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New Dwarf Planet!
CCSSC.org ^ | 7/14/08

Posted on 07/20/2008 10:55:33 AM PDT by LibWhacker

Image credit: compiled from NASA public images

At times, people still express bemusement, or confusion, that Pluto was reclassified as a "dwarf planet", after having been considered a full-fledged planet for the better part of a century. One thing I always point out to them is that we're discovering more and more roughly Pluto-sized bodies. If we call them all planets, the list of planets would rapidly grow unmanageable! (Do you want to memorize the names of 20 planets? How about 80?)

Today the list just got bumped up by one. Meet Makemake, the first body in our solar system to be classified as a dwarf planet since the 2006 IAU decision that established the category of dwarf planets in the first place. When the IAU made its ruling, they put three worlds in that category: Pluto, Ceres, and Eris. Now Makemake makes the fourth.

Follow up:

It's also the third world to be classified as plutoid - a dwarf planet beyond Neptune's orbit. Pluto and Eris (and now Makemake) are plutoids; Ceres, which orbits in the asteroid belt, isn't.

The discoverer of Makemake, Mike Brown, is the same guy who discovered Eris. (That discovery triggered a lot of the most recent discussion of what makes a planet, so in a way, Dr. Brown's discoveries led to the whole dwarf planet issue in the first place.) He has a fascinating discussion of why he proposed the name Makemake for this world. The name was confirmed by the IAU at the same time as the world was classified as dwarf planet and plutoid.

So now the planetary record stands thusly:

You can keep track with this official IAU list.

Expect this list to expand, however. There are many bodies that stand a good chance of being added to the dwarf planet list. In most cases, it's a matter of confirming that these bodies are actually more or less spherical - that they're large enough for their own gravity to have pulled them into a sphere. (Geek speak for this: hydrostatic equilibrium.) Some future candidates:

That's not counting Charon, which is currently listed as a moon of Pluto. Physically speaking, though, that's questionable, since it would be more accurate to say that Pluto and Charon both orbit around their common center of mass, which lies somewhere between them. I personally think that Pluto and Charon should be considered a "double dwarf planet"...



TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: dwarf; makemake; planet; plutoid; xplanets

1 posted on 07/20/2008 10:55:34 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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2 posted on 07/20/2008 10:57:40 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

minnie mearth?


3 posted on 07/20/2008 10:58:17 AM PDT by al baby (Hi mom)
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To: LibWhacker

Don’t call them Dwarf Planets. They prefer to be called Little Planets.

Let’s have some consideration around here : )


4 posted on 07/20/2008 10:58:20 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: LibWhacker

They are little planets not dwarfs - and certainly not midgets!


5 posted on 07/20/2008 10:58:35 AM PDT by The Lumster (USA - where the innocent have nothing to fear!)
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To: LibWhacker

That picture is hilarious. I hadn’t seen that one before. LOL!


6 posted on 07/20/2008 11:00:53 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The U.S. Constitution was not written to protect those who want to destroy America.)
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To: LibWhacker

I wish he’d named it Mike Brown instead of Makemake.


7 posted on 07/20/2008 11:01:46 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Only a Kennedy between us and tyranny.)
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To: LibWhacker

Makemake is not a new plutoid. Too much hype in the headline.


8 posted on 07/20/2008 11:03:09 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: LibWhacker

Interesting but why go away from the tradition of naming them after characters in Greek or Roman mythology? I have no idea where Makemake comes from but would bet long odds that it has something to do with political correctness.


9 posted on 07/20/2008 11:06:33 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: LibWhacker
Title is obviously a mistake (if not worse). It should have been “Under the wise guidance of Obama NASA scientists make more discoveries”.
10 posted on 07/20/2008 11:06:48 AM PDT by alecqss
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To: LibWhacker
a planet is now officially known as "a celestial body that (a) is in orbit around the Sun, (b) has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a hydrostatic equilibrium (nearly round) shape and (c) has cleared the neighborhood around its orbit."

Question: What the hell does "cleared the neighborhood" mean and how is it quantitatively measured?

Answer: The planet has no illegal aliens within on light year.

11 posted on 07/20/2008 11:08:55 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: RightWhale

I think he’d argue that it’s not officially a plutoid until the IAU makes its ruling, which it did on Monday. But you’re quite right, I think Makemake was discovered back in May, wasn’t it?


12 posted on 07/20/2008 11:09:57 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Fred Nerks

Ping.


13 posted on 07/20/2008 11:10:26 AM PDT by LucyT (What happens in Denver won't stay in Denver... August 25 - 28, 2008)
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To: LibWhacker

Makemake is newly named. I can allow that much. First star should be appearing in a couple weeks if it clears up; until then I allow very little.


14 posted on 07/20/2008 11:13:57 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: yarddog

Makemake is a polynesian god.

I’m waiting for the first person to try naming a dwarf planet “allah.” That should be fun to watch.


15 posted on 07/20/2008 11:14:35 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: yarddog
Yup... From the discovering astronomer's page:
Makemake is the creator of humanity and the god of fertility in the mythology of the South Pacific island of Rapa Nui. He was the chief god of the Tangata manu bird-man cult and was worshipped in the form of sea birds, which were his incarnation. His material symbol, a man with a bird's head, can be found carved in petroglyphs on the island.

Makemake, being of Polynesian descent, is pronounced Hawaiian-style (or at least what I think of as Hawaiian style), as “Maki-maki.”


16 posted on 07/20/2008 11:16:46 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

I can’t believe it matters.


17 posted on 07/20/2008 11:20:00 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Just a typical white guy: clinging to my guns, my religion, and my antipathy...)
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To: LibWhacker

Space is dark.
Space is... cold.
Stars occupy minute quantities of space,
they are clustered a few billion here a few billion there,
as if seeking safety in numbers.
Space does not care.


18 posted on 07/20/2008 11:22:46 AM PDT by Seruzawa (American Government: Providing Middle Class Incomes to Unemployables for Over 200 Years!)
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To: MediaMole
I’m waiting for the first person to try naming a dwarf planet “allah.” That should be fun to watch.

How about naming a hurricane "Muhammad" or "Ali"??

We should definitely protest the exclusion of the name Muhammad for a hurricane as the Government condoning a religion. (or whatever the opposite of separation from church and State)
19 posted on 07/20/2008 11:22:56 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (http://auntiecoosa.blogspot.com -- read, learn, blog, or get out of my way.)
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To: LibWhacker

His website says it was discovered in 2005.


20 posted on 07/20/2008 11:24:55 AM PDT by Library Lady
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To: LibWhacker

So, when are they finally going to find Nibiru? It’s gotta be close. Obama is obviously from there.


21 posted on 07/20/2008 11:25:43 AM PDT by Seruzawa (American Government: Providing Middle Class Incomes to Unemployables for Over 200 Years!)
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To: yarddog
Planets have Roman names. But I guess that they can get around this by claiming it's not a planet.

Then again, the moons all have strange rules. If I remember correctly, the moons of Jupiter have to end with a specific letter. It's something like the moons ending with "a" orbit one way and the ones ending in "o" orbit the other way.

so is it Make - Make or is it Mah Key Mah Key ??

22 posted on 07/20/2008 11:26:21 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter.)
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To: Library Lady
OMG, you're right, thanks!

So for more than three years it's been variously called 2005 FY9, Easterbunny, and K50331A, but didn't get its permanent name and dwarf planet designation until a week ago.

When we think of things moving at astronomical speeds, at least I tend to think of them as moving around really fast. But this does not apply to astronomers themselves.

23 posted on 07/20/2008 11:35:30 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
We need to start nudging these dwarf planets into orbits that intersect with Mars. We could find a nice water dwarf planet and one made of of iron and collide them into Mars' surface to raise its mass and hopefully jump starts its core to increase its magnetic field. Then we combine Deimos and Phobos and add some more mass and set the single moon in an orbit that will stabilize Mars' seasons. With a 20,000 year time frame to cool things down, I think it is entirely possible to make Mars more habitable.
24 posted on 07/20/2008 11:37:32 AM PDT by Sawdring
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To: LibWhacker
Hello! Pizza Palace..This is..Er Willie Tanner, We need 23 large meat pizzas. Make that extra meat, we're celebration. They found Melmac! HA!
25 posted on 07/20/2008 11:42:34 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (")
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To: LibWhacker
> Dwarf Planets

VERY politically incorrect. The preferred term is "little planets."

26 posted on 07/20/2008 11:43:32 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: LibWhacker

I have an old geography book. It shows and names more planets than what we learned in the 60’s. It also shows a big warm spot in the Pacific.


27 posted on 07/20/2008 11:46:40 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: Seruzawa
Nibiru, huh? I had to look that up, thanks! Anunnakians must look something like the Ferengi, big-eared, dopey looking things.
28 posted on 07/20/2008 11:52:07 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Tanniker Smith

I had never thought about it but they all are Roman names except for Uranus which is Greek.


29 posted on 07/20/2008 12:11:34 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: NewJerseyJoe
> Dwarf Planets

VERY politically incorrect. The preferred term is "little planets."

Oh my, what are we doing here? Next thing we'll see is "Planet Tossing Competition" on ESPN !

30 posted on 07/20/2008 12:16:17 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Conspiracy Guy

>>Don’t call them Dwarf Planets. They prefer to be called Little Planets.

Let’s have some consideration around here : )<<

How insensitive of you! They are size-challenged planets.

And why isn’t Dr. Brown working on the flux capacitor?

Pluto for Plutonium, Neptune for Neptunium, ... Makemake for Makemakeium? Doesn’t quite have the same ring to it?


31 posted on 07/20/2008 12:17:02 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: All

Al Gore was right. Clearly this planet was created by global warming.


32 posted on 07/20/2008 12:36:14 PM PDT by CaliGangsta
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To: Xenalyte; Eaker; eastforker; TheMom; pax_et_bonum; Allegra
New Dwarf Planet!

I bet I could find a girlfriend for Winky there!

33 posted on 07/20/2008 12:39:19 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: NTHockey

I apologize for my insenstivity.

I am so ashamed of me.


34 posted on 07/20/2008 12:48:00 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I wonder if God is into “little planet bowling”?


35 posted on 07/20/2008 12:51:05 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: humblegunner
I bet I could find a girlfriend for Winky there!

She'd have to look kind of like a monkey.

36 posted on 07/20/2008 1:01:36 PM PDT by Allegra (Ain't it grand? I'm back in the sand...)
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To: yarddog
I had never thought about it but they all are Roman names except for Uranus which is Greek.

That's because Greeks have a special interest in Uranus.

37 posted on 07/20/2008 1:08:19 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Barack Obama--the first black Jimmy Carter.)
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To: Lancey Howard

When the time comes.


38 posted on 07/20/2008 1:09:26 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: LibWhacker; All

Did we humans find VULCAN yet??

39 posted on 07/20/2008 1:15:09 PM PDT by RightWingTeen (Caution: homeschooled teen with a Brain that works - LIBERALS you can't control me!!)
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To: Tanniker Smith

The 4 largest moons (the ones first seen by Galileo) are Io, Europa, Ganymede, and Callisto—so 3 different final vowels for 4 moons. The largest moons revolve counterclockwise, but a lot of the smaller ones revolve clockwise (which may indicate they are captured asteroids).


40 posted on 07/20/2008 1:18:12 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: yarddog

Uranus is the Latin version of the Greek name Ouranos. Likewise with Pluto—it’s a Latinized version of a Greek name (Plouton).


41 posted on 07/20/2008 1:19:40 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: MediaMole

If they find a giant hairball circling Uranus they can name that “allah.”


42 posted on 07/20/2008 1:50:33 PM PDT by TigersEye (Drill or get off the Hill. ... call Nancy Pelosi @ 202 - 225 - 0100)
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To: LucyT; SunkenCiv

thanks Lucy. Civ, they’ve found another one.


43 posted on 07/20/2008 6:48:34 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks; KevinDavis; annie laurie; garbageseeker; Knitting A Conundrum; Viking2002; ...
Thanks Fred. It was discovered 2005 Mar 31 but the name was just now accepted. :')
 
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44 posted on 07/21/2008 12:57:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

I wasn’t aware that we’ve ever had a Hurricane Jesus.


45 posted on 07/21/2008 1:04:00 PM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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