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Ford to retool U.S. plants for European cars: report
Reuters ^ | Jul 19, 2008 | Reporting by Nick Carey, editing by Eric Beech

Posted on 07/19/2008 11:21:56 AM PDT by decimon

CHICAGO (Reuters) - Car maker Ford Motor Co (F.N) is drawing up plans to retool American plants to make small, fuel-efficient passenger cars that it mainly makes and sells in Europe, the Wall Street Journal reported on Saturday.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automakers; energy; ford; fordmotor; gasprices; transportation

1 posted on 07/19/2008 11:21:56 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon
This would be a long overdue move. Ford has some very nice, stylish vehicles in Europe that people have wondered why they never brought them to the US market. I've got my eye on the Ford Mondeo!


2 posted on 07/19/2008 11:36:47 AM PDT by Azzurri
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To: Azzurri

nice


3 posted on 07/19/2008 11:44:20 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Azzurri

Mondeo is good!

They had very high ratings from the British Top Gear automotive telemag, from Jeremy Clarkson, no less!

WATCH:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1OBqrfIQOM


4 posted on 07/19/2008 11:46:37 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: decimon

I hope Ford keeps a small 4x4 pickup like the Ranger in their line — but could it be available in Flex fuel please?


5 posted on 07/19/2008 11:48:25 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (CHEVY VOLT COUNTDOWN: V minus 103 Weeks. Waiting...)
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To: decimon

This seems to make sense. However, there is a reason american car manufacturers haven’t been very enthusiastic about building little cars here in the US. It’s because there is less profit margin in small cars and american labor prices are high. So amercian car companies tend to import small cars from asia and rebadge them.

I would like to see a ford ka built and sold in north america. But not unless they sell it at a very competitive price. If they can’t come in at or lower than the asking price of ten grand for a hyundai accent, then forget it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ford_Ka.JPG


6 posted on 07/19/2008 11:50:57 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Azzurri
Yeah, the Mondeo used to be the same size as the Ford Contour / Mercury Mystique. Those Mondeo variants weren't succesful because they were too small. The new Mondeo is larger, about the size of the current Fusion / Milan.

Ford has invested in a hybrid version of the Fusion, so that model may not be replaced by another Mondeo. We'll see. Either way, this is the only path to continued survival. I'll bet more of GM's eurocars are offered here in coming years, too.

7 posted on 07/19/2008 11:55:58 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Azzurri
This would be a long overdue move. Ford has some very nice, stylish vehicles in Europe that people have wondered why they never brought them to the US market.

Yes, I've seen that questioned many times.

8 posted on 07/19/2008 12:01:08 PM PDT by decimon
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To: mamelukesabre

A car like the Ka would be fine for most of what I do.


9 posted on 07/19/2008 12:02:06 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Azzurri

That has Aston Martin lines.


10 posted on 07/19/2008 12:05:16 PM PDT by xmission (Democrats have killed our Soldiers by rewarding the enemy for brutality)
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To: xmission
That has Aston Martin lines.

That's probably right...Ford owned Aston Martin from 1994-2007.

11 posted on 07/19/2008 12:10:11 PM PDT by Azzurri
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To: Azzurri

Wow, they sold Aston Martin? Would you happen to know who it went to?


12 posted on 07/19/2008 12:58:18 PM PDT by xmission (Democrats have killed our Soldiers by rewarding the enemy for brutality)
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To: xmission
Wow, they sold Aston Martin? Would you happen to know who it went to?

To a man named Bond. James Bond.

13 posted on 07/19/2008 1:00:55 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Azzurri

It’s [body style] better than anything they offer in the States.


14 posted on 07/19/2008 1:02:14 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: mamelukesabre
And the Ka has the 'evil' reputation to make it cool:

Evil Ka

15 posted on 07/19/2008 1:52:10 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: decimon

What Ford needs to build is a 300hp turbo 2.4L that can compete with the Subaru WRX STI and Mitsubishi EVO X.


16 posted on 07/19/2008 2:34:58 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: SVTCobra03
What Ford needs to build is a 300hp turbo 2.4L that can compete with the Subaru WRX STI and Mitsubishi EVO X.

The hot cars are always a small part of the market. A 220hp 2.0 liter turbo would give the usual economy and occasional acceleration most people need.

17 posted on 07/19/2008 2:39:25 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Azzurri

Does GM still have the OPEL brand in Germany? When I was stationed there back in 88-90 there was some really nice Opel sedans and econoboxes. Way better than the garbage GM sold in the states at the same time.


18 posted on 07/19/2008 4:09:11 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: Tailback
Does GM still have the OPEL brand in Germany?

GM's smaller but not smallest cars are on modified Opel platforms.

19 posted on 07/19/2008 4:15:32 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Azzurri
Ford has some very nice, stylish vehicles in Europe that people have
wondered why they never brought them to the US market.


Because the guys at Ford (and GM) realized they could sell their
domestic junk in the USA...and Americans would still buy enough
of it to keep the stockholders happy.

It's been decades, but I remember being interested in one of
the Merkur models...and then being mightily ticked to find out
Europeans could buy a maxed-out Merkur for about $12,000...
but we Americans needed to put down about $22,000 for a neutered version.

And the Ford and GM whizkids are only now getting close to
listening to the advice they've been given for decades: build the
good stuff you make overseas...only start making them in the USA
as well.
20 posted on 07/19/2008 4:24:11 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Azzurri

“I’ve got my eye on the Ford Mondeo!”

Mon Dieu!


21 posted on 07/19/2008 4:26:47 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: mamelukesabre

That’s a neat looking small car.

If Ford could keep the “out the door” price below 10K I bet they’d sell a bunch.


22 posted on 07/19/2008 5:11:57 PM PDT by upchuck (As we doggedly march towards dystopia, my poor country is losing it's mind. God help us!)
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To: upchuck

Oh, well...if you like that one, you should check out the suzuki twin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Suzuki-twin_1st-front.jpg


23 posted on 07/19/2008 5:47:49 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: SVTCobra03
What Ford needs to build is a 300hp turbo 2.4L that can compete with the Subaru WRX STI and Mitsubishi EVO X.

Lotus's older (4cyl) 2.4 turbo was around 330-350hp in the Esprit before they went to a v8. It's a wicked nice little motor, and my Esprit will get 39mpg if I drive like an old lady...
24 posted on 07/19/2008 6:08:24 PM PDT by xmission (Democrats have killed our Soldiers by rewarding the enemy for brutality)
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To: decimon
My one hope is that, with the shifting emphasis to smaller, fuel-efficient cars, the Big Three will abandon their efforts to give "car-like ride" to their trucks. My suspicion is (I Am Not An Engineer) that modern trucks could be made even more durable if they didn't worry so much about NVH (noise, vibration, harshness), and about making trucks easy for soccer moms to drive. So: abandon IFS (and in some cases IRS) for all levels of pickups and SUVs, drop all the extra bumf that makes the transmission shift smoother (longer shift times), engine quieter etc. Make them back into the work vehicles they were meant to be, and maybe they'll last 15-20 years again. The epitomes of good light trucks:

and


25 posted on 07/22/2008 11:11:54 AM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: Little Pig
My one hope is that, with the shifting emphasis to smaller, fuel-efficient cars, the Big Three will abandon their efforts to give "car-like ride" to their trucks.

There have been recent reports about Ford and GM converting truck factories to small car factories. I guess that 'truck' would include SUV.

26 posted on 07/22/2008 11:52:51 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

My point exactly. Bring back live-axle trucks. The technology is far cheaper, more robust, and less complex to boot. The manufacturers could save significant amounts of money by abandoning their effort to make trucks acceptable to ordinary car-buyers. They’re retooling anyway, so retool the remaining truck lines to use the more proven technology. Dodge did it right.


27 posted on 07/22/2008 3:29:56 PM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: Little Pig

You make a good point. Real pickup buyers probably don’t want to spend 40K for the Hugh Hefner model anyway.


28 posted on 07/22/2008 3:45:49 PM PDT by decimon
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To: SVTCobra03

“What Ford needs to build is a 300hp turbo 2.4L that can compete with the Subaru WRX STI and Mitsubishi EVO X.”

That wouldn’t sell that many units. They gotta start doing better in the bread and butter car markets and something as nice as Mondeo would go along way. Small cars are all the rage right now and Ford has some really nice ones like the Ka in their stable. They have no excuse for taking so long to bring them over. Nissan, Toyota, and Honda were very quick in getting small cars of theirs from other markets over here as gas prices rose. Cars they already made like the Fit, Versa, and Yaris were quickly brought to market in the states. Despite having cars like the KA which are well regarded and in those classes Ford has failed to adapt quickly and get them into the American market.


29 posted on 07/24/2008 7:23:58 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: decimon

“You make a good point. Real pickup buyers probably don’t want to spend 40K for the Hugh Hefner model anyway.”

I like that my old Chevy doesn’t have power windows, or power seats, or leather, or any of that. One thing I like about it is its crudeness. Its meant to work not to squire visiting dignitaries around town. Of course if it was more only vehicle it might get old but I love that old 454 beast.


30 posted on 07/24/2008 7:26:21 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Confirmed yesterday is that the Minneapolis plant will not close as scheduled next year but will in fact remain open to produce the Ranger through 2011.

I hope they actually get around to modernizing the Ranger, but if people are conscious of mpg, a pickup whose owners (4 cyl 5 spd) report 5 mpg more than any other pickup on the market is not a bad thing to keep around.


31 posted on 07/25/2008 9:41:35 AM PDT by eraser2005
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To: xmission

Aston was sold to a consortium of investors - primarily the founder of Prodrive, an Aston collector, and a Kuwaiti investment firm.

Ford did retain a small portion of ownership (just under 10%, I believe) of the brand.

I haven’t heard how well the brand has been doing since the sale, but the new owners followed through with Ford plans and closed the Newport Pagnell plant.


32 posted on 07/25/2008 9:53:25 AM PDT by eraser2005
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To: eraser2005

Excellent move on Ford’s part.

Now, can I please get a flex-fuel version?

OPEN HINT TO FORD: I’ll buy one, if you make it flex fuel. Seriously. I’ve been looking at exactly this truck - but I won’t buy another gasoline-only vehicle, ever.

Ever.

Your move Ford.


33 posted on 07/26/2008 10:15:40 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (CHEVY VOLT COUNTDOWN: V minus 102 Weeks. Waiting...)
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