on 07/17/2008 7:42:44 AM PDT by McGruff (Either way. We're screwed.)
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To: ReagansShinyHair

35 posted on 07/17/2008 7:49:29 AM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: McGruff

He’s going to declare that the planet is a Nuclear Free Zone like Cambridge MA.


36 posted on 07/17/2008 7:50:50 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Jeff Head
but one we should look upon with the greatest suspicion that those who propose it are in league with our enemies.

But you know what scares me...not the fools like Obama who propose it....but the millions of voters who support his proposal.

And I'll bait a little further...those who are not voting McCain on "principle" are by transitive property in league with those who are supporters of he who is in league with our enemies!!!

37 posted on 07/17/2008 7:58:41 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: massgopguy

The biggest problem is he is preaching to a bunch of liberal nut jobs who actually think gun control will stop violence and that just ‘talking’ out your problems we can all get along. I cant believe people are so naive. There will always be bad people in our world and preaching this ideology only makes the naive and the evil smile.


38 posted on 07/17/2008 8:02:55 AM PDT by mriguy67
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To: doug from upland

OUTSTANDING!


39 posted on 07/17/2008 8:09:46 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: doug from upland


40 posted on 07/17/2008 8:11:57 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Jeff Head
Barack Hussein Obama cannot uninvent nuclear weapons any more than other idealists can uninvent firearms or knives. He cannot make tons of enriched fissile material vanish without a trace. Once knowledge of a technology is gained, the genie is out of the bottle. It's here to stay.

BhO shows his incredible naievete by assuming that we can make the elimination of all nuclear weapons a central part of our arms policy and then expecting that the other world powers, tyrants and terrorists will comply in return. They won't.

They would love for America to unilaterally disarm. They would find it quite amusing for the world's strongest power to voluntarily make itself weak. Strength is power, and our enemies will see such a move as weakness and stupidity...all the more reason to believe that world submission is indeed possible.

It seems that the entire world outside the US is desperately hoping for Barack Hussein Obama to be the next President of the United States. Hmm.

41 posted on 07/17/2008 8:23:16 AM PDT by Sender (Never lose your ignorance; you can never regain it!)
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To: ReagansShinyHair
Yeah, right.

I can see Russia, China, North Korea, Pakistan, India and Israel perhaps gladly agreeing to this Liberal dreamer scheme, but after we destroy all of ours according to the agreement and they don't, then what?

... Do I hear the sounds of astounded, disbelieving, hearty laughter and then a race to nuclear blackmail the USA and grab the spoils of a defenseless ex-superpower??

42 posted on 07/17/2008 8:32:13 AM PDT by Gritty (Obama has never had a job that deals with reality. He is simply Hollywood come to earth-James Lewis)
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To: Sender

43 posted on 07/17/2008 8:32:50 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: ReagansShinyHair
It's time to send a clear message to the world: "America seeks a world with no nuclear weapons," "Look at me! I am a complete and utter idiot," the White House hopeful said.
44 posted on 07/17/2008 8:34:27 AM PDT by Allegra (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: ReagansShinyHair

Is it any wonder why Obamie is pulling in millions of dollars from our enemies?

OBAMA IS ACTIVELY SOLICITING DONATIONS FROM THE ENEMIES OF AMERICA WITH THESE COMMENTS!!!

Obamie is essentially saying, ‘send me money so I can get elected and you may have a chance to take over America!”

Not kidding!


45 posted on 07/17/2008 8:34:48 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: ReagansShinyHair

Everybody will have perfect health, be wealthy, have a job only if they want one, be very smart, live in eternal youth forever, have perfect children and perfect spouse, a car that never needs gasoline, a new house paid off, and a dog that does not shed.


46 posted on 07/17/2008 8:40:21 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: ReagansShinyHair

How does he intend to erase the knowledge?


47 posted on 07/17/2008 8:55:01 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: ReagansShinyHair
I'm sure the muzzies know where they can get rid of a few of theirs.

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48 posted on 07/17/2008 9:18:27 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (VOT)
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To: wilco200

I have long maintained that that song might be reasonably used as legal support for justifiable homicide.


49 posted on 07/17/2008 9:22:33 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves.)
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To: Jeff Head

NUKING MECCA IN OPERA ON YOUTUBE - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZzUSiFIIg8


50 posted on 07/17/2008 9:44:21 AM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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