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An Argument For An Armed Citizenry (Gang Assault at Valley Fair Amusement Park)
Power Line ^ | July 16, 2008 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 07/17/2008 8:16:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A horrific news story has slowly made its way into the headlines here in the Twin Cities. A local resident, his wife and three daughters spent the evening of the Fourth of July at Valleyfair, a local amusement park. They were leaving the park at midnight when a criminal began to molest his twelve-year-old daughter.

The father intervened to defend his daughter, and the offender put out a call for his "homies." Eight "men" materialized and began to beat up the father. They knocked him to the ground and took turns stomping on his head. The man's wife and daughters tried to protect him, unsuccessfully, and Valleyfair's security guards apparently tried to help, but ineffectually.

The father is still hospitalized, but the criminals are out on bail. The family's name is being kept secret, lest the criminals find them and kill them to avoid prosecution.

Initially, the local media downplayed the story, presumably because of the race of the criminals. But today, the Minneapolis Star Tribune broke down and covered it. Still, the story was apparently too hot for the paper to allow comments; if you follow the link, you'll see that, contrary to the Star Tribune's usual policy, it is impossible to comment.

The story is an infuriating one in several ways, but what strikes me most forcibly is that it would have been a good thing if a few armed citizens had happened by while the assault was in progress. It's no surprise that the victim's wife and daughters couldn't protect him from eight "men," and apparently Valleyfair's security force is unarmed. So the optimal outcome here would have been for one or more normal citizens to pull a firearm, shoot a couple of the criminals, and hold the rest until the police arrived. Criminals who carry out outrageous assaults in public do so on the assumption that passersby will not be able to stop them. Absent firearms, that assumption is reasonable. So let's hear it for concealed carry.

Under Minnesota law, any business can ban guns on its premises, and, while a few minutes of research yielded nothing, I assume that Valleyfair bans guns, as most businesses that are open to the public do. This strikes me as a mistake. Against a gang such as the one that is now on the loose in the Twin Cities, only armed citizens can be effective.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; ccw; concealedcarry; gang; gangs; hinderaker; racerelations; secondamendment; selfdefense; sheeple; twincities
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Exactly!
1 posted on 07/17/2008 8:16:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And when the wolf is at the door, who will one turn to but one’s self?


2 posted on 07/17/2008 8:19:54 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Romans 10.10/Eze 11.2)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This story makes my blood boil.

I'm going to self-censor now.

3 posted on 07/17/2008 8:21:57 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is just an example of Baraq Husayn ibn Mahomet and his “civilian national security force” which is “equally armed and trained”....


4 posted on 07/17/2008 8:26:06 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
>"They knocked him to the ground and took turns stomping on his head."

Same MO as the Jeener Sicks!

The real question is, was he thinking of a noose? Then all is well, ,,,well except for him.

5 posted on 07/17/2008 8:28:10 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I will stand with the Muslims ~B Hussein Obomber Verito Possumus~Verified Sleeper!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Security” should be armed at the very least when a place is ‘open’ to the public.


6 posted on 07/17/2008 8:29:57 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s why I carry. 40 rounds of .45 ACP 230 gr Gold Dot hollow point should help me make my point should thugs ever try to harm me or my family.


7 posted on 07/17/2008 8:32:26 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
More than 1,600 Whites are murdered by Blacks each year.

Blacks murder Whites at 18 times the rate Whites murder Blacks.

About 1 million Whites were murdered, robbed, assaulted, or raped by Blacks in 1992.

In the last 30 years, 170 million violent and nonviolent crimes were committed by Blacks against Whites in the U.S.

Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than Whites the same age.

Some 90% of the victims of race crimes are Whites.

Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than Whites, although they comprise only one-seventh of the White population.

On a per-capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crimes than Whites.

Some 27 million nonviolent crimes were committed in the U.S. in 1992 alone. 31% of the robberies involved Black offenders and White victims; only 2% involved White offenders and Black victims.

1.3 million of the 6.6 million violent crimes committed in the U.S. each year are interracial.

source

8 posted on 07/17/2008 8:34:58 PM PDT by South40
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Just damn! I had no idea: I’m a 6ft. tall, 375lb former soldier that works on the side as a bodyguard, but I still couldn’t take on eight guys. We need CCW in every state as of yesterday!!


9 posted on 07/17/2008 8:38:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only the Marxist Obama can!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A double-tap to one or two heads of these miscreants and the rest would have fled like the cowards that they are. CCW should be a right guaranteed by the Constitution.


10 posted on 07/17/2008 8:39:24 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Soldier soon to be training other Army Soldiers)
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To: South40
But, but, but, inequality made them do it/sarc
11 posted on 07/17/2008 8:41:03 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Soldier soon to be training other Army Soldiers)
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To: AlaskaErik

Where do you fit 40 rounds?


12 posted on 07/17/2008 8:44:35 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: holdonnow

Boy, is this one to hit hard.


13 posted on 07/17/2008 8:46:21 PM PDT by JennysCool
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To: AlaskaErik

You carry 40 rounds?


14 posted on 07/17/2008 8:47:28 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Still, the story was apparently too hot for the paper to allow comments; if you follow the link, you'll see that, contrary to the Star Tribune's usual policy, it is impossible to comment.

You can't comment on their editorials, either. Wonder why that is?

15 posted on 07/17/2008 8:48:35 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("We are the people." - Psalm 95:7)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The father is still hospitalized, but the criminals are out on bail

That's all one needs to know to understand the problem in the twin cities

16 posted on 07/17/2008 8:49:29 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: milford421

Ping.


17 posted on 07/17/2008 8:49:59 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hmmm? Sounds like Obama’s ‘Youth Corps’ in action.
Or, could it be his ‘Citizens Security Force.’
Instead of Brown Shirts, they are now wearing Red.
By the way could this be another ‘Hate Crime’ that the MSM is trying to hide.
Hope everyone remembers the two white kids killed this past year by 5 Afro Americans. They tortured, raped and mutilated both the man and woman. But the Liberal MSM refused to call it a hate crime.
18 posted on 07/17/2008 8:50:05 PM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So much to say...

And to top off the whole story:

The father is still hospitalized, but the criminals are out on bail. The family's name is being kept secret, lest the criminals find them and kill them to avoid prosecution.

The perps are out on bail? Did the judge at the hearing not see the OBVIOUS danger to the victims and to society as a whole...not to mention that they are a flight risk... stupid judge. Anything happens to the family, the judge should be held as an accessory...

19 posted on 07/17/2008 9:05:39 PM PDT by TheBattman (Vote your conscience, or don't complain about RINOs!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bring back public hanging (or better yet, public impalment) and this will end quickly.


20 posted on 07/17/2008 9:10:16 PM PDT by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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