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Obama Campaign Is Making Progress With Evangelical Voters
U.S. News & World Report ^ | July 17, 2008 | Liz Halloran

Posted on 07/17/2008 9:36:04 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Randy Brinson says he "almost fell out of my chair" when he heard that expected Democratic nominee Barack Obama had chosen Zanesville, Ohio, as the setting for a recent speech in which he embraced the concept of using faith-based groups to help carry out government social service efforts.

It wasn't that Zanesville struck Brinson as an odd locale. Quite the opposite. It was that Obama had clearly figured out something that Brinson already knew.

"Zanesville is Ground Zero for conservative evangelicals in Ohio," says Brinson, who, as founder of the voter registration organization "Redeem the Vote," knows a thing or two about where to find conservative Christians. It's a place, he says, that is populated with just the kind of recently reliable Republican voters Obama has tried to woo with a strategy that Brinson and other Christian leaders say they have found remarkable.

"They've researched where the votes are, and they've thrown away the old Democratic playbooks," says Brinson, who is among the evangelical leaders the Obama camp has reached out to. "Instead of just relying on a large number of urban votes, they're going to suburban areas and reaching out to a large number of conservatives." And so are Obama supporters: the religious political action committee Matthew 25 has already aired a pro-Obama ad on Christian radio in Colorado Springs, Colo., home of evangelical leader James Dobson of Focus on the Family, a harsh critic of the Democratic candidate.

(Excerpt) Read more at usnews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: christianvote; dncfalseprophets; evangelicals; faithbased; falseprophets; obama; oh2008; swingstates

1 posted on 07/17/2008 9:36:05 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Evangelicals who don’t pay much attention if he is in fact making progress with them.


2 posted on 07/17/2008 9:40:16 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Maybe Brinson, the so-called “leader of Ohio Evangelicals” missed the part that BO is Muslim.


3 posted on 07/17/2008 9:41:54 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Free ThinkerNY

How many of these bullshit articles have we seen already? Expect many, many more from the lying, commie media.


4 posted on 07/17/2008 9:42:35 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Like Hank Williams Jr. said, they say send your dollars to Jesus and then they give you THEIR address. I’m not into evangelicals. I can see where it would be easy for those people to fall for Obama’s line of bovine scatology.


5 posted on 07/17/2008 9:46:10 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The U.S. Constitution was not written to protect those who want to destroy America.)
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To: pissant

That’s true - I remember these from back in 2004 - prime time news stories about how even the GOP base was abandoning Bush in Ohio...election night told a different story.


6 posted on 07/17/2008 9:47:39 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Free ThinkerNY
From an entry in today's LA Times blog:

Evangelicals still aren't finding their way to Obama, study finds

Democrats like to say that, this year, they finally will dig into the Republicans’ traditional advantage among evangelical voters. After all, social conservatives are skeptical of John McCain, and Barack Obama seems so comfortable talking about his faith (at least when his former pastor isn’t involved).

But a new analysis from the nonpartisan Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, finds that Obama is doing just as badly among white evangelical voters as his party’s 2004 nominee was at this point.

The report, based on a national Pew poll conducted last month, found that just 25% of white evangelicals support Obama, compared to the 26% who said they backed John F. Kerry’s candidacy in the summer of 2004. (Kerry wound up winning just 21% of that group, according to exit polls.)

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/07/democrats-like.html

7 posted on 07/17/2008 9:51:54 PM PDT by keepitreal ("I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message. . . until I don't.")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Oh good grief. I can’t believe anyone that would call themselves Evangelical would even give Obama the time of day.


8 posted on 07/17/2008 9:56:45 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Obama Campaign Is Making Progress With Evangelical Voters

Yawn. mmmmhmmm.

9 posted on 07/17/2008 9:56:46 PM PDT by Snurple
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If this is true, what the heck is wrong with the Evangelicals? Come on guys, we need you as an anchor to keep America from becoming a socialist European country!


10 posted on 07/17/2008 9:58:41 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Free ThinkerNY

crystal meth-odists?


11 posted on 07/17/2008 10:06:06 PM PDT by milemark (allegedly.)
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To: Unam Sanctam
How could any Evangelical support Obama and the Democrat
Pro abortion
Pro Gay Marriage
and etc.
barbra ann
12 posted on 07/17/2008 10:08:41 PM PDT by barb-tex ( A prudent man (more so for a woman) foreseeth the evil and hideth him self)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
As a state senator, Obama supported killing off babies who survived an abortion by denying them protection. He voted "present."

I'm no evangelical, but I can't see the evangelicals I know supporting that.

13 posted on 07/17/2008 10:12:41 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Eh

You can file this into the “Long time Republican voting for Obama” media narrative file.


14 posted on 07/17/2008 10:15:10 PM PDT by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned)
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To: The South Texan

Probably former Huckabee supporters.


15 posted on 07/17/2008 10:15:27 PM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Nothing against Evangelicals, or Blacks, or Evangelical Blacks, but I am so tired of the “key words” that the media throws out there concerning the election... I am tired of their use of Evangelical, Black, White, Mormon, etc. The one thing the media seems to of avoided this election is dividing this country into the haves and the havenots.


16 posted on 07/17/2008 10:18:30 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: barb-tex

2Thesalonians 2:11: And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie

2Thesalonians 2:12: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness

Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name? and in your name have cast out devils? and in your name done many wonderful works?

Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity.

1st Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;


17 posted on 07/17/2008 10:19:37 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent......)
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To: pissant
Excellent observation.

Liberals and the MSM just do not seem to understand that to real evangelical Christian the words, Abortion and Sam Sex Marriage go together with Satan and the Devil.

To libs like Obama, the words Christian, Bible, Jesus and God are “JUST WORDS”.

18 posted on 07/17/2008 10:26:48 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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I wonder how many of them know Obama’s church had a gay choir director who was also an elementary school teacher and was murdered?


19 posted on 07/17/2008 10:28:48 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Another story we can call B.S. on. Another “I used to support the GOP until they blah, blah, blah...” canard. The MSM doesn’t like to publish articles showing Dem voters willing to vote for McCain. Don’t want to look too balanced and fair.


20 posted on 07/17/2008 11:56:39 PM PDT by princeofdarkness (Barack Hussein Obama- The Only Candidate Who Makes John Kerry Look Steadfast and Principled.)
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To: pissant

Yep, last time it was some “pastor”. When I did a simple google search the woman was not a pastor, or even an associate pastor, at the place she claimed she was from. She apparently had been shuffled around from one place to another before being demoted to youth directer.


21 posted on 07/18/2008 12:11:56 AM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: pissant
Yawn, that didn't take long....

Back in April 2006:

"Three years ago, Randy Brinson would have been the first to tell you that he was an unlikely political player and an even less likely Democratic collaborator."

"If being a player in this world meant calling for the heads of moderate Republicans and ginning up fake controversies like a supposed "war on Christmas," Brinson wasn't terribly interested."

"In quick succession, the lifelong Republican found himself meeting with advisors to the incoming Democratic leaders—Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.)—field directors at the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and aides to Howard Dean at the Democratic National Committee. " "Randy Brinson is proof that some evangelicals are willing to take their chances and cross over to see what Democrats have to offer. "

So 2 years later he once again is a...life long republican who is leaving the GOP.

I'm guessing in 2010 he will still be a lifelong republican who....can you guess? Is leaving the GOP.

22 posted on 07/18/2008 12:43:43 AM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: Unam Sanctam

Relax, this is U.S. socialist News and communist
report.

They must poll black evagelicals. Their support is a given.

No news here, move along.


23 posted on 07/18/2008 1:20:27 AM PDT by ChiMark
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To: icwhatudo

I instinctively knew something was crooked about this article without even reading the details or researching this ‘evangelical’ feller. Many times have I looked deeper into this type of article and found it to be a ruse.

Thanks for proving my instincts correct. It is incredible that the MSM continues to follow this same old marxist tactics year after year after year.


24 posted on 07/18/2008 4:52:09 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Yeah....and some people profess NOT to understand why the MSM is going out of business.....


25 posted on 07/18/2008 4:55:51 AM PDT by mo
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I believe Hank was referring to the TV evangelists...not evangelicals. Evangelicals are, in very simple terms. Christians who believe in a personal relationship with God through His Son Jesus. True evangelicals will not vote for Obama because of his position on abortion.


26 posted on 07/18/2008 4:55:57 AM PDT by bamagirl1944
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To: Free ThinkerNY

How can this be???? This has to be psyops. How can evangelicals support a guy who opposed the Born Alive Infants Protection Act (who blocked the Induced Infant Liability Act in Ill.) that would protect babies that SURVIVE late term abortion — babies with a heart beat and breathing on their own but were somehow included in the “abortion rights” of the Freedom of Choice Act that BHO supports? This guy’s a murderer.


27 posted on 07/18/2008 5:46:47 AM PDT by Snow Eagle
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To: Unam Sanctam; Free ThinkerNY
"what the heck is wrong with the Evangelicals"

This is really a terminology or semantics issue. And a campaign strategy.

The cultural populists have been in the GOP for 40 plus years. The cultural populists are sometimes called cultural conservatives or social conservatives, but, for them, cultural issues are important. The sub-groups are religious culture, rural culture, southern culture, gun culture, etc.

OTOH, the economic populists are a democratic constituency. The sub-groups are blue collar, union, social justice/welfare, environmental justice, etc.

The dems recognize the bonds between the cultural populists and the GOP are strained and are trying to bring them back into the democratic party. And they have had some success.

The strategy, especially with the religious right, is to appeal to their sense of social justice, fair wages(living wages), and caring about the environment.

The dems are trying to unite the cultural and economic populists as democratic moral populists.

28 posted on 07/18/2008 7:05:11 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Free ThinkerNY

LOL. Another wishful-thinking article from the liberal media. They must really be getting close to panic mode with Barry O to be trotting out this garbage so early.


29 posted on 07/18/2008 7:08:05 AM PDT by Antoninus (Every second spent bashing McCain is time that could be spent helping Conservatives downticket.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Oh sure barack mcgovern is making “progress” with Evangelicals - riiiiiiiiiiiiight!!!!!


30 posted on 07/18/2008 7:56:54 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

There are a few posters who like to use articles like this (or any other excuse they can find) to bash evangelicals for being stupid, ignorant, easily deceived, etc.

All I can say is, in the evangelical circles I frequent, I don’t know ANYBODY that will vote for Obama.

As with any religious group, there are a bunch of EINABO’s out there ... Evangelical in Name and Background Only.


31 posted on 07/18/2008 8:11:33 AM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: Oliver Optic

This is the biggest jug of kool aid the leftist media has servred up yet. Christians don’t vote democratic. A vote
for a democrat is the same as killing babies and promoting
homosexuality. No way around it.


32 posted on 07/18/2008 8:42:59 AM PDT by RED SOUTH
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Every single one of these evangelicals are going to be in shock when the breath of Obama’s past liberalism is finally brought to light in September-October.


33 posted on 07/18/2008 10:27:50 AM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He’ll make progress with this evangelical when he stops supporting baby killing, and gives back all his Planned Parenthood donations to prove it.

Not before.


34 posted on 07/18/2008 10:57:11 AM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son that whosoever believes in Him should not die)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
“Like Hank Williams Jr. said, they say send your dollars to Jesus and then they give you THEIR address. I’m not into evangelicals.”

Corrupt preachers/ministers/priests are a scourge of every denomination. Jesus Himself warned of them, telling in Matthew 7:15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.

They are not a defining characteristic of evangelicals, nor are evangelicals dumber than other believers.

Rather, I would say we are more literal than some Christians so that when Jesus says:

Matthew 28:18Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.

we try to do that.

That's what an evangelical is.

35 posted on 07/18/2008 11:03:10 AM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son that whosoever believes in Him should not die)
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