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Once Bitter Rivals, McCain and Romney Make Up
New York Times ^ | July 18, 2008 | MICHAEL COOPER and MICHAEL LUO

Posted on 07/18/2008 3:10:48 PM PDT by kingattax

It was not so long ago that the idea that Senator John McCain would even entertain tapping Mitt Romney, his bitterest primary rival, as his running mate would have seemed preposterous. On the strange-bedfellows scale, it would have ranked somewhere between Tom teaming up with Jerry and the Red Sox joining forces with the Yankees.

The McCain-Romney feud was the juiciest of the Republican primary season, featuring two men who generally just did not seem to like each other. Mr. Romney said Mr. McCain would set a “liberal Democrat course as president.” He said that one of Mr. McCain’s proudest accomplishments, his campaign finance bill, took “a whack at the First Amendment,” and told voters grappling with money woes that Mr. McCain “has said time and again that he doesn’t understand the economy.” Mr. McCain, for his part, witheringly cast Mr. Romney as a flip-flopper.

But that was then.

These days Mr. Romney, the telegenic former Massachusetts governor, is serving as a wingman extraordinaire for Mr. McCain. He is ubiquitous on cable television, where he talked up Mr. McCain’s economic proposals on CNN, Fox News and MSNBC on Wednesday alone. He has dutifully raised money for Mr. McCain. And Mr. Romney has developed a reputation as a campaign surrogate who can talk fluently about the economy, and who has roots in Michigan, an important swing state. Now Mr. Romney is attracting perhaps more buzz than anyone else as a potential running mate for the man he once derided.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008veep; mccain; romney

1 posted on 07/18/2008 3:10:49 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax
Romney as VP is the 'wet dream' of the New York Times, the Democrats and the MSM.

Proof:

DNC stategist James Carville: "It's a feel-good story, this Romney thing. Romney is an ascendant guy."

Anyone care to quess why?

2 posted on 07/18/2008 3:15:09 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis

it’s a feel good story for RINOs...and one who actually looks like one.


3 posted on 07/18/2008 3:17:20 PM PDT by ari-freedom (McCain must pick a conservative VP if he wants conservative support)
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To: Diogenesis

If CarVile said this I’d like to hear, what your thoughts are.


4 posted on 07/18/2008 3:17:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Annapolis, flight school, Congress, Senate, MIAs, Keating 5, Soros, Kerry... tried & found wanting!)
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To: Diogenesis

Two white crackers to slam for ten weeks?


5 posted on 07/18/2008 3:18:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Annapolis, flight school, Congress, Senate, MIAs, Keating 5, Soros, Kerry... tried & found wanting!)
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To: kingattax

In my book, the worst choice Sen. McCain could make for VP.


6 posted on 07/18/2008 3:23:42 PM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: kingattax

Mitt was a conservative who played lib to become Gov of a lib state—now he is just a conservative.
He’s too good to be McCain’s Veep—but good enough for America IMHO—especially when one considers many of the others that may be on the Head RINO’s list.


7 posted on 07/18/2008 3:24:35 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Obama--Immanentize The Eschaton Unplugged.")
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To: Happy Rain

Can’t trust a guy who pretends liberal so well he becomes the first to pass universal healthcare.


8 posted on 07/18/2008 3:26:01 PM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: kingattax

The RINO relic is what he is. Romney is not going to get him my vote. Lieberman would be he best choice. As a Jew, Lieberman can attack Barry on his pro Islamic leanings and have a show his attacks come out of consistent positions. McCain was nominated by the big blue states but he is not going to win any of them. Leiberman could help in PA, Oh, Fl, and Virginia and I think he could help him in Mo as well. I do not see Romney helping him as much in those states as Lieberman.


9 posted on 07/18/2008 3:27:21 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: ari-freedom
Mr. Romney later joked at a fund-raiser for Mr. McCain that Mr. McCain had identified 57 varieties of birds on his ranch, but that after a weekend of grilling it was down to 47.

“He knows how to identify birds, how to shoot birds, and how to cook birds!” Mr. Romney said at the fund-raiser last month in Boston, according to a pool report.

How insensitive! There goes the PETA vote!

10 posted on 07/18/2008 3:28:26 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Vigilanteman

EVER NOTICE HOW MITT’S WIFE ALWAYS STANDS IN THE BACKGROUND WHILE HE’S SPEAKING , LOOKING SO BITTER , LIKE SHE’S ALWAYS ABOUT TO CRY. SORT OF LIKE SUE ELLEN EWING STANDING BEHIND J.R. LIKE SHE WANTS TO PUKE.

MAKES YOU WONDER ... WHAT KIND OF A GUY IS HE REALLY.
WHAT IS SHE HIDING.


11 posted on 07/18/2008 3:30:44 PM PDT by RED SOUTH
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To: Diogenesis
You really need to get over it. McCain is going to have to choose someone, and there are simply not enough solid conservative Republicans to choose for VP. He can't choose anyone in the Senate or House because it would not balance the ticket - he needs someone with executive experience.

Palin and Jindal are too raw, Sanford basically shot himself in the foot with that Wolf Blizter interview, and Huckabee, Perry, and Crist are even worse than Romney. Pawlenty? Forget it. Romney is the perfect, logical choice for McCain. You can scream all you want and post Romney's record and flip-flops to the choir here that everyone is familiar with until the cows come home, but Romney's looking more and more like the VP, to your chagrin.

12 posted on 07/18/2008 3:33:32 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (BARACK OBAMA WILL SAVE US! HE HAS RISEN!!)
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To: RED SOUTH

Caps lock stuck?


13 posted on 07/18/2008 3:33:44 PM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: RED SOUTH
"EVER NOTICE HOW MITT’S WIFE ALWAYS STANDS IN THE BACKGROUND WHILE HE’S SPEAKING , LOOKING SO BITTER ,"

The GOP must attract Democratic women to win.

Romney: “Make all the promises you have to...

Guilty


Not Guilty



There is but one logical choice.

The "Warrior and the Woman" (will Win BIG
attacting a large fraction of the pro-Hillary frustrated Democrat women.)


14 posted on 07/18/2008 3:35:52 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Romney has ‘shot himself’ by pandering to Democrats, and installing Democratic issues, including HillaryCARE.


15 posted on 07/18/2008 3:37:24 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: RED SOUTH

Maybe it has something to do with Mitt’s wife suffering from MS. Get over it.


16 posted on 07/18/2008 3:39:24 PM PDT by Abbeville Conservative (Just a bitter South Carolinian clinging to my religion and guns.)
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To: Diogenesis
Romney has ‘shot himself’ by pandering to Democrats, and installing Democratic issues, including HillaryCARE.

That was then, this is now. Unlike McCain, Romney has reached out to conservatives during the primaries, and other aspects of his record in Mass. was still more conservative than most GOP Governors.

I don't know about you, but I'm willing to take Romney's positives over his negatives and roll the dice, keeping the WH in GOP hands rather than risking the Rats controlling virtually all three branches of government.

17 posted on 07/18/2008 3:42:51 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (BARACK OBAMA WILL SAVE US! HE HAS RISEN!!)
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To: greatvikingone

Looking for the perfect politician aka perfect oxymoron?

I was a Fred Head until Mitt,Mike,and McCain were the only one’s left.Mitt was the only one close to a real conservative left and all three of the top conservative talkradio hosts agreed with me.
Do you want Lieberman,Lindsay Graham,Huckabee or Gawd knows who else as the Veep?
McCain is not going to select any conservative who called or insinuated that he was a RINO—and that removes 99% of the good ones.
What do you want—egg in your beer?
Lets think about realistic options for America!


18 posted on 07/18/2008 3:44:47 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Obama--Immanentize The Eschaton Unplugged.")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

19 posted on 07/18/2008 3:46:37 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis

McCain/Romney = certain defeat in November.


20 posted on 07/18/2008 3:46:42 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

DITTOS!!!


21 posted on 07/18/2008 3:47:21 PM PDT by moondoggie
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

McCain can do what he wants but I simply won’t vote for him if he picks Romney, that’s all.


22 posted on 07/18/2008 3:47:57 PM PDT by ari-freedom (McCain must pick a conservative VP if he wants conservative support)
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To: kingattax

Romney is someone you can easily imagine stepping in to the role of POTUS if something happened to McCain. He looks presidential, he sounds presidential, and he has executive level experience as a former Govenor.

Romney is perceived as having good financial experience and judgement, which is a big plus with the economy going through a rough patch this year.

Romney on the ticket could help somewhat in Michigan, Utah and Nevada.

Romney does a really good job making the case for McCain, and against Obama.

Romney has deep pockets, and is also good at raising money.


23 posted on 07/18/2008 3:49:24 PM PDT by Califelephant
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To: kingattax

The MSM might be presently hiding something very bad about Mitt Romney to want to write such a article as this about Mitt. The MSM will truly continue to get even uglier against all of the GOP and against all of U.S. conservatism as the November 4 election gets closer and closer.


24 posted on 07/18/2008 3:51:28 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Vote for conservatives AT ALL POLITICAL LEVELS! Encourage all others to do the same on November 4!)
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To: kingattax

Romney is the man who can put some energy into McCain.


25 posted on 07/18/2008 3:53:33 PM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: RED SOUTH
note to red south:

Mrs. Romney has Multiple Sclerosis

try to take it easy....
26 posted on 07/18/2008 3:57:53 PM PDT by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nilhilism)
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To: Califelephant

Finally,someone who gets it!

Mitt made mistakes,but that was then and this is now.

I can’t believe any conservative who heard or read his concession speach—his TRUE feelings—could be hating him still!

Mitt ain’t the best but he’s the best McCain will give us.
A little faith couldn’t hurt cause none at all sure as Hell ain’t helping.


27 posted on 07/18/2008 3:58:09 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Obama--Immanentize The Eschaton Unplugged.")
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To: Califelephant

Dude, if Juanito is going to lose Utah, we can all give it up right now...


28 posted on 07/18/2008 3:59:44 PM PDT by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nilhilism)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Romney's looking more and more like the VP, to your chagrin.

You are exactly right. He goes the Romney haters again. They will never learn. Obviously we still have the liberal nuts that are trying to put the McCain ticket down.

29 posted on 07/18/2008 4:12:12 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: kingattax

Funny, the first image in my mind after reading the title was of Algore and Tipper.


30 posted on 07/18/2008 4:33:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (Drill or get off the Hill. ... call Nancy Pelosi @ 202 - 225 - 0100)
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To: Fred
Mrs. Romney has Multiple Sclerosis

Good to point this but all the Romney haters on FR probably won't believe it.
31 posted on 07/18/2008 4:39:11 PM PDT by Bobkk47
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To: Fred

I’m re-posting this, but removing the state of Utah, due to Fred’s objection.

Romney is someone you can easily imagine stepping in to the role of POTUS if something happened to McCain. He looks presidential, he sounds presidential, and he has executive level experience as a former Govenor.

Romney is perceived as having good financial experience and judgement, which is a big plus with the economy going through a rough patch this year.

Romney on the ticket could help somewhat in Michigan and Nevada.

Romney does a really good job making the case for McCain, and against Obama.

Romney has deep pockets, and is also good at raising money.


32 posted on 07/18/2008 4:50:51 PM PDT by Califelephant
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To: All

Has anyone else noticed how many Freeper oldtimers are on this thread?
All,most,some or none may be full of crap but ya gotta respect their opinions if only because of their longevity on this site.


33 posted on 07/18/2008 5:22:20 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Obama--Immanentize The Eschaton Unplugged.")
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To: Vigilanteman

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!


34 posted on 07/18/2008 5:26:18 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Happy Rain
Has anyone else noticed how many Freeper oldtimers are on this thread? All,most,some or none may be full of crap but ya gotta respect their opinions if only because of their longevity on this site.

I'm a Romney guy and I certainly qualify as a FR oldtimer, I was standing tall at the FR March for Justice rally in Washington, DC back on a beautiful fall day October 31, 1998.

35 posted on 07/18/2008 5:30:51 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: BluH2o

bttt

Romney guy who started posting 7 years ago.


36 posted on 07/18/2008 5:32:14 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Califelephant

I would add to Romney’s positives that he’s a solid family man with a beautiful family. I very much doubt that skeletons are going to fall out of Romney’s closet. And he has both a J.D. AND an M.B.A which he earned simultaneously at Harvard. While he was getting his degrees, he was also taking care of his family and serving as the chief minister for the Mormon stake in his part of Massachusetts. The guy has some serious brains; he’s telegenic; he can give inspiring speeches; and he is able to deliver hard hitting political arguments succintly and logically. He would be one formidable V.P. for McCain. Nobody else even comes close—certainly not that whimpy-looking governor from Minnesota or Bobby Jindal who’s even younger than Obama. Romney is a slam dunk for the job.


37 posted on 07/18/2008 5:36:34 PM PDT by WestSylvanian
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To: BluH2o

Most,if not all pre-9/11 Freepers are a singular bunch.
THAT event made more conservatives than Jimmy Carter.
Not to say post 9/11 Freepers are “Johnny-Come-Latelys” it’s just that some were already post 9/11 before 9/11.
In other words,either awake or had early access to the internet.


38 posted on 07/18/2008 5:41:02 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Obama--Immanentize The Eschaton Unplugged.")
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To: Happy Rain
Most,if not all pre-9/11 Freepers are a singular bunch.

Brought together by a total distaste for the "Slickster" and his cronies ... both within his administration and the liberal MSM that aided & abetted the POS.

39 posted on 07/18/2008 5:48:25 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: BluH2o

Too true.

Unfortunatly,Liberal Democrats,The MSM,and The RINOs made America just another special interest group standing in line with the rest.


40 posted on 07/18/2008 5:54:27 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Obama--Immanentize The Eschaton Unplugged.")
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To: Happy Rain

Romney simply isn’t electable. He spent more money that the rest of the GOP candidates combined and blatantly pandered at every turn and yet he still couldn’t McCain or Huckabee.

I don’t know who McCain should pick, but Romney would be a bad choice. Very, very bad.


41 posted on 07/18/2008 6:45:53 PM PDT by zebrahead
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Romney is the perfect, logical choice for McCain. You can scream all you want and post Romney's record and flip-flops to the choir here that everyone is familiar with until the cows come home, but Romney's looking more and more like the VP, to your chagrin.

Yep. And seeing as how it's becoming more and more apparent that even a lot of Democrats can't stomach Obama, guess who's going to elect them?

Democrats. McCain-Romney is a GREAT alternative for the majority of Democrats. The two philosophically endorse Liberal growth of government in social engineering and government regulation via global warming, health care, and open homosexuality (forcing all to accept it or else!). The differences are in Foreign Policy and the WOT, as if a single president has ever had complete control over America's policies without pretty strong support of congress and the people. And as if Obama, if president, wouldn't quickly skitter this way and that in indecision, and probably maintain the status quo.

How convenient for all those poor, conscience-stricken Democrats who cannot vote for Obama because he's a scam and they know it. With easy conscience and confident enthusiasm they can AND WILL vote for a McCain/Romney ticket. Then there's a very good chance that we'll have the equivalent of eight years of Arnold Schwarzenegger Magnified.

ON THE OTHER HAND, if Obama won (which he won't ... Hillary may sneak back in their anyway), there's a slim, wimpy, sloppy chance that he might do some real damage, but it's much more likely it would go like this: he'd be unpopular and trounced and scorned and derided but FAST. He'd have no support, he'd be led by the nose this way and that, and four years would create a mess for the Democrat party and a sharp jab in the eye of Liberalism, and in two years a lot of folks would realize that:

Liberalism doesn't win and Democrats elected a first-class ass hat.

Then Republicans would gain seats in Congress. Republican politicians would get the drift of the ship, which is that the votes won't materialize if they're Liberal. The war here is against Liberalism. It is not against the Democrat party, it is against Liberalism.

I want to win that war. I want to tack the ship in that direction, and the only way I as an individual voter can do it is by withholding my vote from McCain. There is no "message." There is doing what small part I can to direct course.

But alas, it won't matter because Democrats will elect these two clowns, and Republcans will allow it because they are shivering in blind fear.

You aren't thinking things through coldly and calmly. You're shivering, cowering, twitching with fear. And the history from which the next generation of fools will "learn" from will be that Republicans elected McCain and Romney.

Steering the country in that direction is what you want me to do with my vote, and I'm telling you: NOPE.

42 posted on 07/18/2008 7:57:07 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Finny
You aren't thinking things through coldly and calmly. You're shivering, cowering, twitching with fear.

You've just described the average GOP RINO voter.

43 posted on 07/18/2008 8:02:20 PM PDT by TADSLOS (45 Days and a Wakeup for the GOP to use the Nuclear Option.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

In a nutshell, your post sums up exactly how I feel about this VP race.


44 posted on 07/18/2008 8:35:27 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: RED SOUTH

No, never noticed that about her. I’ve only seen her with a pleasant look on her face. She is very supportive of her husband.


45 posted on 07/18/2008 8:42:00 PM PDT by BlueAngel
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To: Finny

Golly you’re just so smart.

The way you can turn to our Marines and soldiers and say that everything they’ve bled and died for is just so much crap... That it matters more to let Obama get elected and plunge the country into a bad enough place that we’ll all learn our lesson and decide to elect real conservatives next time around, assuming that there is a next time...

Brilliant. Maybe it’ll work.


46 posted on 07/18/2008 8:50:25 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius
It's a risk, yes. Stop with the guilt trip about the Marines and soldiers. You attribute things to McCain that I don't.

Of course it's a gamble, but let go of your perception of it having anything to do with "learn our lesson."

You're driving a car, and you flick the right turn signal. That's sending a message. Your brain sends a message to your hands to pull right on the steering wheel. When your hands pull right, they're not sending a message, they're changing the direction of the car.

The vote I cast is my hand turning the wheel. There's no "message." Only affect. You must understand that. I understand that you're doing the same thing, taking the same gamble, except in a directio that I think has proven pretty solidly over the past 15 years, ain't cuttin' it.

Voting isn't about sending messages. It's about changing course.

You are panicked in your appraisal of Obama, I think.

I guess the question really is, who's playing chicken?

47 posted on 07/19/2008 12:00:31 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Ramius
On further thought ... you should love my post 42 because I'm telling you I think McCain's going to win this thing. I'm telling you don't worry, he's got it aced, especially if he has Romney with him. Sure as hell McCain will be elected.

And Democrats are the ones who are going to elect him.

You have a problem with that conclusion?

48 posted on 07/19/2008 12:26:52 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: RED SOUTH

As somone who knows her and the family, I can tell you with confidence: you are way, way, WAY off base.


49 posted on 07/20/2008 4:48:50 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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