Skip to comments.[China] Candid Camera: Severe Atmosphere, Beijing Police Patrol with Assault Weapons for First Time
Posted on 07/19/2008 2:00:56 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
Candid Camera: Severe Atmosphere, Beijing Police Patrol with Assault Weapons for First Time
Jul 18, 2008 - 3:09:14 PM
With less than 20 days until the Olympics, Beijing's streets have seen an increase in Peoples Armed Police in full riot gear, police with special duties and regular beat police. The police are carrying semi-automatic assault weapons for the first time. From the grim expressions on these policemen's faces, it is clear that they are prepared for a surprise attack. Beijing citizens expressed to Boxun that not even after the military crackdown in Tiananmen Square in 1989 did police take to the streets with machine guns, it feels like they are confronting a mortal enemy and has the feeling of a war zone like Iraq.
According to our news sources, in the whole-hearted commitment to hosting a safe and secure Olympics, these police are given an opportunity to play with these guns. At different times Beijing has declared that they would host a "Green Olympics," "Humane Olympics," "Science and Technology Olympics," and "Good Luck Beijing." None of these slogans were ever raised again. A "Secure and Peaceful Olympics" has superceded all, with slogans about security dominating streets. For all these years, the mainland's masses have become accustomed to expecting the opposite of the propaganda in mainstream media. These phenomena indicate that the Olympics may be anything but secure and peaceful.
In a related news item, it has been reported that in order to accommodate all these armed police, scientific institutions have been cleared out. In one scientific research institution, more than 800 armed police are being billeted.
So what’s the big deal? All police here carry semiautomatic weapons. So so I when I’m carrying.
What do would we expect them to carry? Slingshots?
The police are carrying semi-automatic assault weapons for the first time.
I wonder how that information was obtained. Must not be too bad if you can saunter up to a cop and ask, "is that a real assault weapon or just a semi-auto model?"
Are those first two characters something like “peaceful and secure” or a reference to Beijing or what?
Well, in the balance between Liberty and Security, they've certainly made their choice well-known. Totalitarian states are generally quite peaceful!
Sadly, far too many people, world-wide, would choose Security over Freedom in almost every case.
NOTE: Looks like poor trigger-discipline in photo #4.
I dunno, from the looks of that young lady, she might whip out a rabid "Hello Kitty" on us any second...
Really, I don't mind seeing the extra security for our folks visiting in China. We all know that their military police have had plenty of practice shooting in the area...
I’ve been hanging around Beijing for over a month now and have seen just one armed officer—that was in Shanghai next to a cash station that was being filled with cash. There are plenty of police around Beijing, but if their armed at all, I can’t tell. Maybe things are different up by the Olympic village, but the places I’ve been seem totally benign.
Are you in Beijing right now? I am, and I haven’t seen a single AK-47 on any street corner. I haven’t been on every street corner, so it’s possible there may be one somewhere, but I haven’t seen a one since arriving in Beijing over a month ago.
My goodness, no. I’m just an honest observer. You don’t want me to lie, do you? You don’t want to spread or act on false information do you?
I’m an American and I have no “betters.” I simply dispute the many of the claims of the stories. There are no ak-47s on every street corner, though I’m sure there are some on some street corners. I think I would hope for the same if the Olympics were held in the U.S. Moreover, it is not the case that all outdoor restaurants are being banned or that blacks are not being served.
I’m not a commie tool or anything like that. I’m just trying to report and explain what I see here.
The photos with cops armed with assault weapons appear to be near some subway station or something, from the look of it.
So do you think the report is highlighting the fact that police(at least some of them) started to brandish assault weapons openly for the first time? That may be what the article wants to come across, and it is used as an indication of massive security presence intensifying. I heard that locals put up with long lines at the subway stations during their daily commute. Some well-to-do folks reportedly skipped the town altogether, trying to get away from hassles.
Probably because of that, ordinary Chinese are more sensitive to react to this kind of scene, unlike visitors. You must have no visa problem or accommodations. I hear other reports saying that some foreigners were kicked out and many have troubling getting in. Are you a journalist covering Olympic game?
I’m just a tourist visiting friends here. I’ve heard there are some problems for people (Chinese and western alike) trying to enter the city. There are apparently some roadblocks out there and people have been delayed coming to work. As far as the subway goes, we’ve had no trouble at all. Easy on, easy off, though if you have a large bag they’ll ask you to run it through the x-ray.
I am staying in the city, just inside the 4th ring road. I also should say that I haven’t tried to take the subway to the Olympic area, though we’ve driven by it without trouble.
I keep waiting for some problem to happen—but so far all is smooth sailing here.
I don’t wish to convince you or anyone. I’m just reporting what I’ve seen and experienced over the past month. You can believe whatever you like.
Sorry, but being here in Beijing, I just thought it would be appropriate for me to describe what I’m seeing. I’m really not a bad fellow, and if you see my earlier posts (the ones not about China) you may find you agree with some of them.
Granted I haven’t been here long, but I am a loyal, conservative, Republican. But I do favor accuracy in reporting.
I see this officer has brought his lunch on a leash.
I appreciate your reporting here, I see no reason whatever to doubt your information. Enjoy your stay in China and a safe return home.
I’m sure there are thousands of western leftists in China willing to serve as tour guides for the latest Potemkin village.
Photos certainly look more benign than Heathrow, 1991.
I understand very well how different the media's version of an event can be from the reality.
Will you be there during the Games?
Let me say this very carefully. In my very limited experience, the security officials in China were far more polite, to the locals as well as me, than their American counter parts.
Yes, I know that China is a foul dictatorship. But the impression I got was that, as a matter of policy, the security people are exceedingly polite -- right up to the point that you really annoy them. Then, of course, they drag you off, hold a quick show trial, ending in a speedy execution, or long term of hard labor on starvation rations. It is the old iron fist in the velvet glove.
But most people in China, knowing the score, knowing that if they over power the local beat cop with a 9mm, a regiment of tanks will roll through the neighborhood, don't get that crossways with security officials. Seeing a lot of guys running around with automatic weapons, I can see that the locals may be very concerned that those automatic weaps will be used on them.
Yep hes a chicom troll.
Are you a mouthpiece for the Communists?........................................................
Yes. Been here 2 weeks, yet calls himself a Reagan Republican. Me thinks he is a young Chinese national working a summer job for his government.
“I appreciate your reporting here, I see no reason whatever to doubt your information. Enjoy your stay in China and a safe return home.”
Thank you much! We’ll head for home in about 3 weeks, just before the games begin.
Thanks Allegra! We will leave here the day before the games begin.
Thanks! I’m sure you’re right about there being differences in security from sector to sector. I guess the closer I travel to the games site, and the nearer before they begin, the stricter the security will be. About three weeks ago we traveled freely around the area where they’ll have the Decathalon. It’s a beautiful site (and sight!).
Thanks Tainan. The food here is wonderful. Are you from Tainan? I’ve been there too!
It is going to be funny watching the leftist western media, sugar-coating the beefed up security.
They’ll do stories about the muslim minority and possibility of terrorist attack (which is a possibility). But, make no mistake the beefed up security is meant to be intimidating and coercive to anybody who would dare protest the communist government in China.
There will be no or little protesting and I’m sure the hardline message is being sent out in no uncertain terms as we speak.
Did anybody see the Ted Koppel (ugg) special, I missed it but did tape parts 3 and 4.
In my experience the “guys running around with automatic weapons” also carry sufficient ammunition for their autos. That’s a pretty reliable indicator of what a man is carrying.
What does the sign say?
First, welcome to FRee Republic!
Second, you are protesting that you are a Reagan Conservative.
Real conservatives usually don't label themselves as a "Reagan conservative" -- generally they argue positions on the issues in such a way that observers can figure out that they are Reagan conservatives.
Third, inveighing against deregulation of airlines, and pushing for Amtrak subsidies, somehow goes against the spirit of Reagan conservatism -- think of PATCO...
Fourth, your diction is a little *too* crisp, each sentence reads as though it came out of an English primer.
Methinks I smell something a little bit off about your posts.
But I'll reserve judgment for now.
Well, thanks. I guess. I used the term Reagan conservative to indicate my admiration for him; one of the 2 or 3 greatest American presidents of all time. But I guess in hindsight I may have changed my mind on a few points over the years.
I love what he did with PATCO, but air travel in the US today is simply terrible compared to what’s available in much of the rest of the world. Is it ok for us to disagree on some of these things?
People are suspicious because of past troll coming in here. So, please don’t take it personally. It seems like whenever something big happens in China, there are people relatively new on here touting the Chinese line.
Welcome to FR. Just out of curiousity, what led you to Reagan conservatism. Were you a Democrat first?
I for one appreciate your reporting and don’t believe for a second you are a Chinese troll.
I was in Beijing in late May, early June, staying in a Hutong near the Drum Tower and saw minimal security. That of course is the thing with communist countries, you never know “who is security”. That being said, it doesn’t surprise me that as we get closer to 8/8/08 you see more public displays of security for a number of reasons.
If I could find the article, there was a good writeup on why train travel will never be tenable in the US as it is in Europe or Japan (in a word, distance).
Train travel might be good for a few "short-hop" routes -- LA to San Diego or Santa Barbara, Portland-Seattle, New York-Boston, that kind of thing.
But mass-transit in the US (including light rail) has typically needed gobs and gobs and oodles of taxpayer subsidies to work: and often, a disproportionate share of those on mass transit tend to be, well, what the press calls "youths" when they riot in Paris.
As far as the air travel, I think they put something in the water in the C-level suites at airlines and at US auto manufacturers. It's not deregulation, it's stupidity. And have you seen (sorry, I looked for > 10 min and couldn't find it) a story that many air carriers are forced to run short-hop routes with occupancy rates of 10-20% (e.g. Minneapolis to Mesabi, MN) in return for an (inadequate) subsidy, directly by Federal Law?
“I dont wish to convince you or anyone. Im just reporting what Ive seen and experienced over the past month.”
So you’re on vacation in China and just HAD to come to Free Republic, create an account on June 29th, and begin reporting? We’re so lucky you have nothing better to do.
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