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Activists Fear Opposite Party VP Picks [McCain/Lieberman '08?]
Politico via CBS News ^ | 2008-07-18 | David Paul Kuhn

Posted on 07/19/2008 10:08:29 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

That nervous laughter you hear is the sound of party activists responding to speculation that Barack Obama or John McCain might pick a vice presidential candidate from the opposing party.

More specifically, it is reaction to talk that Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel (Neb.) is being seriously considered as a running mate for Barack Obama or that Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (Conn.), an independent who caucuses with the Democrats, is a potential choice for John McCain.

Though it’s nothing more than unfounded conjecture at this point, top conservative and liberal activists nevertheless say that any cross-party selection of that kind would thrust the respective party conventions into turmoil.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; 2008veep; democrat; election; electionpresident; elections; hagel; lieberman; mccain; mccainlist; mccaintruthfile; obama; republicrat
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1 posted on 07/19/2008 10:08:30 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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2 posted on 07/19/2008 10:09:01 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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To: rabscuttle385

Maybe they could swap, and Lieberman could run with Obama while Hagel runs with McCain. Problem solved for activists; America screwed.


3 posted on 07/19/2008 10:12:39 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: rabscuttle385

Ain’t gonna happen.

Hagel is pro-life and Lieberman is pro-abortion.

End of story.


4 posted on 07/19/2008 10:14:45 AM PDT by Reagan Man ( McCain Wants My Conservative Vote in November --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: NittanyLion

I wonder which one wants to lose the most. Seems they are both vying to lose. Lieberman is about as old as MaCain.I suppose the left will like Chuckhead.


5 posted on 07/19/2008 10:18:15 AM PDT by jincarolina
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To: Reagan Man

McCain has already shown that he doesn’t care what Pro-Lifers think.


6 posted on 07/19/2008 10:29:07 AM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: rabscuttle385; All
As much as I don't want to vote for McCrazy I will but either way we're screwed. The North American Union will happen within the next 2-8 years (2010 was the original date but I've heard thats not the case anymore).

Unless we take this country back the United States of American and our Constitution is dead, dead, dead and I just don't see a revolution happening here.

7 posted on 07/19/2008 10:32:00 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Homosexuality IS a choice! There isn't any biological reason for it. They CHOOSE to be that way!)
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To: rabscuttle385
Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel

Does the RNC still support this guy? What a disgrace

8 posted on 07/19/2008 10:32:44 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: NittanyLion

Maybe McCain and Obama could be each other’s running mates! ;~)


9 posted on 07/19/2008 10:33:16 AM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: TommyDale

Obviously, McCain has completely written off Conservatives. He is going after Laraza, Moderates, Independents and Democrats. Which explains his continuous pandering and Leftist ideas for the economy and environmental over-kill. Not to mention SHAMnesty.


10 posted on 07/19/2008 10:33:46 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Yep, that’s why the McCain Campaigners here are going bonkers every time we say we aren’t going to vote for him. And I won’t.


11 posted on 07/19/2008 10:36:19 AM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Reagan Man

They don’t care how ridiculous the story is. The only thing that they care about is bashing McCain. We have people here on FR, who I have never seen say anything bad about Obama - makes me wonder about that, who have abandoned all logic in their attempt to take personal shots at McCain.

They are going to claim next that McCain was brainwashed by the KGB while in captivity or by the Bavarian Illuminati to bring about a New World Order, or that McCain was kidnapped by the Mexican Centro de Información de Seguridad Nacional (CISN) and brainwashed.

The truth of the matter is that McCain VP selection will probably be Mitt Romney or Sarah Palin. They are hoping that it will be some one they can complain about, because they have done nothing but complain for the last 6 months.

They will probably say that Mitt belongs to a doomsday cult, so we cannot support him, or that Sarah should be at home baking cookies and taking care of her family.


12 posted on 07/19/2008 10:36:56 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: rabscuttle385

Is this another McCain-bashing thread?

How many is this now?

Whaah.


13 posted on 07/19/2008 10:39:24 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (CHEVY VOLT COUNTDOWN: V minus 103 Weeks. Waiting...)
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To: Perdogg

Sombody needs to get you a bib, quick, you’re spilling all over yourself!


14 posted on 07/19/2008 10:41:00 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: TommyDale
"Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007"

Here's you buddy Bob Barr taking about Amnesty with neil Boortz.

Barr and Boortz on illegal immigration, and what to do with those already here

Tuesday, April 8, 2008, 04:42 PM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Former Georgia congressman Bob Barr, now exploring a Libertarian bid for president, had an interesting exchange with Neal Boortz on WSB (750AM) this morning.

Listen to the sound clip here.

Apparently, among some conservatives, there’s been some dispute over where Libertarians stand on the issue of illegal immigration.

“The Libertarian Party has not exactly been strong on the issue of controlling the Mexican invasion into this country,” Boortz began.

“Actually, they have been,” Barr replied.

The two gentlemen moved to the matter of what to do with the paperless people who are already here.

Said Barr:

“You set a mechanism internally to determine who is here. And if you catch folks that are here unlawfully, and do not submit themselves to a background check that those coming into this country are going to be required to do, then you send them back to their country.”

Said Boortz:

“It sounds to me that you’re saying, if you find an illegal immigrant in this country, and they’re willing to submit to a background check, that that could open the door to them staying here.”

Said Barr:

“I think as a practical matter, that makes a lot of sense. I’m not sure how you would go about rounding up millions of people and trying to deport them. The key here is security….”


15 posted on 07/19/2008 10:41:19 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: rabscuttle385

Obama / Mugabe ‘08


16 posted on 07/19/2008 10:44:08 AM PDT by xDGx
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Don’t fret, there is another “Gushing for Hero McCain” thread going on at the moment for you to pander to.

I’m afraid that if you stick around here very long, you’ll wind up with your ears trimmed.


17 posted on 07/19/2008 10:44:11 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Game on.

Bring it, whiner.


18 posted on 07/19/2008 10:45:11 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (CHEVY VOLT COUNTDOWN: V minus 103 Weeks. Waiting...)
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To: rabscuttle385

Rubbish. Lieberman is going to be Sec State or Sec Defense. At least Ambassador to the UN. The Veep will be a Governor.


19 posted on 07/19/2008 10:45:12 AM PDT by SolidWood (Stop the Muslimarxist Obama.)
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To: Perdogg

[The only thing that they care about is bashing McCain. We have people here on FR, who I have never seen say anything bad about Obama - makes me wonder about that,..]

As a veteran I consider their work on behalf of nObama a big FU, and frankly they disgust me.

Their efforts to silence anyone who would vote for McCain to prevent a much more leftward leaning candidate from being elected by “labeling” is right out of the leftist playbook.


20 posted on 07/19/2008 10:49:35 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Here's a helicopter waambulance for you:



21 posted on 07/19/2008 10:52:34 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (CHEVY VOLT COUNTDOWN: V minus 103 Weeks. Waiting...)
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To: rabscuttle385

The transformation to a de facto single party country is nigh. The partisan bickering is a mere bilking mechanism and distraction.


22 posted on 07/19/2008 10:56:16 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom and individual liberty is for everyone, including the odd and weird people like you.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

OH, so the name calling starts. Illustrate your intelligence, not your level of maturity. If you can’t debate them, insult them.

No contest. Any other response from you that fails to present a respectful tone or logical discussion to the respondent will not be acknowledged.


23 posted on 07/19/2008 10:56:39 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: Reagan Man

One would think, but even the MSM was reporting that Hagel is at the top of the list this morning as he travels with Obama.


24 posted on 07/19/2008 10:57:06 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom and individual liberty is for everyone, including the odd and weird people like you.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

OK bub.

You’re the one who said I was going to get my ears trimmed. That’s pretty much a challenge.

Now, you ... “change”.

How very, Obama of you.

Whaah.


25 posted on 07/19/2008 10:59:01 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (CHEVY VOLT COUNTDOWN: V minus 103 Weeks. Waiting...)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I rest my case.......


26 posted on 07/19/2008 11:01:23 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP; Cringing Negativism Network
"Sombody needs to get you a bib, quick, you’re spilling all over yourself!"

Does this reflect the level of your maturity and intelligence?

Pot.. kettle..black
27 posted on 07/19/2008 11:01:59 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Reagan Man

“Hagel is pro-life and Lieberman is pro-abortion.”

Lieberman is a liberal on EVERYTHING but foreign policy.


28 posted on 07/19/2008 11:03:05 AM PDT by cw35
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; indylindy; Grunthor; AuntB; JoJo Gunn
Is this another McCain-bashing thread?

Since when is pointing out McCain's flaws "bashing"?

I have written off McCain and the Republican Party because the former is not conservative, and the conservative wing of the latter appears to be on life support. It's only a matter of time before the former pulls the plug on the latter.

29 posted on 07/19/2008 11:10:10 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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To: rabscuttle385

“Since when is pointing out McCain’s flaws “bashing”? “

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To what end?


30 posted on 07/19/2008 11:11:49 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (CHEVY VOLT COUNTDOWN: V minus 103 Weeks. Waiting...)
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To: Perdogg

Nice George Carlin skit.

Truth is, after all of Mitt Romney’s so-called “conservative” rhetoric during the GOP primary season, his life long support of liberal issues and liberal causes is what people remember most about his public record. These shifts in policy maybe fine for liberals like Obama, who have the MSM watching their backs and protecting them. Frankly, Romney is too big a liability for McCain to take a chance on.

Depending on who Obama picks, this Sarah Palin could be an intriguing choice. Especially with the oil-gas issue front and center, along with ANWR.

I’d rather see someone with solid conservative credentials like Gov Mark Sanford, or even Sen Tom Coburn running with McCain. Haley Barbour would be another good choice.


31 posted on 07/19/2008 11:15:06 AM PDT by Reagan Man ( McCain Wants My Conservative Vote in November --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Would the Governor of Connecticut, RINO Jodi Rell, be allowed to appoint a Republican to Joe’s U.S. Senate seat, if a McCain/Lieberman Presidential ticket did win? If only Rell was a conservative instead of presently being another northeastern state RINO!


32 posted on 07/19/2008 11:15:36 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Vote for conservatives AT ALL POLITICAL LEVELS! Encourage all others to do the same on November 4!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
To what end?

What's your point?

33 posted on 07/19/2008 11:16:27 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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To: rabscuttle385

You didn’t answer the question.

To what end?

WHY ... are you complaining about McCain at this point?

What is it, you are trying to accomplish?

Do you want him to lose?


34 posted on 07/19/2008 11:18:32 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (CHEVY VOLT COUNTDOWN: V minus 103 Weeks. Waiting...)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; indylindy; Grunthor; JoJo Gunn
WHY ... are you complaining about McCain at this point?

Because folks in other states with earlier primaries decided on the nominee before my state's primary.

Because I refuse to get poked in the eye by a "maverick" Republican.

Because I refuse to support a left-wing Republican.

What is it, you are trying to accomplish?

There is no harm in pointing out the flaws of a left-wing Republican...unless you are the left-wing Republican or one of its supporters.

Do you want him to lose?

I want all leftists to lose. Infer from that what you will.

35 posted on 07/19/2008 11:23:44 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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To: rabscuttle385

The time for all this, was during the primaries!!!

Now, it’s time to get with the program, and start pulling.

Pick up the rope, and please stop complaining.

What is it with you people?

You won’t be happy until Dems hold the WH and both houses of congress, just so you can say “I told you so”.

Told us what??

All you’re doing it obstruction, and defeatism.


36 posted on 07/19/2008 11:27:42 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (CHEVY VOLT COUNTDOWN: V minus 103 Weeks. Waiting...)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
The time for all this, was during the primaries!!!

Practically every candidate on the ballot in my state had dropped out by the time our turn came.

You won’t be happy until Dems hold the WH and both houses of congress, just so you can say “I told you so”.

I will not be party to a left-wing takeover of the White House and Congress, regardless of which party is "taking over."

All you’re doing it obstruction, and defeatism.

Bending over for McCain and the RINOs and giving my stamp of approval (vote) to their neo-Socialist agenda of carbon taxes, amnesty for illegals, rampant interventionist wars against other countries, higher Social Security taxes, bailouts for everyone but the taxpayer, continued "comprehensive" "compromise" with Socialists and left-wing Democrats, and Bigger Government...is admitting defeat. And that, sir, is not conservative at all.

37 posted on 07/19/2008 11:37:40 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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To: rabscuttle385

You’re not the only one who was disappointed with the way things played out.

I wanted Duncan Hunter. He’d be an excellent VP.

If John McCain or anyone who works for him reads FR, and if standing up for him counts for anything ... HINT!! :)


38 posted on 07/19/2008 11:41:40 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (CHEVY VOLT COUNTDOWN: V minus 103 Weeks. Waiting...)
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To: rabscuttle385
NO difference between them. Now they are confident enough to brazenly shove it in your face.
39 posted on 07/19/2008 11:56:18 AM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: Reagan Man
Hagel is pro-life and Lieberman is pro-abortion.

Do you think that's one of the top 10 or even top 50 issues in a national race?

Maybe 25 years ago, but not these days. Especially for a vice-presidential choice.

40 posted on 07/19/2008 12:13:16 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: commonguymd

You’ve about nailed it.


41 posted on 07/19/2008 12:14:53 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: TommyDale
McCain has already shown that he doesn’t care what Pro-Lifers think.

He was makin' some pretty strong pro-life comments the other day in Michigan
[along with pledging to regulate the hell out of the auto industry with mileage and emission standards, subsidizing green car purchases, helping to make all autos flex-fuel, etc. :-( ]

McCain at GM Center
The abortion question starts at about 1:50 and his response starts at about 2:35
42 posted on 07/19/2008 12:46:47 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: logician2u

Abortion is still a major national issue for each parties base voter. I don’t expect Obama to buck his liberal pro-abortion base and choose Hagel as his running mate. He’d lose significant support among Democrats. And I seriously doubt McCain is foolish enough to buck the GOP`s conservative base on the abortion issue. Especially these days! Most conservatives will not accept anyone less than a pro-life running mate.


43 posted on 07/19/2008 12:48:54 PM PDT by Reagan Man ( McCain Wants My Conservative Vote in November --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: SolidWood
Lieberman is going to be Sec State or Sec Defense. At least Ambassador to the UN.

Oh, Joy! /s

44 posted on 07/19/2008 12:54:36 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Perdogg
They are going to claim next that McCain was brainwashed by the KGB while in captivity or by the Bavarian Illuminati to bring about a New World Order, or that McCain was kidnapped by the Mexican Centro de Información de Seguridad Nacional (CISN) and brainwashed.

Ping me to that when you see it. I won't hold my breath.

45 posted on 07/19/2008 12:57:34 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
WHY ... are you complaining about McCain at this point?

Because contrary to the view of campaign operatives on this website, the election is not the end-all. The election was already lost the day that McCain clinched the nomination. Whoever wins the presidency is going to be a liberal and, as conservatives, we should be opposing liberal policies no matter who is promoting them. Amnesty, global warming, excessive regulation, big-spending government programs--I don't care who is promoting these liberal policies, I will oppose them.

46 posted on 07/19/2008 1:05:40 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Oh, sorry. I didn’t meant to imply that McCain isn’t pro-life, just that he doesn’t give a rat’s ass about the Pro-Lifers and conservatives in general. Far too many slaps in the face for this conservative to ever vote for that maniac. I have come to the point that I don’t even care. Cynical doesn’t begin to describe my attitude towards the GOP.


47 posted on 07/19/2008 1:32:32 PM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
WHY ... are you complaining about McCain at this point?

Perhaps because conservatives come to this site to comment on politics. And please don't make the mistake of confusing conservatives with Republicans.

48 posted on 07/19/2008 2:04:36 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: rabscuttle385; Cringing Negativism Network

“Since when is pointing out McCain’s flaws “bashing”?”

Since he became the Repube nominee. He now has NO flaws, he is as close to a perfect human being as you will ever find, anywhere. If you don’t want to vote for McCain then YOU are the problem in the party, NOT him.

(mega-barf alert-sarcasm)


49 posted on 07/19/2008 2:53:10 PM PDT by Grunthor (I see you are playing stupid again. Looks like you're winning too.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Every ounce of bile and vitriol that bastard has received and will receive, he has CULTIVATED for 10 years. Heck, I might vote for him, but I WILL BE giving him s**t the WHOLE WAY!


50 posted on 07/19/2008 2:54:59 PM PDT by Grunthor (I see you are playing stupid again. Looks like you're winning too.)
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