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Mob attacks officers over litter
BBC News ^ | 2008-07-18 | BBC

Posted on 07/18/2008 6:41:43 AM PDT by Todd_Gray

Two police officers are on sick leave after being attacked by a mob in south London after they asked a 15-year-old girl to pick up her litter.

One officer was dragged to the ground and kicked while the other was bitten by a girl who jumped on his back.

Up to 30 people took part in the attack, which happened in North End, Croydon, on Wednesday afternoon.

Trouble flared when the 15-year-old threw her food wrapper back on to the ground and became aggressive.

Hospital treatment

A girl who was arrested at the scene on suspicion of assault has been released on bail.

Two men, aged 34 and 38 and both from South Norwood, south London, have been arrested on suspicion of assault and violent disorder.

Police said the girl initially picked up the fast food wrapper when asked by the patrolling officers, but immediately dropped it again sparking the confrontation.

The officers, aged 34 and 29, suffered bruising and knee injuries and are currently on sick leave.

The officer who received the bite wound required hospital treatment.

Officers have been examining CCTV footage from the area.

Insp Simon Ellingham said: "We have heard from several retailers in the area who were horrified at the level of violence used by the crowd against the officers."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: barbarians; bigbrother; endofsociety; leo; ruledbritannia; securitycameras; thereisnoenglandnow; whoaretheperps

1 posted on 07/18/2008 6:44:06 AM PDT by Todd_Gray
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To: Todd_Gray

And they won’t let cops carry anything to protect themselves with. DUMB.DUMB. DUMB.


2 posted on 07/18/2008 6:48:08 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (If the opposite of Pro is Con, what is the opposite of Progress? -- Tom Glennon)
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To: Todd_Gray
Great Britain is done. Stick a fork in her!
3 posted on 07/18/2008 6:48:42 AM PDT by wmileo (I miss Ronald Wilson Reagan. POTUS #40)
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To: Todd_Gray

No doubt these acts had nothing to do with members of the cult of Islam.


4 posted on 07/18/2008 6:49:30 AM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: DemonDeac

Yeah. That’s the first thing to occur to me. Ethnicity is left out of the story, but I wouldn’t be surprised either.


5 posted on 07/18/2008 6:53:40 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Todd_Gray
I guess the perps were race neutral.
6 posted on 07/18/2008 6:59:06 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: Turret Gunner A20
And they won’t let cops carry anything

A cop with a visibly holstered handgun twirling a nightstick will deter at least a large majority from bad behavior. Nobody wants to get whacked, and fewer want to risk being shot.

Dumb and dumber for the times we live in today.

7 posted on 07/18/2008 7:00:11 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED)
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To: Todd_Gray

It is refreshing to see that the youth in GB have such respect for authority.


8 posted on 07/18/2008 7:00:20 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running. FREE LAZAMATAZ)
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To: DemonDeac

Say goodbye to your Culture England!!!

you stupid Limey leftists.....


9 posted on 07/18/2008 7:01:50 AM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Todd_Gray
I'm thinking William Golding had the wrong island in mind when he wrote Lord Of The Flies.
10 posted on 07/18/2008 7:04:14 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: boomop1
I guess the perps were race neutral.

No, it's just a case of the MSM covering up for those rampaging Amish folks. It happens all the time.

11 posted on 07/18/2008 7:05:20 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Types_with_Fist

I dunno, there’s a large population of just plain punks in England, and there’s little respect for authority. Billy clubs might help...


12 posted on 07/18/2008 7:07:27 AM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: wmileo

IT’s sad to see England going down the sewer.The garbage
is heading for all Western civilization.


13 posted on 07/18/2008 7:09:14 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus (( commander of the simian host))
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To: Types_with_Fist
Yeah. That’s the first thing to occur to me. Ethnicity is left out of the story, but I wouldn’t be surprised either.

These may have been "Asians" or Caribbeans, but Britain has a lot of just plain homegrown, white-as-Wonder-bread troublemaking yobs, too.

14 posted on 07/18/2008 7:19:06 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: Todd_Gray

Is there nobody in Great Britain who gets upset about this kind of behavior?


15 posted on 07/18/2008 7:21:13 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Boycott Washington D.C. until they allow gun ownership)
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To: Types_with_Fist

Odds are the perps are white. Police officers are too scared to start a confrontation with ethnic minorities nowadays or they’ll be called racist.


16 posted on 07/18/2008 7:25:00 AM PDT by djsunzi
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To: Todd_Gray

Now who is viciously angry all the time and willing to attack people with whom they disagree?


17 posted on 07/18/2008 7:35:37 AM PDT by BooksForTheRight.com (Fight liberal lies with knowledge. Read conservative books and articles.)
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To: BooksForTheRight.com
Now who is viciously angry all the time and willing to attack people with whom they disagree?

Teenagers?

18 posted on 07/18/2008 7:37:21 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: Todd_Gray; DemonDeac
From Wikipedia: [2001 Census] White is the majority ethnicity with over 72%, compared to 90% in England as a whole. Black or Black British was the second-largest ethnicity, over 13%; 11.3% is South Asian. This may be somewhat misleading as earlier in the article it says that "White British" are 59.8% in 2005 estimate with an additional 6.7% being Irish or other White.

From this it appears an increasing 'foreign' population without the traditional respect for the "Bobby" police. Great Britain is reaping the whirlwind it sowed during the days of Empire. Yet they need these people to support their Health and Welfare systems in the post WW2 Socialism Delusional Utopia.

19 posted on 07/18/2008 7:42:22 AM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: jagusafr
I dunno, there’s a large population of just plain punks in England, and there’s little respect for authority. Billy clubs might help...

They call them "lager louts" if I remember correctly. The crowd could have been muslim, but it wouldn't surpris me if this was just your standard drunken white British trash.

The only time I ever found myself in a violent crowd was on a street in Cambridge- two groups of drunken white Brits got into a large brawl in the middle of the street and I just happened to be walking by. The lack of police response was shocking. The fight just kept going and going- I can't imagine a brawl like that continuing unabated in an American college town like Ann Arbor or Madison. And if that had happened in a place like NYC, the place would have been swarming with cops in minutes.

20 posted on 07/18/2008 7:45:49 AM PDT by Citizen Blade
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To: SES1066
From this it appears an increasing 'foreign' population without the traditional respect for the "Bobby" police.

Just looking briefly at the statistics, it seems that the local council is majority-Conservative and that 2 out of 3 of this area's MPs are Conservatives. This doesn't strike me as one of the bad or dangerous areas of London (those bad areas are nothing, when compared with the worst that our nation's capital has to offer).

21 posted on 07/18/2008 7:52:48 AM PDT by Citizen Blade
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To: wmileo
Great Britain is done. Stick a fork in her!

After all, the knives have now been confiscated.

22 posted on 07/18/2008 8:00:03 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: boomop1

I guess the perps were race neutral.

Does that mean they weren’t white?


23 posted on 07/18/2008 8:02:52 AM PDT by Americanexpat
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To: boomop1

I guess the perps were race neutral.

Does that mean they weren’t white?


24 posted on 07/18/2008 8:02:53 AM PDT by Americanexpat
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To: Americanexpat
The UK is finished. Europe is finished. Obama and the democrats want us to become like Europe. Go figure.
25 posted on 07/18/2008 8:06:12 AM PDT by Godwin1
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To: Americanexpat

Your guess as good as mine. The BBC motto is we are PC and will never change they celebrate homosexuality, Muslin law, and bashing Yanks, except for Osama Obama.


26 posted on 07/18/2008 8:08:33 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: Todd_Gray

I expect to see a lot more of mob action in England. The government has pushed the people into the wall with a combination of inefficiency, totalitarianism, obsession with minutiae while ignoring the real purposes of government, and terrible unfairness.

Unwilling to tackle crime, and even taking the side of criminals over the honest citizenry is asking for vigilantism. Sending police to harass the citizens will turn the citizenry against the police, either by refusal to cooperate or violent attack.

Something that has been noted is that in England, a Labour government invariably results in an explosion of alcoholism and depression. It drives the weaker people to just quit. But the stronger people become angry. And when anger is bottled up for so long, with no chance of release through a real opposition party, it is bound to come out in public disorder.

Again, there is no real political opposition in England, the political parties being near identical in their worthlessness. It is amazing that a radical party has not yet arisen, most likely outside of the system, as the government would not permit a legitimate opposition.

So will England become like Paris? Not the riots of today, but the riots of yesteryear, culminating with the guillotine?


27 posted on 07/18/2008 8:11:43 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Todd_Gray
Away goes I to Drudge. Thinking (cheers from the gallery) I could access the British Press and get some indication of the little darling's ethnic background.

I tried the Telegraph ( a little to the right) and then the incredible leftist Daily Mirror. I went on to a neat little site that has lost the charming logo of a multi-racial young ladies face- liked her! This is Annanova. At last resort I went to the sometimes "reactionary" Daily Mail. Result?

Zip zero.

I will have to access Google on the district of Croydon. I had not heard too much previously about it. As for my countrymen, they have indeed created their own monster. Orwell's 1984 and Huxley's Brave New World did not quite touch on that future. I would suggest that "The Clockwork Orange" comes closest. In that film, the powers that be, "tortured" the human rat with aversion therapy.

Today, they might send such misfits to Spain, to play golf and buy consumer products- to show them what can happen if they (delinquent thugs) make nice and behave well.

It has already happened.

28 posted on 07/18/2008 8:24:32 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: Types_with_Fist

Scottish. They bit the officers when they couldn’t find some haggis at that hour of the night. Nothing but kabob and curry shops open then... < /s >


29 posted on 07/18/2008 8:39:07 AM PDT by weegee (Obama loves America like Bill loves Hillary.)
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To: jagusafr

Time was when the rank and file members of British society would stomp the punks because they were punks. It was wrong for anyone to be assaulted just for wearing clothes with holes in them and spikey hair.

But it is also wrong to let a mob go wilding and not stand up for an orderly society.


30 posted on 07/18/2008 8:41:27 AM PDT by weegee (Obama loves America like Bill loves Hillary.)
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To: Citizen Blade
The whole thing was being recorded on tape by the security cameras that are all over England.

Why intervene when they can prosecute the last man standing instead?

31 posted on 07/18/2008 8:43:21 AM PDT by weegee (Obama loves America like Bill loves Hillary.)
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To: weegee
The whole thing was being recorded on tape by the security cameras that are all over England.

Why intervene when they can prosecute the last man standing instead?

You are probably right, sadly. I can see that attitude sinking in with a complacent police force.

But, as the NYPD showed in the 90's, the best way to fight this type of social disorder is for the cops to get on the streets and become proactive. Ignoring the little crimes just breeds an environment where larger crimes don't seem as big a deal. But if you get out there and bust people for urinating in public, having an open container or acting drunk and disorderly, you make it clear that law and order is a priority.

32 posted on 07/18/2008 8:52:59 AM PDT by Citizen Blade
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Well... come on, even if they want, the government is asking for it now. Look at the crap they are throwing on their people and tell me that (while I disagree with them attacking cops!) the people aren’t just a LITTLE fed up over there these days?


33 posted on 07/18/2008 9:03:43 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: weegee

Thanks goodness for the cameras! :googlie eyes:


34 posted on 07/18/2008 9:04:51 AM PDT by InsensitiveConservative
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To: BooksForTheRight.com
Now who is viciously angry all the time and willing to attack people with whom they disagree?

You don't really have time to read a list that long, do you?

35 posted on 07/18/2008 9:09:02 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (If the opposite of Pro is Con, what is the opposite of Progress? -- Tom Glennon)
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To: Citizen Blade

Even in this case...”Officers have been examining CCTV footage from the area.”

I’ve seen documentary coverage of police monitoring these cameras, watching someone shoplift from several businesses before making the collar.

I’ve also witnessed chases where the perp gets away with dozens of officers in the area.

Some would rather build a case than stop the crime in action.


36 posted on 07/18/2008 10:40:39 AM PDT by weegee (Obama loves America like Bill loves Hillary.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

These yobs make America’s lowest class look positively refined by comparison.


37 posted on 07/18/2008 3:22:20 PM PDT by Scarpetta (e pluribus victim)
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To: Scarpetta

LOL.


38 posted on 07/18/2008 3:25:45 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running. FREE LAZAMATAZ)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Canadian police departments are recruiting heavily from English departments. There was a story a few months ago where the former Met officers were amazed at how well they were treated by the citizens of Calgary. People wave at them with all five fingers.

http://www.emigrate2.co.uk/jobs_and_money_detail-61.htm


39 posted on 07/18/2008 3:35:34 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: MediaMole

I don’t doubt that.


40 posted on 07/18/2008 4:38:47 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running. FREE LAZAMATAZ)
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To: BlazingArizona
"After all, the knives have now been confiscated."

Good Point!

41 posted on 07/20/2008 8:32:11 AM PDT by wmileo (I miss Ronald Wilson Reagan. POTUS #40)
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To: Bob
those rampaging Amish folks

Those damned Amish cause ALL the trouble in this country. ALL OF IT. Including the religion-based beheadings.

Great thing about them, too, is I can say whatever I want about them on the internet, because they'll never read it.

42 posted on 07/20/2008 8:37:43 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (I have Zero Tolerance for Zero Tolerance policies.)
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