Skip to comments.Interview on the Sean Hannity Radio Show (Condoleezza Rice)
Posted on 07/18/2008 6:02:09 AM PDT by nuconvert
Interview on the Sean Hannity Radio Show (Condoleezza Rice)
SECRETARY RICE: ... First of all, this decision, this tactical decision to send Bill Burns one time to receive the reply that the Iranians are supposed to give to the offer that the United States, Russia, China, and three European states made hes going to go receive the reply, and hes going to tell the Iranians, in no uncertain terms, that if they want to negotiate, the condition for doing that is to suspend verifiably their enrichment and reprocessing. So this is really to reinforce the policy that weve set up. Its to reinforce our unity with the other five countries that are doing this. And its, frankly, to say to the Iranian people, Your government has a way out of this, and instead, they continue isolating themselves and isolating you.
QUESTION: So this is a very, very specific, one-time meeting. This is not a negotiation. Would that be fair?
SECRETARY RICE: This is not a negotiation. We sent the letter to the Iranians with an offer. Theyre coming back to give the response. Bill will listen to the response. He will explain to them the conditions under which the United States will negotiate, which have not changed. And in doing so, we believe we reinforce our policy and we reinforce our allies.
QUESTION: Yeah, well, you know, its being played up in the media as a shift in position. Does that bother you or frustrate you?
SECRETARY RICE: Well, whats frustrating about that is that if people were if people are just listening, they will hear very clearly that we are not going to negotiate on this negotiate with the Iranians until they suspend their enrichment and reprocessing. That has been the bottom line always. And theres a sense somehow that because were making this tactical decision that were changing policy. But our policy is as firm as ever. We think, if anything, this is an opportunity to reinforce it with the Iranians.
QUESTION: Let me ask you a little bit about some news that came out of Iraq last week. Some were referring to it as bombshell news that the U.S. had completed the removal of 500 tons of uranium from Baghdad, which had been stored at Saddam Husseins former nuclear weapons development plant. Now, Ive discussed this on the program, this issue of uranium there, for years. Most people who learned about this, they were hearing it for the first time and saw it and viewed it as confirmation that Saddam did, indeed, have the potential for weapons of mass destruction or a key component to make them. My only question is: Why didnt the Bush Administration ever highlight the fact that Saddam did have this huge stockpile of uranium, especially when Joe Wilson was running around saying that the guy didnt have any?
SECRETARY RICE: Well, they not only did they have these stockpiles of uranium, yellow cake, which weve now secured and moved out of the country, but you know, every report made clear that the Iraqis were keeping infrastructure, they were making it possible for themselves to have weapons of mass destruction. They were waiting for the world to have turned a blind eye. They were waiting for the sanctions to be lifted.
But its been a little hard to get the point through that Iraq was a country that had used weapons of mass destruction against their neighbors and against their own people, that we had had sanctions, the world had had sanctions some of the toughest sanctions ever, Sean, on this country because of their weapons of mass destruction programs that in 1998 the United States had actually used military force because of their weapons of mass destruction. And so the idea that somehow which now seems to be in vogue that this was a country that was no threat in terms of this issue of weapons of mass destruction maybe we just havent done a good enough job of getting the word out.
QUESTION: Let me ask you to go back to Iran for one second here. Iran and Ahmadinejad continue to threaten Israel, wipe it off the map, et cetera. Israel now has publicly stated that they are prepared to take out Iranian nuclear facilities. And it seems to be escalating in terms of the rhetoric. But if Im Israel and Im being threatened on a regular basis, and we see these missiles being fired by Iran on top of the pursuit of nuclear weapons, could anybody really blame Israel for taking out those facilities?
SECRETARY RICE: Well, we keep in very close contact with the Israelis. And I think everybody understands that a diplomatic solution to this is far preferable to anything else we can do. And weve got a chance at it. And often when we say diplomacy, people think we just mean talking. Thats not how I define diplomacy. I define diplomacy as giving countries the right incentives and disincentives to come to an agreement. And with the Iranians, weve got plenty of disincentives now on the table, plenty of sticks, if you will: the financial measures that weve been taking, the recent EU sanctions of Iranian banks; you may have noticed that Total has pulled out of Iran; the Iranians are having trouble in terms of inflation; theyre having trouble getting investment. And so, I believe were on a good diplomatic course here, and were still waiting to see if there are reasonable people in Iran.
Now, to be sure, when the missile test took place, I said I was in Europe at the time, and I said that it said two things to me. The first is that people who want to pretend that this is an imaginary threat of missiles from Iran and, therefore, dont think we need missile defense are making a grave mistake. This is why missile defense needs to be pursued, and pursued aggressively. And secondly, the United States has plenty of power to defend the interest its interest and the interest of its allies, and I dont think the Iranians are confused. They know that we will do what we need to do to defend ourselves and to defend our allies.
Question: ...Senator Barack Obama has said. He accused the U.S. of air raiding villages and killing civilians in Afghanistan. He once said it would be a profound mistake to use nuclear weapons under any circumstances. He referred to Iran, Cuba and Venezuela as tiny countries that dont pose a serious threat. How do you respond to those comments, you know, taking Barack Obama or the political equation out of it?
SECRETARY RICE: Well, first of all, I know a lot of things gets said in campaigns, but lets just look at the facts. And its the Taliban thats killing innocent civilians in Afghanistan and killing them trying to kill them with impunity. You know, when no one tries harder than the American forces and our coalition partners to avoid civilian casualties. When you have terrorists who very often use villages as human shields, unfortunately, sometimes, if youre going after terrorists, some innocents will be killed. But its by no means the policy or the intention of coalition forces or American forces who are there trying to secure Afghanistan they are trying to improve the lives of Afghans to kill innocent civilians. And this is unfortunately, the line about killing civilians, I believe, is an unfortunate one. We sometimes hear it in Europe. We should not fall prey to that argument that somehow were killing innocent civilians. It is the Taliban that is doing that.
And as to Iran, Venezuela, Cuba look, Iran is a dangerous country. Its got a revolutionary ideology. It uses its tentacles through Hezbollah and Hamas and special militias in Iraq to not just try not just endanger our troops, but endanger the hopes and dreams of Palestinians and Lebanese and Iraqis. Its a dangerous country. It has its vulnerabilities. But its dangerous, and we need to treat it as such.
And as to Cuba, the Cuban people deserve better. They deserve their liberty. Its been too long. And the Venezuelans certainly deserve especially living in a hemisphere as they do that is moving closer and closer, and has moved over time to freedom, the Venezuelans also deserve better.
I clearly recall many on this forum claiming our sending an emissary to receive the answer from Iran to out latest proposal was a cave in and change of policy.
Sometimes it makes more sense to actually get the information, all of it, the nuts and bolts, before making a determination. Most especially when what we originally had was filtered through the lame stream press.
“Sometimes it makes more sense to actually get the information,...Most especially when what we originally had was filtered through the lame stream press.”
Agree. That’s what I said here....
We sent the letter to the Iranians with an offer. Theyre coming back to give the response. Bill will listen to the response. He will explain to them the conditions under which the United States will negotiate, which have not changed.
Hmmm. One side makes an offer. The other side gives a response. The offerer responds to the response. Isn't there a word for this process?
Well boy howdy there is!
negotiation: the act or process of conferring or discussing to reach agreement in matters of business or state.
What a bunch of doublespeak crapola coming from Condi. And what a shocker that isn't.
Just another big lie from Eice! With all the crap Rice has been slinging around...no one trust her...her pandsey with the Paleos; PLO & Hamas and then Hezzbo in Lebanon were the last straw for me...she is nothing more than a fraud....I still want to see a serious background investigation of this AA hire! Why doesn’t her sojourn to USSR show up in her Vita?
With democrats I expect them to suck up to Palestinians, considering they hate Jews, hate America and have billboards and posters of suicide bombers lining their streets and painted Israeli and American flags for their children to step on at the entrances of their classrooms. Palestinians and Democrats have a common enemy, America.
When supposed Republicans show support for a Palestinian “state” I scratch my head. There is no appeasing these lunatics, they break every treaty they sign within a week. Do they just want Israel to surrender to avoid war in the Middle East? That would mean terrorism is an effective tool.
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