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Slim Majority of California Voters Would Uphold Gay Marriage, Poll Finds ( Sample of 672 )
Los Angeles Times ^ | July 19, 2008 | Jessica Garrison and Dan Morain

Posted on 07/19/2008 7:05:48 AM PDT by kellynla

A bare majority of California voters would continue to allow gay marriage, according to a new poll released Friday.

The Field Poll of 672 likely voters found that 51% oppose Proposition 8, which would amend the state Constitution to define marriage as only between a man and woman. Forty-two percent of voters support the November ballot measure.

Poll director Mark DiCamillo said the results indicate a substantial change among voters since 2000, when Proposition 22, a similar ballot measure, was approved with 61% of the vote.

Proposition 22 and other laws that discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation were found to be unconstitutional by the California Supreme Court in May, and gay couples began holding weddings last month.

DiCamillo predicted election results would not mirror those of Proposition 22.

"There has been a long-term [shift] in voter attitudes toward greater acceptance of same-sex marriage," he said.

Proponents of Proposition 8 view the poll results differently.

"We think this bodes quite well for us," said Jennifer Kerns, spokeswoman for the Protect Marriage campaign. She noted that a Field Poll released in May showed that 54% of Californians opposed Proposition 8, and said the new results "show the opposition has lost a few percentage points and indicates they are losing momentum."

DiCamillo cautioned against comparing the results, noting that the more recent poll is of likely voters and is based on the actual ballot question, whereas the one in May was not as specifically targeted.

The campaigns have not yet begun to flood the airwaves in what is expected to be an expensive advertising effort. But both sides are diligently raising money.

Proposition 8 foes have raised at least $2.3 million, $900,000 of which has been donated in the last month.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: ca2008; california; gays; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; marriage
Romans 1:24
1 posted on 07/19/2008 7:05:48 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: calcowgirl; Ernest_at_the_Beach; NormsRevenge; Salvation; narses; NYer

ping


2 posted on 07/19/2008 7:06:54 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Peoples Republic of California. A disgrace.


3 posted on 07/19/2008 7:07:57 AM PDT by Rosemont ($4+ for gas. Can we drill now?)
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To: kellynla
I guess they polled 672 people in San Francisco.
4 posted on 07/19/2008 7:10:44 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running. FREE LAZAMATAZ)
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To: Rosemont
The majority of those polled believe in gangs, graffiti, pot, low education levels and government handouts.

What's the point?

5 posted on 07/19/2008 7:11:54 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Tony's work will live on = it's up to us to see it through)
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To: Rosemont

“Peoples Republic of California. A disgrace.”

Lets not get carried away... a slim majority of 672 hardly represents the tens of millions of Christians & Jews who abide by the Bible & the 7th Commandment.


6 posted on 07/19/2008 7:13:18 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Why am I not surprised. I would like to think that there are some in California that would not like their state to be known as the “queer state”, not that it already is.


7 posted on 07/19/2008 7:13:28 AM PDT by Morgana (Muslims...............I can't believe these people are that crazy without alcohol!)
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To: kellynla

They CERTAINLY didn’t ask San Diego County. There’s only one area where it would have passed here...Hillcrest, and THAT’S IT.


8 posted on 07/19/2008 7:14:14 AM PDT by NordP (PROUD AMERICAN and DOG-LOVING, INFIDEL)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Well we all know that you can get a poll to say anything you want just by how you present the questions...but I thought I would post this article just so folks are aware.

I don't think any of us are gonna go to hell for anyone!
No matter what the Left Angeles Times says...

9 posted on 07/19/2008 7:16:06 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Where’d they poll...San Francisco?


10 posted on 07/19/2008 7:18:58 AM PDT by madison10
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To: kellynla

Yes. Polls can only be trusted if you know the wording of the questions and the demographics of those polled. Until I saw your post all the polls I had heard about indicated that the Majority wanted to stop Gay Marriage.

Time will tell, November?


11 posted on 07/19/2008 7:19:28 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running. FREE LAZAMATAZ)
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To: kellynla

I call BS on this poll.

When the actual vote is taken, gay marriage is going to lose out there just like it has everywhere else.

Saying something to a pollster who may have an agenda you don’t know about is one thing. What a person does in a voting booth is another.


12 posted on 07/19/2008 7:19:30 AM PDT by Ronin (Is there some rule that says that when an evil man gets sick, we must pretend he was saint?)
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To: NordP

“CERTAINLY didn’t ask San Diego County.”

Nor Orange County...
unless they polled exclusively in Laguna Beach(where we keep the freaks LOL)


13 posted on 07/19/2008 7:20:19 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Rosemont
Field Poll of 672 likely voters

Notice that the margin of error or confidence interval was not mentioned. For a sample size this small, it would be quite large. Therefore, any conclusions are highly suspect. This aspect is not even addressed.
14 posted on 07/19/2008 7:22:47 AM PDT by Lucky Dog
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To: kellynla

I wonder if the pollsters got out to the far reaches of Eastern conservative country. I wonder.


15 posted on 07/19/2008 7:34:07 AM PDT by fwdude (If marriage can mean anything, then marriage means nothing.)
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To: kellynla

Bullshit!


16 posted on 07/19/2008 7:37:30 AM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: kellynla
Well we all know that you can get a poll to say anything you want just by how you present the questions.

Yep.

I think its still early yet. I would guess that 75%+ of voters have no clue what is going to be on the ballot and things will change by the time the election comes around. Of course, they'll have to sift through so many propositions, they may just not vote on any of them.

17 posted on 07/19/2008 7:51:31 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Ronin

I noticed there were no details about who asked what questions of what people. Lacking such basic information means it is not an objective poll. Querying fellow queers is certainly not scientific.


18 posted on 07/19/2008 7:59:12 AM PDT by hdstmf
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To: Ronin

Nope, gay marriage is going to win. That’s just the way it is. Too many people have gay friends, even conservative people. Too many people watch Will and Grace and Ugly Betty and have a good time watching them. It’s a different world now.


19 posted on 07/19/2008 8:32:42 AM PDT by Nick5
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To: Rosemont
Peoples Republic of California. A disgrace.

You believe this crap? Our last initiative, the one the State Supremes threw out won by a huge majority. There is no way a majority, slim or otherwise, will uphold gay marriage. We will pass the constitutional amendment this fall and then idiots like you will have to eat your words. It is amazing how many people think that SF is all of CA.

20 posted on 07/19/2008 8:44:54 AM PDT by calex59
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To: kellynla

With the homosexual thought police ownership of the LA Times, it’s hardly surprising that the pro homosexual marriage folks are purportedly going to take the day. Yet isn’t it interesting that the homosexual lawyer group has still been working to remove the initiative from the ballot?? Given their lock on election day, why bother? The media has become more than a disgrace in this country.


21 posted on 07/19/2008 8:55:11 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: kellynla
51% to 42% is hardly a slim majority.
22 posted on 07/19/2008 9:42:03 AM PDT by curmudgeonII
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To: kellynla

Right now, pastors and pro-family citizens are organizing around the state to back Proposition 8, sponsored by the ProtectMarriage.com coalition. The most reliable polls (which, unlike the California Field Poll, independently confirm individual voter registration and voting habits) show Prop. 8 in the clear majority. The May 21 Los Angeles Times Poll found that 54 percent of voters support Proposition 8, the California Marriage Amendment, and only 35 percent oppose it.

“The last time marriage was on the ballot in 2000, it polled in the low-to-mid 50’s going into Election Day,” said Thomasson. “But people who care deeply about marriage and family came out strongly, and pushed Proposition 22 to 61.4 percent, an overwhelming victory. If everyone does their part this summer to support Proposition 8, come November 5, marriage licenses will only be for a man and a woman in the California State Constitution.”

source: Campaign for California


23 posted on 07/19/2008 10:22:16 AM PDT by Marie2 (It's time for a ban on handgun bans)
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To: kellynla

We put away rapists, pederasts, voyeurs, exhibitionists, and other deviants. Why do we no longer imprison homosexuals? Have we completely forgotten how the threat of criminal sanction deters people from chosing to behave immorally and criminally?


24 posted on 07/19/2008 1:20:11 PM PDT by libsmacker75
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To: calex59

I appreciate the ad hominem attack. I hope you pass the constitutional amendment. Have a nice life.


25 posted on 07/19/2008 2:43:39 PM PDT by Rosemont ($4+ for gas. Can we drill now?)
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To: Rosemont

What attack. I merely told you what I thought if that is an attack then so be it. We will pass the amendment, regardless of what all the a**hats that think all of CA are queers. Don’t want to have people argue against you about CA? Stop making unfounded allegations about the majority of CA voters without personal experience of them.


26 posted on 07/19/2008 2:50:40 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

Actually, I am happy to “have people argue against me about CA”. Can you not handle the truth tough guy? Face it, California has been going downhill for a long time. B Boxer, D Fenistein, illegal aliens, judges making gay marriage legal...If that is ok with you fine. Maybe that is why you called me an idiot in the previous post. Just don’t throw a hissy fit when someone disagrees with the way your state is being run.


27 posted on 07/19/2008 3:37:59 PM PDT by Rosemont ($4+ for gas. Can we drill now?)
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To: Rosemont
The fact of the matter is, soft guy, that a whole bunch of CA voters do not agree with Pelosi, Difi or Boxer. If it wasn't for voter fraud, carried out in the southern counties, this state would be extremely conservative. Dead people and illegals vote regularly plus vote counts get skewed. Yes, we should probably take up the pitch forks and torches(and probably the firearms) but we will keep trying to do it the legal way. What you don't know about CA would fit in an dictionary.

Tough guy? Thanks, I am a tough guy having been raised in the 1950s, graduated high school in 1959, I know what real freedom is, which I doubt you do.

28 posted on 07/19/2008 3:49:35 PM PDT by calex59
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To: kellynla
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Benjamin Disraeli

29 posted on 07/19/2008 3:50:57 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: calex59
“...Tough guy? Thanks, I am a tough guy having been raised in the 1950s, graduated high school in 1959, I know what real freedom is, which I doubt you do.”

Why the condescension? Congrats for growing up in the 50’s. Believe it or not, those of us who didn't grow up then can also appreciate freedom.

30 posted on 07/19/2008 3:56:21 PM PDT by Rosemont ($4+ for gas. Can we drill now?)
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To: lewislynn

31 posted on 07/19/2008 4:23:47 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: kellynla
The Dog Trainer wouldn't give this a front page lead if the poll showed the opposite result! These people are entirely predictable.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

32 posted on 07/19/2008 11:52:59 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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