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Mathematically Confirmed: There Is No Climate Change Crisis
rightwingnews.com ^ | July 16, 2008

Posted on 07/17/2008 2:03:05 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Here's something unlikely to make the cover of Time. From the Science & Public Policy Institute:

WASHINGTON (7-15-08) — Mathematical proof that there is no "climate crisis" appears today in a major, peer-reviewed paper in Physics and Society, a learned journal of the 10,000-strong American Physical Society, SPPI reports.

Christopher Monckton, who once advised Margaret Thatcher, demonstrates via 30 equations that computer models used by the UN's climate panel (IPCC) were pre-programmed with overstated values for the three variables whose product is "climate sensitivity" (temperature increase in response to greenhouse-gas increase), resulting in a 500-2000% overstatement of CO2's effect on temperature in the IPCC's latest climate assessment report, published in 2007.

Climate Sensitivity Reconsidered [http://www.aps.org/units/fps/newsletters/200807/index.cfm] demonstrates that later this century a doubling of the concentration of CO2 compared with pre-industrial levels will increase global mean surface temperature not by the 6 °F predicted by the IPCC but, harmlessly, by little more than 1 °F.

The paper reveals the following:

• The IPCC's 2007 climate summary overstated CO2's impact on temperature by 500-2000%;
• CO2 enrichment will add little more than 1 °F (0.6 °C) to global mean surface temperature by 2100;
• Not one of the three key variables whose product is climate sensitivity can be measured directly;
• The IPCC's values for these key variables are taken from only four published papers, not 2,500;
• The IPCC's values for each of the three variables, and hence for climate sensitivity, are overstated;
• "Global warming" halted ten years ago, and surface temperature has been falling for seven years;

• Not one of the computer models relied upon by the IPCC predicted so long and rapid a cooling;
• The IPCC inserted a table into the scientists' draft, overstating the effect of ice-melt by 1000%;
• It was proved 50 years ago that predicting climate more than two weeks ahead is impossible;
• Mars, Jupiter, Neptune's largest moon, and Pluto warmed at the same time as Earth warmed;
• In the past 70 years the Sun was more active than at almost any other time in the past 11,400 years.

Someone had better get this news to Al Gore, since he won't be seeing it on TV. I'm sure he'll want to apologize for causing a lot of senseless hysteria over nothing.


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: agw; climate; climatechange; environment; globalwarming; goebbelswarming; gorebullwarning; gorwellianconcensus; invalidated; junkscience; monckton
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1 posted on 07/17/2008 2:03:05 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Climate Change Tenet number 42,781:

Global Warming will eventually cause people with impressive degrees to become hysterical and publish reports that Global Warming is not really happening at all. When this happens, Al Glore will have to take over and protect the global populace from itself.


2 posted on 07/17/2008 2:06:37 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Annapolis, flight school, Congress, Senate, MIAs, Keating 5, Soros, Kerry... tried & found wanting!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Facts and figures mean nothing/sarc


3 posted on 07/17/2008 2:07:13 PM PDT by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

W knew! (but has since forgotten)


4 posted on 07/17/2008 2:10:22 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president! (it ain't over 'til it's over))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

When Prophecy Fails.....watch for some rally crazy stuff from the Global Warming crowd. Really weird stuff.


5 posted on 07/17/2008 2:11:19 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Algore will now have to come up with another scam to get awards and stupid people to pay him for speeches. As if the facts that have been there all along haven’t been enough reason.


6 posted on 07/17/2008 2:11:38 PM PDT by kevinm13 (The Main Stream Media is dead! Rush the Vote. Operation Chaos rules. "Global Warming" is a HOAX!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

That looks more like statistics than mathematics.


7 posted on 07/17/2008 2:12:30 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Gorebull Squirming debunked!


8 posted on 07/17/2008 2:12:45 PM PDT by djf (Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach get elected.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Blasphemy! May the tribulations of Jabba the Gore be upon you!


9 posted on 07/17/2008 2:13:10 PM PDT by Rinnwald (Forget it, it's Chinatown.)
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To: scottdeus12

Unfortunately for leftists, there is no /sarc tage at the end of that statement. Of course is they actually they thought, they’d be conservatives.


10 posted on 07/17/2008 2:13:28 PM PDT by djsherin
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To: scottdeus12

Blinded by science again. I hate when facts get in the way of the AGW crowds ‘good intentions’... After all, isn’t ‘saving the planet’ a noble thing to want, even if the planet does not need to be saved?


11 posted on 07/17/2008 2:13:35 PM PDT by milwguy (........)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; ...

FReepmail me to get on or off


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12 posted on 07/17/2008 2:14:12 PM PDT by xcamel (Being on the wrong track means the unintended consequences express train doesnt kill you going by)
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To: scottdeus12

Mark my words, some clown will figure in the solar data and state that the increased solar activity will be more pronounced in effects upon the Earth due to increased green house gas emissions as opposed to what the effects would have been without the man-made gasses!

Look the greenies want their kumbaya world of half naked folk ruled by a “guiding” elite at no more than 500 million souls upon the planet. They will even fudge the data if they have to to get their “new Eden”! Nothing but ultimately armed revolution will stop them!


13 posted on 07/17/2008 2:16:42 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: DoughtyOne
Pretty heavy paper:

Climate Sensitivity Reconsidered

I understand a very small portion of it...the parts in English not in mathematics...oh and the charts I understand mostly.

Summary at the end:

In short, we must get the science right, or we shall get the policy wrong. If the concluding equation in this analysis (Eqn. 30) is correct, the IPCC’s estimates of climate sensitivity must have been very much exaggerated. There may, therefore, be a good reason why, contrary to the projections of the models on which the IPCC relies, temperatures have not risen for a decade and have been falling since the phase-transition in global temperature trends that occurred in late 2001. Perhaps real-world climate sensitivity is very much below the IPCC’s estimates. Perhaps, therefore, there is no “climate crisis” at all. At present, then, in policy terms there is no case for doing anything. The correct policy approach to a non-problem is to have the courage to do nothing.

14 posted on 07/17/2008 2:17:37 PM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Hello John McCain and McCainiacs, are you listening?


15 posted on 07/17/2008 2:19:24 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

My son works in a Natl. Lab that keeps very close track of the weather for Natl. Security purposes and has done so for more than 60 years. He told me last year that their records absolutely showed no appreciable change.


16 posted on 07/17/2008 2:19:36 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Domandred

That ending is sure solid. Nice landing! 9.65 9.72 8.87 10.0 9.42...

Thanks for the post. I building up courage as I type.


17 posted on 07/17/2008 2:21:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Annapolis, flight school, Congress, Senate, MIAs, Keating 5, Soros, Kerry... tried & found wanting!)
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To: kevinm13
Algore will now have to come up with another scam...

Isn't he trying that with his "get off carbon based fuel by 2018" BS?

Ekofreeks will believe this report and the MSM will report on it when...

Pigs fly

Obama produces birth certificate and other records

J F'n K produces his SF-180

18 posted on 07/17/2008 2:22:43 PM PDT by CPOSharky (Blaming CO2 for global warming is like blaming your thermometer for your kid's fever.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Bump.


19 posted on 07/17/2008 2:22:52 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"resulting in a 500-2000% overstatement of CO2's effect on temperature"

And so, since vegetation thrives on CO2, the models show the Earth becoming a verdant paradise of overflowing greens wherever the eye can see, right?

Right?

20 posted on 07/17/2008 2:23:13 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (Write in: Fred Thompson)
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To: mdmathis6

I’ve posted the below question on several political forums and still no answer from the alarmists. They see and hear what they want to believe and ignore anything that contradicts what they believe.

At one point in “An Inconvenient Truth” Al Gore references a set of line charts which depict global temperature(Blue) and global CO2 levels (red) one above another for the past 650,000 years. His first point is that they parallel closely thereby showing the direct relation between them. His next point is a relationship shown during the recent (last ice age until present day) portion of the chart. He points to the high peak at the end of the temperature line and says it would indicate a pleasant day. He then points to the low point in temperature and say this would be a place where you would have “a mile of Ice over your head”. At this point he moves up to the CO2 line and the chart animates forward in time to the present day. The CO2 for present day is a nearly vertical line with about double the length of the CO2 change shown from “mile of ice” to “pleasant day”. Here is where the problem arises. If I am to believe Al’s first assertion that the CO2 and temp are directly related (and the lines do indeed show almost identical changes in direction and magnitude), and I ascribe a reasonable temperature difference to the unit “Mile of Ice” to “Pleasant day” like 80 degrees F, then the present day temp “For places like Detroit and Cleveland” would have to be 240 degrees F (80 + 2 X 80). Al then goes on to show the predictions for the next 50 years on the CO2 line, about another 2 of my units. This would mean that the corresponding temperature would have to be 400 degrees (240 +2 X 80).

There a couple of inconvenient (for poor Al) truths left out in the movie at this point. 1. The temperature scale is never continued to present day because it would have shown a gross flattening not corresponding to the CO2 line (Weather channel showing significantly below 240 this time of year). And 2. Since the graph is on the 650,000 year scale it fails to show the 100-200 year nuance that temperature precedes CO2 levels indicating increased CO2 is a result not a cause of naturally caused global climate change.


21 posted on 07/17/2008 2:23:14 PM PDT by LaurenD
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Uh oh...Christopher Monckton had better be prepared for the wrath...


22 posted on 07/17/2008 2:24:10 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Trust me...I know what I'm doing.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
peas in a pod..


23 posted on 07/17/2008 2:25:20 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: Domandred
Global warming:” The correct policy approach to a non-problem is to have the courage to do nothing.”

that would make an excellent tag line, if someone is looking for one, OR a fantastic bumper sticker.

24 posted on 07/17/2008 2:27:21 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Hey!

Stop That!

Don’t you know the debate is over??


25 posted on 07/17/2008 2:29:32 PM PDT by Wil H
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Left is way ahead of this. It’s now ‘Climate Change’ instead of ‘Global Warming’. We have to stay current!


26 posted on 07/17/2008 2:30:05 PM PDT by Textide
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To: RightWhale
That looks more like statistics than mathematics.

Yes, they are taught as separate classes in college, aren't they? However, statistics is a subset of mathematics, not the other way around.

27 posted on 07/17/2008 2:33:13 PM PDT by webheart (I am Webheart, and I approved this post.)
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To: DoughtyOne
8.87

Must be the French judge

28 posted on 07/17/2008 2:33:44 PM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: SoConPubbie

29 posted on 07/17/2008 2:35:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (America's Independent Party: The citizen-led campaign to save America - www.selfgovernment.us)
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To: RightWhale

http://www.aps.org/units/fps/newsletters/200807/upload/july08.pdf


30 posted on 07/17/2008 2:36:13 PM PDT by Eddie01 (Freeper ID clue: I spy something blue and cold)
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To: scottdeus12
Facts and figures mean nothing

To a liberal.
31 posted on 07/17/2008 2:37:09 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Free ThinkerNY

bump


32 posted on 07/17/2008 2:48:21 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The first duty of intelligent men of our day is the restatement of the obvious. " - George Orwell)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Liberals will simply claim its ‘fuzzy math’...


33 posted on 07/17/2008 2:49:21 PM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: Ditter
"The correct policy approach to a non-problem is to have the courage to do nothing"

I have said this 1000 times.

It applies to many things in life, including most if not all liberal "crises."

34 posted on 07/17/2008 2:51:12 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: Textide

Except that there is no positive correlation between climate change and increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

According to a graph on NASA, between 1880 and 1938, there was an obvious warming trend that was concurrent with an atmospheric CO2 increase of +20 ppmv.

Between 1938 and 2004, there was a cooling and recovery and there has been no net warming since 1938. This cooling was concurrent with an increase in atmospheric CO2 of +60 ppmv.

The temp increase over the last 100 years is .6 degrees.

Pre-industrial CO2 levels made up .028% of all components in the atmosphere.

Present day CO2 levels constitute .0384% of the atmosphere. CO2 accounts for 72% of greenhouse gases but even if it were to double, it would still make up less than .01% of our atmosphere. Water vapor makes up far more of our atmosphere than CO2 does and is far more efficient at absorbing and trapping heat from the sun.


35 posted on 07/17/2008 2:52:57 PM PDT by LaurenD
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To: Free ThinkerNY

btt


36 posted on 07/17/2008 2:53:14 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: DoughtyOne

Did Al Gore approve those numbers....


37 posted on 07/17/2008 2:56:14 PM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Lefties and regular Americans who got sucked into this fraud will be deeply saddened ;)


38 posted on 07/17/2008 3:00:21 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Gore declared months ago that the facts were in and the debate was over. This won’t dissuade him from his mission as savior of planet earth.


39 posted on 07/17/2008 3:01:32 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Textide

We used to call “Climate Change” “the weather” as it changes all the time.


40 posted on 07/17/2008 3:05:42 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

chill, oops, read later


41 posted on 07/17/2008 3:06:32 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: LaurenD

Climate change covers everything; from -100% to 100%. Just one of those convenient terms that they like to use (instead of Global Warming which only covers positive temp changes). That’s all my post was meant to illustrate. :)


42 posted on 07/17/2008 3:07:24 PM PDT by Textide
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To: LaurenD
Water vapor makes up far more of our atmosphere than CO2 does and is far more efficient at absorbing and trapping heat from the sun.

While accurate, this is irrelevant. We're not adding water to the environment. In fact, we have no way to add water. There's already just about more water than anything else.

We are adding carbon. Doesn't mean the warmists are right, but we should try to be scientifically accurate.

43 posted on 07/17/2008 3:08:02 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
were pre-programmed with overstated values for the three variables whose product is "climate sensitivity"

Sensitivity derivatives are known to be, um, sensitive...

44 posted on 07/17/2008 3:16:52 PM PDT by Regulator (Obama = Mugabe)
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To: DoughtyOne
At first, a few brave naysayers spoke out — only to be shunned, vilified, and ridiculed by their “peers” (and the sheeple). They were also thrown off the money train — which explains why many AGW dissenters with science backgrounds have been emeritus professors in related disciplines. They no longer have anything to lose.

Now that the tide is turning — a lot of young scientists will want to make their mark, by showing how wrong their theses advisers were.

There are probably tens of thousands of academic scientists, who are anxious to shake off the shackles of oppression (so to speak) and finally be allowed to publish the “truth”, as they see it. They will be further motivated by vengeance against the academic fascists, and bureaucrats that have held them down. Reparations will be demanded. (Only slightly exaggerating, here.) It will be fun to watch.

45 posted on 07/17/2008 3:19:33 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I write software for a living - I laugh when I read that ‘the computer models say”

the computer models only say whatever you tell them to say


46 posted on 07/17/2008 3:20:04 PM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

bump


47 posted on 07/17/2008 3:20:56 PM PDT by aShepard (Loose lips Sink ships)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I still think it is all Bush’s fault (sarc)


48 posted on 07/17/2008 3:21:04 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: TexanToTheCore

“When Prophecy Fails.....watch for some rally crazy stuff from the Global Warming crowd. Really weird stuff”

Indeed:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2045508/posts

- John


49 posted on 07/17/2008 3:23:07 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: SoConPubbie

Hello John McCain and McCainiacs, are you listening?

Only to La Raza and Al Gore.


50 posted on 07/17/2008 3:25:58 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (It's too bad I've already promised myself to never vote for McCain.)
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