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Iraqi PM backs Obama troop exit plan: report
Reuters ^ | July 19, 2008

Posted on 07/19/2008 7:08:00 AM PDT by Fox_Mulder77

BERLIN (Reuters) - Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki told a German magazine he supported prospective U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's proposal that U.S. troops should leave Iraq within 16 months.

In an interview with Der Spiegel released on Saturday, Maliki said he wanted U.S. troops to withdraw from Iraq as soon as possible.

"U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes."

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: almaliki; backstab; ingrate; iraq; muslims; obama; propagandawingofdnc; sick; timetable; troopwithdrawal; ungrateful
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1 posted on 07/19/2008 7:08:01 AM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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Wait and see: Obama is going to declare victory in Iraq, and say we need to withdraw now.
The media will give him credit for winning the war, and the far left will give him a hero’s welcome when he gets back from the region.
Surreal? Yeah. But we’re talking about the loony left and their desire to get power.


2 posted on 07/19/2008 7:10:49 AM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: Fox_Mulder77

This is Maliki taking foolish advantage of a political situation, ingrateful idiot.


3 posted on 07/19/2008 7:11:29 AM PDT by moose2004 (Go Ahead, Make My Day)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

I wonder who is pulling Maliki’s strings now? Can you say “IMANUTJOB”??


4 posted on 07/19/2008 7:12:22 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Ahhhhh, so Obama has agreed to the same “time horizon” as President Bush (of COURSE with the possibility of *slight* changes)?


5 posted on 07/19/2008 7:13:19 AM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: Fox_Mulder77
That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes.

Typical political rhetoric. It all depends on what the meaning of the word "slight" is. I suspect what he's really saying is the probability of major changes.

6 posted on 07/19/2008 7:17:42 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: moose2004

How about ungrateful ingrate?

Its no joke though if he’s really prepared to undercut Bush to such an extent. If anything, it rinforces the suspicion that Obama really is Muslim and Maliki is doing his bit to get him elected.


7 posted on 07/19/2008 7:18:48 AM PDT by Nipfan
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To: Fox_Mulder77

8 posted on 07/19/2008 7:19:52 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Given the fact that the AP misrepresented Maliki’s prior remarks on this issue and never actually corrected it (the BBC did), I will wait until I have a source that is more credible.


9 posted on 07/19/2008 7:23:53 AM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: Nipfan
Well said. I'm sure when cornered Maliki will claim that he was misquoted and that he is not endorsing anyone for president.
10 posted on 07/19/2008 7:24:26 AM PDT by moose2004 (Go Ahead, Make My Day)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

This Iraq venture can all fall apart within a short time, simply because of the nature of the Iraqis and their monumental honor and face saving culture. I always think back to opinions illustrated is polls of the Iraqi people and interviews of individuals soon after Baghdad fell in 2003. They showed, over and over:

1. Iraqis were glad Sadddam was gone.

2. It was humiliating that Americans had to do it.

3. They thought American troops should leave ASAP.

Within that sort of thinking is room for the Iraqis to create, themselves, all sorts of disastrous outcomes for their country once American influence and control is removed.

If preserving some of their honor is more important than working with the Americans until they have firm control of their own security, then anything can happen after we leave and the US sacrifice will have been wasted.

And Obama is the perfect stooge to facilitate a disastrous outcome. It’s a perfect set-up for Al Qaeda and other terrorists to pull back some and regroup until the Americans depart.


11 posted on 07/19/2008 7:33:17 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Fox_Mulder77

The Iraqi nation is an ungrateful pile of dog sh!t. Foreign contracts, zero help at the pump, and now this. We should have flattened the whole damned place.


12 posted on 07/19/2008 7:37:45 AM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: Will88
Gee...The media is all ready talking about a visit that hasn't occured...conversations with OUR military which hasn't occurred...and some kind of victory which Obama CAN NEVER BE GIVEN CREDIT FOR...because he was against the war to start with.

Obama wants the money for "Communism" aka reparations. WE MUST ALL BE EQUAL.....WITHOUT DOING EQUAL WORK.

13 posted on 07/19/2008 7:38:47 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Obama was against helping Iraq from the beginning! How soon everyone forgets, now that we have almost completed the job.


14 posted on 07/19/2008 7:38:53 AM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Most of us only needed one 9/11 to understand the situation.


15 posted on 07/19/2008 7:39:04 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Only a Kennedy between us and tyranny.)
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To: Allegra

Can you give us some light on this?


16 posted on 07/19/2008 7:40:22 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Fox_Mulder77
Reuters.

You just know Maliki was asked leading questions and that those remarks were taken out of context.

I'm not defending Maliki; I just know how the scumbag media works.

17 posted on 07/19/2008 7:41:46 AM PDT by Allegra (Ain't it grand? I'm back in the sand...)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Don’t forget Obama getting the Nobel Peace Prize..


18 posted on 07/19/2008 7:41:48 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: moose2004

He must be feeling pretty good to be handing out money in the streets and making these statements. Actually as long as he’s a faithful ally in the WOT and allows our forward deployment to be housed in his country, it’s all good. Iraq needs a cocky leader. In the end, this is about our security, nothing more, nothing less. Bush had a great 7 year run to get it turned in the right direction. Inertia is starting to take over.


19 posted on 07/19/2008 7:42:09 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: SE Mom
Just saw your question...posted my comment at #17.

Der Spiegel is pretty liberal and Reuters probably twisted the entire context.

20 posted on 07/19/2008 7:43:06 AM PDT by Allegra (Ain't it grand? I'm back in the sand...)
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To: TommyDale

And countless scoffers here who predict a McCain landslide, still refuse to believe that the Press still has the power to manipulate the outcome of Public opinion.

Mark my words, they will spin this around to their advantage and Obama will get the credit. This is also why he is on World tour, to give the impression how well the entire World will love us again with him in office.

We ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.


21 posted on 07/19/2008 7:44:58 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: Bahbah
Given the fact that the AP misrepresented Maliki’s prior remarks on this issue and never actually corrected it (the BBC did), I will wait until I have a source that is more credible.

You may be right to do that. But I think this is the real deal. And it's the beginning of the Obama love-fest in the Middle East.

22 posted on 07/19/2008 7:45:10 AM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: TommyDale
>i> Obama was against helping Iraq from the beginning! How soon everyone forgets, now that we have almost completed the job.

Typical dhim move, try and take credit for anything good despite the fact what ever they try never works, yet the sheeple will follow them over the cliff.

23 posted on 07/19/2008 7:48:47 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: TribalPrincess2U
Obama was against helping Iraq from the beginning! How soon everyone forgets, now that we have almost completed the job.

Typical dhim move, try and take credit for anything good despite the fact what ever they try never works, yet the sheeple will follow them over the cliff.

24 posted on 07/19/2008 7:49:57 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Let’s just go ahead and pull out now. The first ones to likely die will be the leaders like this idiot. Let them have a civil war. Let them die. Screw them.


25 posted on 07/19/2008 7:51:37 AM PDT by boycott
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Maliki did not say this. It was a mistranslation and the filthy commies have continued to lie about it.

Believe it or not you can find it on the BBC.


26 posted on 07/19/2008 7:54:55 AM PDT by CyberSpartacus
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Maybe Israel will call out what Obama is really all about.


27 posted on 07/19/2008 7:54:57 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: CyberSpartacus
Maliki did not say this. It was a mistranslation and the filthy commies have continued to lie about it.

But all of those people who live and die by who does well on American Idol or Survivor will eat it right up without questioning it.

If the media says it, it has to be true, right?

28 posted on 07/19/2008 7:59:35 AM PDT by Allegra (Ain't it grand? I'm back in the sand...)
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To: Fox_Mulder77
" Wait and see: Obama is going to declare victory in Iraq, and say we need to withdraw now."

Nah. Bush beat him to that. Obama will declare that nation building is complete and go on to get AQ and Bin Laden dead or alive. But if McCain is elected, he will say the same thing. No matter who is elected, it is 'out of there' by the midterm election of 2010 when the motto will be 'it's the economy stupid'.

29 posted on 07/19/2008 7:59:52 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Allegra

LOL- what timing:) Thanks Allegra...


30 posted on 07/19/2008 8:00:12 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Frankly, I hope we can pull our troops within 16 months, at least out of the actual operations.

Obama wanted to pull troops 16 months from two YEARS ago, meaning he wanted them all out by March of 2008.

Now he’s only saying 16 months because he thinks that shows a measured pace of withdrawal (and it’s probably about as fast as we could reasonably pull the troops out and still keep the remaining ones safe).

At SOME point, Obama will be “right” about 16 months. It’s like waking up every morning and saying someone is going to die today. Eventually you will be right, but it doesn’t mean you have a clue.


31 posted on 07/19/2008 8:00:36 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Fox_Mulder77
But I think this is the real deal

I'm not so sure, Fox. But I value your opinion. So let's keep our eye on this and see which way it goes. If I were the PM of Iraq, I'd be hedging my bets given the fickleness of the American voter. When it came right down to it, what percentage of us believed that we had to see this through to success and that we could do that if the President didn't turn tail. Thank God he did not.

32 posted on 07/19/2008 8:01:47 AM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
I'm going back to an interview with Russert and Hillary. I believe we had just rolled into Iraq.

Hillary stated: It has been the policy of the Dem Party to take out Saddam. They wanted to claim this was their war from the beginning and the victory would be theirs.

AND THEY ALL VOTED FOR THE WAR.

33 posted on 07/19/2008 8:02:13 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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In 1949 our troops pulled out of S. Korea, 4 years after freeing it.

In 1950, when the unstable and militarily weak S. Korea was invaded and occupied by Communist N. Korea, Truman sent our military back to S. Korea to free it.

Truman said he was merely sending our men to fight a "police action" against "bandits," but, in reality, 30,000 Americans died in Korea in the remaining 30 months of Truman's presidency.

34 posted on 07/19/2008 8:07:08 AM PDT by syriacus (Democrats got THEIR "change" in Election 2006. Are WE better off now?)
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To: Fox_Mulder77
Hint to American Businesses:

Don't invest in Iraq

35 posted on 07/19/2008 8:08:08 AM PDT by JimSEA (Kaffur and proud of it.)
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To: Nipfan
How about ungrateful ingrate?

We should call Maliki's bluff, and order a strick 16-month withdraw timeline. (not really, but...).

Then, as the 16 month drop dead date gets closer, Maliki will start peeing his pants at the thought of the Iraqi's having to protect HIM without American help.

Perhaps it would teach him to never trust the likes of Obama and the Democratic fantasy machine.... ever again.

36 posted on 07/19/2008 8:11:06 AM PDT by Edit35 (.)
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To: Fox_Mulder77
"U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes."

If this is a true quote, then I suspect most highly that Marxist Obama's operatives got to him.

The timing is especially "convenient", what with Marxist Obama's visit.

Could there be a few million $s and a villa in the south of France (the land of ingrates) for Mister Maliki?

This is a question for Marxsist Obama.

37 posted on 07/19/2008 8:14:35 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Fox_Mulder77; jveritas; Allegra

Here’s the Der Spiegel article/interview with Maliki. Sure enough on the second page Maliki throws Bush under the bus. SOB!

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,566852,00.html


38 posted on 07/19/2008 8:16:32 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Bahbah
AP misrepresented

That is a redundant phrase.

39 posted on 07/19/2008 8:18:18 AM PDT by Edit35 (.)
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To: Bahbah

I guess I see it like this: whether Maliki said this or not, it’s what he believes. I think he believes this thing is over, and that Iraq is now in position to fully take care of themselves. Of coarse he wants enough of our troops around just in case he’s wrong, but each day that goes by gives him confidence in the idea that Iraq is self sufficient.


40 posted on 07/19/2008 8:18:33 AM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: Seaplaner
"If this is a true quote, then I suspect most highly that Marxist Obama's operatives got to him."

I get the feeling that Maliki and George Soros are soon to be golfing buddies.

Here's the full interview and on the second page Maliki does throw Bush under the bus.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,566852,00.html

41 posted on 07/19/2008 8:19:27 AM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado

Thanx so much for the link.


42 posted on 07/19/2008 8:24:56 AM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
"We ain’t seen nuthin’ yet. "

The Great Three-ring Travelling Medicine Show and All-faith Revival is about to start! Get in free with a Hadacol Boxtop!

43 posted on 07/19/2008 8:25:29 AM PDT by matthew fuller (I'm John McCain, and I hereby repudiate and disavow all Republican and Conservative values.)
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To: Fox_Mulder77
These are the Obama Socialists at REUTERS Lying and twisting the comments made by Maliki . They have done it many times and think the Iraqi PM is too stupid to Correct them . Its a scam.
44 posted on 07/19/2008 8:25:32 AM PDT by ncalburt
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To: Fox_Mulder77
"Thanx so much for the link."

You're welcome. I had to go find it, to see it, to believe it with my own eyes. I am speechless that Maliki would basically endorse Obama after all of the hard work of the Bush Administration. Just speechless...

45 posted on 07/19/2008 8:31:15 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Fox_Mulder77

No matter who says what at this point in time, there will still be at least 60,000 troops for at least the next 10 years.


46 posted on 07/19/2008 8:36:20 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Fox_Mulder77
but each day that goes by gives him confidence in the idea that Iraq is self sufficient.

Well, it's his neck hanging out there and not mine, so if that's what he sees, I hope he's right.

However, my point is thatthose who relied on the AP spent at least 2 days discussing and worrying over something he never said. For some time, the media dismissed Maliki as a non-entity. Now they hang on his ever "translated" word when they can spin it as supporting the position of the Obamasiah. I'm going to hold fire for now.

47 posted on 07/19/2008 8:36:26 AM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: avacado

SPIEGEL: In your opinion, which factor has contributed most to bringing calm to the situation in the country?

Maliki: There are many factors, but I see them in the following order. First, there is the political rapprochement we have managed to achieve in central Iraq. This has enabled us, above all, to pull the plug on al-Qaida. Second, there is the progress being made by our security forces. Third, there is the deep sense of abhorrence with which the population has reacted to the atrocities of al-Qaida and the militias. Finally, of course, there is the economic recovery.

Hmmm . . haven’t you left something out, Mr. Maliki?

Like the U.S. Army?

Perhaps George Bush has indeed been played for a fool?


48 posted on 07/19/2008 8:36:40 AM PDT by WilliamReading
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"Hmmm . . haven’t you left something out, Mr. Maliki?

Like the U.S. Army?

No kidding!

"Perhaps George Bush has indeed been played for a fool?"

I hate for you to be right, but sheeze... it's hard to not have that thought right now.

49 posted on 07/19/2008 8:45:45 AM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado

With oil selling at $140 a barrel, perhaps President Bush could ask Iraq for some foreign aid?


50 posted on 07/19/2008 8:49:55 AM PDT by WilliamReading
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