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Islam body to guide UK govt
Times of India ^

Posted on 07/18/2008 8:44:10 PM PDT by milestogo

Islam body to guide UK govt 19 Jul 2008, 0028 hrs IST, Rashmee Roshan Lall,TNN

LONDON: Britain has taken the lead among Western countries with large resident Muslim communities to fund a board of Islamic theologians who will pronounce on some of the knottiest, most controversial issues of faith such as women's rights and kamikaze religiosity, in what many see as an attempt to create an Anglo-Saxon version of Islam.

The British body, which is yet to be given a name, will bring together 20 leading Islamist thinkers. It will be financially sponsored by the government but is advertised as committed to the baseline of independent thought, with no reference to political considerations.

The British body will be distinct from its five-year-old French forbear, the Council for the Muslim Religion and will have more authority and weight than the UK's most important, existing Muslim representative body, the Muslim Council of Britain.

Analysts said the new British body has emerged as an attempt to sideline violent extremists who preach a hate-filled version of Islam dedicated to the destruction of Western systems and patterns of thought.

The new British body, which was publicly endorsed as a good idea whose time has come by communities secretary Hazel Blears, will see Oxford and Cambridge Universities host a group of scholars to lead the debate on key British Muslim issues such as women's rights and responsibilities and loyalty to the host country, Britain.

Radical Muslims have rejected the idea as a transparent ploy to create a British state-sponsored Islam that will be seen as a sham by most of Britain's several-million-strong Muslim community.

But the new British board for Islam is seen as a significant indication of the way Western governments are likely to tackle the issue of huge numbers of disaffected, alienated, resident Muslim communities.

Like Britain, France and Germany - the other two western European countries with large Muslim populations - already have bodies to represent Muslim opinion.

Scholars told TOI it was notable that Germany's four largest, mainly conservative Muslim associations got together in March 2007 to establish the Coordination Council of Muslims in order to define the terms of negotiation for the process of developing a consensus in society over the integration of Islam in the host country.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: dhimmi; eurabia; londonistan; muslims

1 posted on 07/18/2008 8:44:10 PM PDT by milestogo
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To: milestogo

Good luck Britain!


2 posted on 07/18/2008 8:45:16 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (WE NEED A TROOP SURGE IN CHICAGO !)
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To: milestogo

no wonder lots of the young, educated brits are moving to socal!


3 posted on 07/18/2008 8:46:09 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: milestogo

You folks better watch the UN also. They have a commitee now looking at making it an International crime to say or print anything bad about Muslims.....no matter what country you are in.


4 posted on 07/18/2008 8:47:53 PM PDT by RC2
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To: milestogo

Idiots.


5 posted on 07/18/2008 8:47:58 PM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: verity
"Idiots."

You might have just solved their little dilemma:

The British body, which is yet to be given a name, will bring together 20 leading Islamist thinkers.

6 posted on 07/18/2008 8:51:15 PM PDT by Genesis defender
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

It is headed for here also.


7 posted on 07/18/2008 8:52:45 PM PDT by sport
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

And yet this country once ruled the world. Take heed America, your turn is next!


8 posted on 07/18/2008 8:53:51 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: Genesis defender

Let’s formalize it: The Supreme Council of Idiots. ;-)


9 posted on 07/18/2008 8:56:26 PM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: doc1019

Churchill must be rolling over in his grave!


10 posted on 07/18/2008 8:58:58 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (WE NEED A TROOP SURGE IN CHICAGO !)
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To: verity
The Supreme Council of Idiots.

Sounds like something out of a Monty Python sketch.

If this had happened in the early 70's, John Cleese, Graham Chapman (RIP) and the rest of the boys would have had a field day with it.

11 posted on 07/18/2008 9:02:13 PM PDT by Genesis defender
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To: doc1019
And yet this country once ruled the world.
Take heed America, your turn is next!


Precisely.

That's the message I post on FR if a Fellow Freeper bashes
the UK over their apparent application for membership in the
the order of Islamic Republics.

Right now, I'm trying to wrap my mind around the bend-over deal
the government in Manila is making with the Islamic @$$holes
of Zamboanga/Southern Phillipines.

But, still I wonder what has happened to the gray matter of
the prominent personages of the UK, The Phillipines and otherwise
formerly sane places.

And PRAY we don't continue down the same slippery slope to dhimmitude.
12 posted on 07/18/2008 9:06:44 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Hey, we might be electing one as President - the Obomination! His brother is a Muslim and so are many other memebers of his family. I don’t believe a word Obama says about that. He’s pathological liar and a street punk.


13 posted on 07/18/2008 9:08:30 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

I don’t propose to know were Churchill is spending his eternal afternoons, but, I would guess he gave up on the UK many decades ago.


14 posted on 07/18/2008 9:09:03 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: nmh; Chieftain

But an “eloquent “ street punk that remains aloof and calm...that’s why his schtick works so well , unlike Jesse Jackson or in the past the Black Panthers. Obama is a street punk that doesn’t “look “ scairy.

Enter stage left...The Magic Negro!


15 posted on 07/18/2008 9:12:14 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (WE NEED A TROOP SURGE IN CHICAGO !)
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To: VOA

Not only are our leaders going to keep us on the slope, they are going to increase the speed.

If the Democrats win the WhiteHouse in November. 2009 will be when things start happening quick. Because the Democrats have several little plans to help the muslims along they are waiting to spring.

If the Republicans retain the WhiteHouse, it will take a while longer.


16 posted on 07/18/2008 9:14:59 PM PDT by sport
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To: RC2
Islam is a false religion established by a pedophile.

They are welcome to come see me about my comment. I have an answer. It involves lead.

/johnny

17 posted on 07/18/2008 9:22:54 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: VOA

Unfortunately, we are well on our liberal way down the dhimmitude (?) path of destruction. As I have stated many times in this chat room … I’m glad I old and shan’t be around long enough to witness the Islamifacation of the US. In the same voice, I will also proclaim, as a lifelong student of the Bible, Islam will never conquer the world.


18 posted on 07/18/2008 9:23:03 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: nmh
Even worse...he's a sitzpinkler.

Cheers!

19 posted on 07/18/2008 9:30:09 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: milestogo
... in what many see as an attempt to create an Anglo-Saxon version of Islam.

I knew this jackass had to be working some angle:

"[belief in the Trinity] is difficult, sometimes offensive, to Muslims".

When his current church disintegrates, he'll just mosey on over to The Mosque of England.

20 posted on 07/18/2008 9:30:22 PM PDT by FredZarguna (In vino Possumus.)
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To: milestogo
"But the new British board for Islam is seen as a significant indication of the way Western governments are likely to tackle the issue of huge numbers of disaffected, alienated, resident Muslim communities.

Uhh...I think I see the problem.

21 posted on 07/18/2008 10:06:46 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: milestogo

This is it: Britain is done.


22 posted on 07/19/2008 12:04:40 AM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: FredZarguna

the archbastard should cut his own pathetic, sniveling dhimmi head off and save his Muslim overlords the trouble. I hate that POS.


23 posted on 07/19/2008 12:04:44 AM PDT by americanophile
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To: milestogo

Put a fork in them. they’re about done..


24 posted on 07/19/2008 12:19:33 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: americanophile

Unfortunately for our friends across the pond, I don’t think that moment is as far off as they’d like to kid themselves into believing.


25 posted on 07/19/2008 12:40:42 AM PDT by FredZarguna (In vino Possumus.)
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To: Genesis defender

From observing things at a distance, I have to think that Britain is now under a form of totalitarianism. Monty Python could freely make fun of anything, but that was 30 years ago. I suspect that if anyone mocked those who want to impose Sharia on Britain, they would soon be brought before some bogus “human rights commission” and given a show trial.


26 posted on 07/19/2008 3:32:02 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: milestogo

One of the two sides will give in to the other. Hint: it’s not the one that slices heads off and makes videos of the event as part of religious celebrations.


27 posted on 07/19/2008 3:50:28 AM PDT by BooksForTheRight.com (Fight liberal lies with knowledge. Read conservative books and articles.)
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