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Boston Globe ^ | 7/20/08 | Jeff Jacoby

Posted on 07/20/2008 3:21:37 AM PDT by MartinaMisc

"Friends, red-necks, suckers, and fellow hicks," he would say, . . . "That's what you are. And me - I'm one, too . . . Oh, I'm a sucker, for I fell for that sweet-talking fellow in the fine automobile . . . But I'm standing here on my own hind legs, for even a dog can learn to do that, give him time. I learned. It took me a time but I learned, and here I am on my own hind legs." And he would lean at them. And demand, "Are you, are you on your hind legs? Have you learned that much yet? You think you can learn that much?"

- From "All The King's Men" by Robert Penn Warren

JAWS CLENCHED, blood pressures spiked, and radio talk-show hosts spontaneously combusted when the Globe reported last week that the $15 billion Big Dig - formerly known as the $12.2 billion Big Dig, and more formerly as the $7.7 billion Big Dig, and even, once upon a time, as the $2.5 billion Big Dig - will in fact cost a staggering $22 billion and not be paid off until 2038.

The Page 1 story was filled with infuriating details, such as the revelation that 80 percent of Massachusetts Highway Department employees are being paid with borrowed money. Bay State politicians originally sold voters on the Big Dig in part by assuring them that Washington would pick up 90 percent of the cost.

In reality, nearly three-fourths of the tab is coming from the pockets of Massachusetts drivers and taxpayers. What we were told in the 1980s would set us back about $350 million will actually cost us more than 50 times as much.

Well, as Willie Stark would say, are you on your hind legs yet?

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: bigdig; corruption; hackerama; jacoby; massachusetts

1 posted on 07/20/2008 3:21:38 AM PDT by MartinaMisc
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To: MartinaMisc

Who could possibly be more deserving than those who would vote for Kennedy and the rest of the scoundrels that run MA politics?


2 posted on 07/20/2008 3:38:37 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: MartinaMisc

As a person who made the mistake of moving to MA (Cape Cod) and finally waking up 12 years later, I can say all the pain they get from this swindle is deserved and I am happy they are having it stuck to them.

Almost to a person I have found MA citizens to be arrogant and condescending toward those they consider not there kind, which is anyone not a New Englander.

There is a good reason the people of MA are referred to natiowide as “Massholes”, and I did not coin the phrase.


3 posted on 07/20/2008 3:46:23 AM PDT by lexusppd
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To: MartinaMisc
"Are you, are you on your hind legs? Have you learned that much yet? You think you can learn that much?"

I got this far in this post and just couldn't stand to read any more. If your intent was to provoke, then you have succeeded, at least with me. I've never been on my "hind legs". I don't believe any real American has ever been so. After finishing reading your comments, all I can say is that we will continue to be crammed up the old rear end by our "Government Servants" as long as we bend over for them. When we have finally had enough, there will be blood shed. Thus has it always been throughout human history.

4 posted on 07/20/2008 3:56:15 AM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: MartinaMisc

The liberal masses in Massachusetts LOVE taking it from their masters. Every time they bend over and get whacked like this they exclaim: ‘Very good sir! May I have another?’ And they always get what they request.


5 posted on 07/20/2008 4:07:50 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Obama "King of Kings and Lord of Lords")
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To: MartinaMisc

Yet, Massachusetts is a very pleasant place.

The people are nowhere nearly as liberal as the politicians they elect. Next to Rhode Island it is the most Catholic state and for historical reasons Catholics vote Democrat.

It’s also infested with institutions of “higher” “education”. (Day care for perpetual adolescents, if you ask me. And a jobs program for people who can’t make a living with their hands or their heads.)

It’s interesting that the local Fox affliate is kicking butt for local news coverage. They aren’t pronouncedly right wing, they just aren’t obviously left wing.

I “knew” that the Big Dig (”Big Pig”) was a bad joke from day one. Day zero, actually. It was seen as a way of transferring money from Washington (you, dear fellow citizens) to local Union workers and contractors.


6 posted on 07/20/2008 4:12:10 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (His Negritude has made his negritude the central theme of this campaign)
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To: MartinaMisc

7 posted on 07/20/2008 4:35:59 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

If you’re Catholic and you vote for anyone that’s pro abortion, you’re not a Catholic. Any person that receives the host and is pro abortion, should leave the church. Any priest that knowingly gives communion to someone that does not support life, should be removed from the church. Period.


8 posted on 07/20/2008 4:43:42 AM PDT by TheRake
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To: TheRake

Catholicism is more an attitude and an identity than a belief system anymore. I’ll bet 90% of the Roman clergy in Massachusetts votes Democrat regularly.


9 posted on 07/20/2008 5:03:04 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (His Negritude has made his negritude the central theme of this campaign)
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To: lexusppd

You apparently fit right in. You sound like one of them.


10 posted on 07/20/2008 5:24:04 AM PDT by rlmorel (Clinging bitterly to Guns and God in Massachusetts...:)
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To: rlmorel

Poor baby, have I OFFENDED you?

If the truth hurts then that’s a bit of tough sh*t, eh? As I said I didn’t coin the phrase and it seems to be widely accepted as true.


11 posted on 07/20/2008 5:37:43 AM PDT by lexusppd
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To: lexusppd

No, you just sound exactly like those people you condemn.

I think you sound like a liberal. What you did is called “projection”.


12 posted on 07/20/2008 5:46:37 AM PDT by rlmorel (Clinging bitterly to Guns and God in Massachusetts...:)
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To: Diogenesis

Oh how I hope the “Masshole in the middle” is not the McPain’s pick for VP....we are so screwed.


13 posted on 07/20/2008 5:53:19 AM PDT by WeldonsRight (Right and (apparently) wrong at the same time)
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To: MartinaMisc

Good article, although I never saw the word “democRAT” used once. But it’s a one-party state (at least when it comes to entrenched power), like Michigan, so readers probably knew that word wasn’t needed.


14 posted on 07/20/2008 6:03:04 AM PDT by 300winmag (Deterrence is an activity, Destruction is a profession)
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To: TheRake

AMEN to that.


15 posted on 07/20/2008 6:45:49 AM PDT by mimaw
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To: rlmorel

Projection my butt! I LIVED there for 12 years and EXPERIENCED the bias, arrogance and condescension that is part and parcel of the makeup of these frauds.

I have NEVER seen a group of people who had less to be arrogant and condescending about then these.

Are ALL those who refer to them as Massholes, projecting as well?


16 posted on 07/20/2008 7:13:14 AM PDT by lexusppd
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To: lexusppd
Indeed.

"...all the pain they get from this swindle is deserved and I am happy they are having it stuck to them..."

Nice. It is one thing to take satisfaction from the bad fortune of those who have wronged you or your country by being part of a cohesive group doing harm, but you seem to revel in the bad fortune of a lot of people who you have never net, know nothing about, many of whom are probably apolitical and just happen to live in the same place.

"...Almost to a person..."

You ought to really meet more than one person (yourself) before you can pass judgement on everyone. Sitting on your couch eating cheese doodles watching American Idol for twelve years doesn't qualify you.

"...I have found MA citizens to be arrogant and condescending toward those they consider not there kind, which is anyone not a New Englander..."

Funny. I suspect with attitudes like this, it is any wonder you perceive that people are arrogant and condescending towards you. I can see it now, you act like a total jerk to people, even strangers, and they are rude, brusque and condescending back to you in turn.

Of course, this behavior would be a total surprise to someone lacking the tools of introspection and self evaluation.

I do agree that if your circle of acquaintances is a circle of one, then you are going to find that "almost to a person" people are arrogant and condescending. YOUR "friend" who wrote that screed certainly is.

17 posted on 07/20/2008 7:20:38 AM PDT by rlmorel (Clinging bitterly to Guns and God in Massachusetts...:)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
The people are nowhere nearly as liberal as the politicians they elect...

Now that is about as big of a disconnect that I have ever seen. What's wrong with you folks from Mass?

18 posted on 07/20/2008 7:43:36 AM PDT by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
The people are nowhere nearly as liberal as the politicians they elect...

Now that is about as big of a disconnect that I have ever seen. What's wrong with you folks from Mass?

19 posted on 07/20/2008 7:43:56 AM PDT by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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To: brushcop; Lonesome in Massachussets

There are a lot of conservatives up here, but nowhere near the numbers of both the committed liberals, and the sheep who just vote liberal because they are inundated with the firehose of liberal information from the media up here and the overpowering preponderance of liberal candidates.

There is hope, though...and not Obamahope.

Jim Ogonowski is a republican, though not as conservative as some would like, and almost pulled off an upset for a conservative in a highly liberal district against a candidate (Niki Tsongas) who is so far left she is in Ted Kennedy’s lap (sorry for the mental picture). He lost the election 51-45%, and has announced he is going to run for John Kerry’s seat. He was career Air Force, and his brother was killed while flying American Flight 11 (which also killed an acquaintance of mine, David Kovalcin).

Bob Parks, a Freeper, is running for a state rep seat up here (though in a different district than mine, sadly.) He is a Navy veteran, and his column “Black and Right” at http://blackandright.mndnet.com/ is excellently written. I plan to help him in some way financially or otherwise.

I also drove through my town last week, and saw a bunch of young people out with signs for a candidate Sonny Parente for State Representative. At first I thought, “Oh great. ANOTHER liberal with starry eyed young kids out holding signs on a Friday evening...”

But since he was running for state rep in my district, I checked him out...turns out he is a REPUBLICAN! Go figure. He is selectman on the selectmen committee my dad served on for many years. I have yet to find out more about him, but hey...the fact he is a Republican in Massachusetts is cause for optimism. He is 26 years old, was elected to the board of selectmen at 22 and is now running for State Rep. This is good, because we have UBER Liberal state reps now. (although, Pat Walrath, the one who is retiring, beat out my father in his run for state rep, and sent me a very nice personal note last year when my mom passed away. Very classy, I thought)

I know what you mean, though.

My buddy and I went out to the big air show in Oshosh, WI a few years back, and found ourselves on the flight line before it was shut down, speaking in a group of about 15 people from all over the USA. Perfect strangers.

When we said we were from Massachusetts, there was a pause, and one of the guys said: “What’s going on with you folks up there in Massachusetts, electing Kennedy and Kerry?”

All we could do was mumble and kick the tarmac with our foot. That is how the rest of the normal country views us politically, and we understand it. Hard to disagree.

Not like some other poster on this thread who thinks we should all burn in hell because of it.


20 posted on 07/20/2008 8:07:10 AM PDT by rlmorel (Clinging bitterly to Guns and God in Massachusetts...:)
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To: rlmorel

Agree with most of what you have written rlmorel, the term “Masshole” I’ve notice is the term the homosexual carpetbaggers love to use against natives here.

I also agree that folks here deserve what they get for decades of election after election voting in complete & utter idiots.

Just think 30 years ago the South Shore & Cape Cod were solidly Republican.


21 posted on 07/20/2008 8:41:30 AM PDT by Sparky1776
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To: rlmorel
Not like some other poster on this thread who thinks we should all burn in hell because of it.

Oh no, not at all. I would really enjoy snooping around MASS, very much and I know there are like-minding folks there no doubt. If I could just insulate myself from politics while snooping, it would be great. Maybe my wife and I will do just that.

22 posted on 07/20/2008 9:02:36 AM PDT by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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To: Sparky1776

Hard to believe, isn’t it?

Then you look at what has happened to Vermont...my wife and I took a ride up to St. Johnsbury recently, which is WAAAY up there. We passed through some extremely rural sections of Vermont, and we saw quite a few Barns with the words “Take back Vermont” painted on them. I mean, sure they have Bernie Sanders, enough said there.

Then you look at Maine.

New Hampshire is well on its way to liberalism and socialism as well. Of course, they like to blame it all on the “Massholes” who migrate up there to live because of the lower taxes. I cannot argue with them there, but that isn’t happening in a vacuum either.


23 posted on 07/20/2008 9:03:42 AM PDT by rlmorel (Clinging bitterly to Guns and God in Massachusetts...:)
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To: rlmorel

BTW, I’ve been keeping up with Bob Parks, very refreshing...


24 posted on 07/20/2008 9:04:23 AM PDT by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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To: brushcop

Yes...isn’t he great? His commonsense viewpoints on topics must irritate the libs up here to no end.


25 posted on 07/20/2008 9:20:54 AM PDT by rlmorel (Clinging bitterly to Guns and God in Massachusetts...:)
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To: rlmorel

I doubt most of them have heard of him, I doubt most Republicans here have either.

The Republican Party needs to do a better job showcasing candidates and highlighting how lousy a job the Dems have done for folks here.


26 posted on 07/20/2008 9:32:06 AM PDT by Sparky1776
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To: Sparky1776

Agreed. Basically, the GOP has given up on helping any candidates in MA. They consider any money spent here as wasted money.


27 posted on 07/20/2008 10:38:10 AM PDT by rlmorel (Clinging bitterly to Guns and God in Massachusetts...:)
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