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Rally helps felons register to vote
The Fayetteville Observer ^ | July 20, 2008 | Laura Arenschield

Posted on 07/20/2008 6:10:29 AM PDT by DJ Taylor

Leon Quinn got out of prison in New York last year, moved to North Carolina and tried to start a new life.

But employers don’t want to hire a convicted felon, and it’s hard to get your own place when you don’t have a job, he said.

“It’s like we’re marked as criminals,” Quinn said. “It’s like we don’t have a say.”

But, Quinn learned Saturday he does have a say, even with a felony conviction.

In North Carolina, people convicted of a felony can vote, once they’ve served their time behind bars and completed the terms of their probation and parole. On Saturday, three criminal justice organizations hosted a rally at Bronco Square on Murchison Road to educate people about convicts’ rights and to register to vote as many felons as they could.

About 75 people came to the rally, which was hosted by Democracy North Carolina, Fresh Start Incorporated and the Institute for Community Justice of Fayetteville State. Jennifer Frye, associate director of Democracy North Carolina, said the group registered 9 voters who had been convicted of a felony.

“The right to vote is one of our most fundamental rights in a democracy,” Frye said. “It’s a ticket to feeling like a first-class citizen.”

Quinn agrees. He was watching television with his girlfriend Saturday morning when he saw Charles Evans, a Fayetteville city councilman, on the air. Evans was saying that felons could register to vote in North Carolina. Quinn almost didn’t believe it.

“He was under the impression that, as a felon, he couldn’t vote,” said his girlfriend, Margo McMillan.

Quinn had been in and out of trouble since he was a teenager. He mostly sold crack, and figures that from 1981 — when he first got arrested — to 2007, he spent about 15 years locked up.

The thought that he might have a say in how his society functions made him happy. He’d like to elect someone who will help him get a job.

“That’s why I’d like to vote,” he said, laughing.

McMillan nodded.

“Once you did your time, I don’t think you need to keep paying for your past,” she said.

Staff writer Laura Arenschield can be reached at arenschieldl@fayobserver.com or 486-3572.


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KEYWORDS: democrats; felons; felonvote; obama; voterdrives
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The Democrat Party: A loose collection of socialists, hate America first leftists, race-baiters, welfare parasites, enviro-wackos, perverts, feminists, pseudo intellectual elitists, the feeble minded, and now felons. Did I leave anyone out?
1 posted on 07/20/2008 6:10:30 AM PDT by DJ Taylor
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To: DJ Taylor
Registering new Democrat voters for the Party Of Felons.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 07/20/2008 6:14:18 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: DJ Taylor
He’d like to elect someone who will help him get a job.

That says it all, don't it?

3 posted on 07/20/2008 6:16:51 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: DJ Taylor

Did I leave anyone out?

Yes.....illegals (unless of course you are including them in another classification which you did a good job of listing)


4 posted on 07/20/2008 6:20:10 AM PDT by Travelgirl
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To: DJ Taylor

As of May 10, 2007 all 50 states allow felons to
vote. Restrictions apply in some states.

The two most restrictive are Kentucky, where
voting rights can be restored only when the
Governor approves an application for an executive
pardon for reinstatement of voting rights from an
individual after completion of his/her sentence.

Mississippi, where An individual, after
completion of their sentence, must go to his or
her state representative and convince them to
personally author a bill reenfranchising that
individual. Both houses of the legislature must
then pass the bill, and the governor must sign
it. Each year about 10 to 12 people are
re-enfranchised in Mississippi.

25 states allow felons to vote after serving
their sentences and parole or supervised release,
13 states allow felons to vote as soon as they
leave prison, 2 states, (Maine and Vermont) allow
incarcerated felons to vote.

The other 8 states allow felons to vote with less
severe restrictions such as applying to county
boards or waiting 2 to 5 years after completion
of sentence.

http://www.felonvotingprocon.org/pop/StateLaws.htm


5 posted on 07/20/2008 6:21:09 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Osama Obama is a lying sack of s***, communist, mooselimb.)
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Felon and habitual criminal for more than 20 years: an Obama voter.
6 posted on 07/20/2008 6:25:10 AM PDT by Godwin1
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To: Travelgirl
"Yes.....illegals"

And how could I have forgotten to include the dead?

7 posted on 07/20/2008 6:25:25 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: DJ Taylor

While most of them will register Democrat and allowing felon voting is against my self interest I really don’t have a problem with someone who has served his full sentence being restored his full rights as a citizen.


8 posted on 07/20/2008 6:26:06 AM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: mewzilla

I was thinking the exact same thing when I read that sentence. He’ll make a perfect Democrat voter.


9 posted on 07/20/2008 6:26:13 AM PDT by jbenedic2 (Nothing new for the New York Times)
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To: DJ Taylor
Texas allowed Felons to vote two years after they
finished their sentences.
One of the first things Governor Bush did was
remove the two year wait.
10 posted on 07/20/2008 6:26:38 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto!)
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To: jbenedic2
He’ll make a perfect Democrat voter.

And with that attitude, a future re-offender.

11 posted on 07/20/2008 6:29:43 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
He’d like to elect someone who will help him get a job. That says it all, don't it?

What should happen to this guy? Should he be allowed to rot in the streets? I can't imagine what it must be like for someone to have erred, did his time and now has a clean record (no current arrests) to try to find a decent job.

I am not saying that any politician will help but the guy's apparently trying to find a job and no one will hire him because of his past convictions. What does he do?

12 posted on 07/20/2008 6:30:54 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: raybbr
He’d like to elect someone who will help him get a job. That says it all, don't it?

That's a damn sight better than him wanting to elect someone who will authorize him a monthly welfare check and all sorts of goodies on the taxpayer's dime.
13 posted on 07/20/2008 6:35:12 AM PDT by mkjessup (If the choice is a suntanned Jimmy Carter or a Cranky Old Guy, I'm with the Cranky Old Guy)
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To: DJ Taylor
"Leon Quinn got out of prison in New York last year, moved to North Carolina and tried to start a new life.
Quinn had been in and out of trouble since he was a teenager. He mostly sold crack, and figures that from 1981 — to 2007, he spent about 15 years locked up.
... employers don’t want to hire a convicted felon...he said.
“It’s like we’re marked as criminals,” Quinn said...

Well DUH!

Sucks when you have to lay in the bed you made, huh?
? And why do you think you should not have to continue paying for your crimes after your prison term is over?
There are plenty of people I'm sure that are still paying for the crimes you committed against them, the ruined lives of the families whose son or daughter, you killed with the drugs you sold them, or they are still alive but living in a mental hospital with a fried brain. People whose loved ones were shot and killed by those who became addicts from the drugs you sold them.

There are plenty of jobs for a person like you. They involve a lot of charity work. They may not pay well, but so what. You should spend the rest of your life helping those whose lives you've ruined; It tells people, and most of all God, that you are truly repentant for your sins against him and those you've harmed. God will tell you when it's enough when your fortunes improve.

14 posted on 07/20/2008 6:45:01 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: DJ Taylor

And the infirm.


15 posted on 07/20/2008 6:47:43 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: raybbr

....someone have erred, did his time and now has a clean record.....etc...
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Your comments are correct and there should be something done but this guy is a ‘career criminal’ dating back to 1981 which culminated in a 15 year sentence and he ‘hasn’t been caught for a year or so’.
Yes, maybe he did ‘see the light’ but wouldn’t we be better served if these cases were handled ‘case by case’ rather than a blanket clearing.
I was a drinker then a practicing, functioning, drunk for 25 or so years, haven’t had a drink since 1990 but if I go out tomorrow and down a 6 pack, I am a practicing drunk again. It took a DUI in 1990 to get me on this track but considering that I should have had several DUI’s I was very fortunate.
However, the state took about 7 years to give my ‘full right to drive’ privileges back.
Now we may consider that ‘rehabilitation’ but my fate and future is in my own hands as to the drinking etc...


16 posted on 07/20/2008 6:50:40 AM PDT by xrmusn
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To: raybbr
"I can't imagine what it must be like for someone to have erred, did his time and now has a clean record (no current arrests) to try to find a decent job."

Maybe if it was his first "err". maybe even the second, or perhaps a third. But not a career criminal like him. He made his bed, let him sleep in it. Or do as I suggest above.

17 posted on 07/20/2008 6:51:56 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: goldstategop; PhilDragoo; devolve; potlatch; y'all
Yep! I didn't have to read the article to know who was supporting the criminals here. The criminal party, of course!

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Quinn had been in and out of trouble since he was a teenager. He mostly sold crack, and figures that from 1981 — when he first got arrested — to 2007, he spent about 15 years locked up.

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This guy will likely be BACK in the slammer by the first Tuesday after the first Monday this November.

18 posted on 07/20/2008 6:59:54 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (McRINO needs reach across the aisle to Conservatives for a CHANGE! Dang him!!!)
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To: raybbr
"I am not saying that any politician will help but the guy's apparently trying to find a job and no one will hire him because of his past convictions. What does he do? "

There are plenty of jobs for a person like him. They just aren't the best jobs. He can work for any Democrats campaign team for example....

Or what the heck, just give them full pardons when they are released, then they can run for office as a Democrat, even POTUS.

19 posted on 07/20/2008 7:01:19 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To “err” is to misplace your keys, drop Grandma’s favorite serving dish, or oversleep on a work day. Committing a felony is a conscious, deliberate act, a decision to choose wrong over right, evil over good.
20 posted on 07/20/2008 7:04:25 AM PDT by Godwin1
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To: DJ Taylor

“It’s like we’re marked as criminals,” Quinn said. “It’s like we don’t have a say.”

Boo Freakin’ Hoo. Actions have consequences.

Start at the bottom, Buddy. Sweepin’ floors ain’t glamorous, but it’ll pay your bills. And then YOUR hard-earned tax dollars can go to house other felons. See how that works?

And you forgot to thank me for your Room & Board for all of those years!


21 posted on 07/20/2008 7:15:02 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: DJ Taylor

I have a cousin who was habitually criminal until he was about 30. Since then he’s been working and raising a family and turned away from the life of crime for 25 years now. So I know that some of them do change.

As a basic principle of fairness once someone completes their sentence I have no problem with them having their rights restored. Or should we do like they do in england? Allow the Govt to place people on probation who “might” commit a crime? Who makes that decision? Some FR Keyboard Warrior?


22 posted on 07/20/2008 7:19:05 AM PDT by Seruzawa (American Government: Providing Middle Class Incomes to Unemployables for Over 200 Years!)
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To: raybbr

“What does he do?”

If he’s THAT motivated, he can start his own small business. Cleaning company. Trash/recycling disposal. Dog walking. Hot Dog Stand. Then he can hire all the felons he wants to come to work for him.

But somehow I doubt he will do either.


23 posted on 07/20/2008 7:19:05 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: DJ Taylor

Did that criminal just say “It’s like we’re marked as criminals?”

Ok?


24 posted on 07/20/2008 7:22:37 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: potlatch; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Grampa Dave; Jeff Head; Travis McGee

25 posted on 07/20/2008 7:23:32 AM PDT by devolve (- "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it." Press #2 for English)
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To: DemonDeac

Specify “full sentence”. Do you mean the entire sentence they were given, but released early because of good behavior, or overcrowding? Because few, even though not in prison, served their full sentence.


26 posted on 07/20/2008 7:23:51 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: autumnraine
Did that criminal just say “It’s like we’re marked as criminals?”

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Yep! Doh !!!!!


27 posted on 07/20/2008 7:25:51 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (McRINO needs reach across the aisle to Conservatives for a CHANGE! Dang him!!!)
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To: devolve

Ah, yes!!

THERE is the leader of the Pack, and the “Not-Convicted
Murderer Cuz he Got Off on a Technicality” Bill Ayers himself !!!!

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His buddies were so enept they produced some of the
earliest Darwin Award Nominees ! ...

“Todd Gitlin, a former SDS member and author of “The Sixties: Years of Hope, Days of Rage,” harshly criticizes Ayers and other members of Weatherman for wanting to kill, even if they didn’t. Gitlin said in 2001 that the only reason no one was murdered was because the first known attempt resulted in members of the group blowing themselves up instead: “OK, let’s give them a medal for not killing anybody besides themselves. But they wanted to be terrorists. They planned on being terrorists. Then their bomb blew up and killed several of them and they thought better of it. They were failed terrorists.”[1]”

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers

Much of the controversy about Ayers during the decade since the year 2000 stems from an interview he gave to the New York Times on the occasion of the memoir’s publication.[15] The reporter quoted him as saying “I don’t regret setting bombs” and “I feel we didn’t do enough”, and, when asked if he would “do it all again” as saying “I don’t want to discount the possibility.”[10]


28 posted on 07/20/2008 7:41:48 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (McRINO needs reach across the aisle to Conservatives for a CHANGE! Dang him!!!)
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To: devolve; y'all

29 posted on 07/20/2008 7:49:15 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (McRINO needs reach across the aisle to Conservatives for a CHANGE! Dang him!!!)
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To: autumnraine; potlatch

Kinda hard to tell which one is Mommie and
which is Daddy in that pic, huh ???

:^D


31 posted on 07/20/2008 7:58:49 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (McRINO needs reach across the aisle to Conservatives for a CHANGE! Dang him!!!)
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To: autumnraine; potlatch

http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/owlive/img/jan03/Sundbig012303.jpg

Not sure why that pic went away. :^O


32 posted on 07/20/2008 8:01:11 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (McRINO needs reach across the aisle to Conservatives for a CHANGE! Dang him!!!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
"Then their bomb blew up and killed several of them and they thought better of it.

These were not accidental detonations. There was equipment available back then, and is being used today to detonate roadside bombs in Iraq, that could detonate electric blasting caps at a distance. Known “Weathermen” terrorists who were thought to be in possession of explosives would receive a visit in the middle of the night. A van would pull up in front of the terrorist’s apartment building, and a microwave antenna would be aimed at the suspect apartment. Any terrorist inside the apartment would feel the air around him become slightly warmer, the electric blasting caps in their bombs would detonate and they would all be sent to hell where they belonged.

Disclaimer: This could be fiction. Any similarity between this account and any person living, dead, or undecided could be purely coincidental.

33 posted on 07/20/2008 8:07:27 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: DJ Taylor

Booooooooooooooommm !!!!


34 posted on 07/20/2008 8:11:03 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (McRINO needs reach across the aisle to Conservatives for a CHANGE! Dang him!!!)
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To: MeekOneGOP; potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik

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Good posts Meek

Obama is an admitted felon too

Just not arrested, tried, convicted

Prosecution for possession, use, transfer, sale of cocaine in Chicago is rare

Read the state felony statutes:

“A person shall be guilty of committing a felony if......”

To bad Obama was not arrested in New York state!


35 posted on 07/20/2008 8:15:12 AM PDT by devolve ( "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it." - Elect a cokehead '08 !)
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To: devolve

Wow. I am just shocked by everyones attitude here.

The person is a rehabilitated felon. He served his time for the crimes he committed. He deserves to restart his life as a citizen and that includes giving him the right to vote as well as pay taxes.

That’s called compassion and I believe it is the Christian thing to do.


36 posted on 07/20/2008 8:39:00 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: DemonDeac
“It’s like we’re marked as criminals,” Quinn said. “It’s like we don’t have a say.”

Well, you should have thought of that before you committed a felony.

37 posted on 07/20/2008 8:52:33 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Thanks for the snap back to reality, Nathan -- good post! I was sitting here reading the earlier posts, wondering how many FReepers know what it's like to have to answer "yes" to "Have you ever been arrested? Have you ever been convicted of a felony?" on a job application. Thirty years ago, when I was a very wild and heedless 21, I partied too hard, lost my temper on what turned out to be a crooked cop who lied to the judge, and was charged with Felony Assault on an Officer, to which I plead guilty (I slapped the cop, but I didn't tear his uniform, as the officer falsely claimed I did).

Believe me, you don't get hired by big companies with interesting jobs when you either have to answer "yes" and explain, or lie and get caught in a check of records. It was a blessing in disguise, as so much of God's bounty has been for me -- He works His wonders in the most awesome ways, and those things (alcoholism, for example) I thought were curses turned out to be my personal gifts, my personal blessings, from Him. They've made me a better person, which is why I am so leery of well-meaning people, conservative and liberal, who think they can interfere in a person's path to God by meddling in sins involving weakness of the flesh -- that can only ever be, and WILL only ever be, between God and the individual, no matter how much do-gooders like to pretend otherwise ...

ANYWAY, I was thinking how in a splendid way, the fact that I had to find another option than large companies for employment led me to the a wonderful career, a unique way of making money doing something that enriches commerce around me and which I enjoy very much; I wouldn't trade it for anything.

And yes you are so right -- those charity jobs you talk about are so very appropriate and right for ex Felons who've done real time for truly serious, horrible crimes (I spent a night in jail and paid a fine, that's all!), and I had forgotten all about them reading this thread until you mentioned them. YOU ARE SO RIGHT about that. I made my bed and so do the ex Felons, and the thing is, God provides a multitude of ways to lie in it with grace and comfort if you let Him.

Thanks again, Nathan, for the good reminder.

38 posted on 07/20/2008 8:54:07 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: goldstategop
“It’s like we’re marked as criminals,”

Too bad the French Foreign Legion won't even hire him.

Leon should have thought about the consequences of his crime before committing the act itself.

If Leon earnestly seeks God out, then he will find Him.

39 posted on 07/20/2008 9:10:01 AM PDT by Prole (Pray for the families of Chris and Channon.)
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To: DJ Taylor

Only reading the headline I’m going to guess that this is a Democrat initiative(?)


40 posted on 07/20/2008 9:28:11 AM PDT by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: The Duke

Anybody know a good community activist to assist in this change?


41 posted on 07/20/2008 9:32:56 AM PDT by Peelod
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To: The Duke

Jennifer Frye, associate director of Democracy North Carolina, helps Michael Corbitt with his registration form.

"Only reading the headline I’m going to guess that this is a Democrat initiative(?)"

You guessed it.

42 posted on 07/20/2008 9:41:23 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: devolve

Ah, stars and levitating balls!


43 posted on 07/20/2008 1:29:44 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: potlatch

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Yup

I could not find my bouncing basketball

Not sure how Obama’s “touching the star” shows up


44 posted on 07/20/2008 1:38:52 PM PDT by devolve ( "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it." - Elect a cokehead '08 !)
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To: devolve
The star looks good.


45 posted on 07/20/2008 1:45:08 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: potlatch

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That .gif was well ahead of the news!


46 posted on 07/20/2008 1:59:43 PM PDT by devolve ( "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it." - Elect a cokehead '08 !)
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To: devolve

Before it’s time, huh? I had some reason for thinking of it at the time.


47 posted on 07/20/2008 2:02:41 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: Nathan Zachary; Huber; sionnsar; Salvation; NYer; Kolokotronis
God will tell you when it's enough when your fortunes improve.

Is this a protestant concept, or is it shared by the catholic and orthodox?

48 posted on 07/20/2008 2:48:08 PM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
That’s called compassion and I believe it is the Christian thing to do.

But playing the elder brother boosts one's ego like little else.

49 posted on 07/20/2008 2:53:36 PM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters!)
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To: Clint Williams; Nathan Zachary; Huber; sionnsar; Salvation; NYer

“Is this a protestant concept, or is it shared by the catholic and orthodox?”

We need to continually repent for our sins. In fact, the Desert Fathers taught that in their entire lives, despite having spent them in faithful prayer, they hadn’t even made a beginning of repentance. One of the most respected saints in Orthodoxy, +Symeon the New Theologian, wrote

“...it is good to repent every day, as the commandment demands. For the words: ‘Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand’ impose upon us a practice not limited to a definite time but for always.”


50 posted on 07/20/2008 3:18:05 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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