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VINCE FOSTER'S DEATH (15th anniversary on July 20)
boogieonline ^ | July 2008

Posted on 07/20/2008 7:42:23 PM PDT by doug from upland

Vince Foster's Death

In July 1993, Clinton aide Vince Foster was found dead in a Virginia park. The death was officially pronounced a suicide, but rumors abounded that Foster was murdered. Foster's death has ties to several White House scandals, including the administration's handling of "Travelgate," the Waco incident and the Whitewater affair.

The Whitewater Connection

Kenneth Starr, special counsel in charge of the Whitewater investigation, investigated Foster's death and what relationship it might have had with Whitewater.

In three articles in the Electronic Telegraph, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reported on the investigation and the possibility of a coverup. In March 20, 1995's "Doubts Linger Over Clinton Aide's 'Suicide'", Evans-Pritchard reported:

A series of U.S. media reports has stated that Kenneth Starr, the special counsel probing the Whitewater scandal over an unsuccessful Arkansas development company half-owned by Bill and Hillary Clinton, is wrapping up his probe of Foster's death. ... But ... if anything, he has been stepping up his investigation. He has called 11 witnesses before a federal grand jury in Washington, and has elicited testimony from three of them that suggests the body was moved and that the crime scene was tampered with in a police cover-up.

[Starr's] investigators are disturbed by conflicting testimony from witnesses about Foster's state of mind before his death. Key figures have changed their stories, raising suspicions that there may have been an orchestrated attempt after the fact to make it look as if Foster was in the grip of a deep depression.

There is no doubt that Foster was suffering a degree of depression. Lisa Foster told investigators that he was sleeping badly and suffering from a pounding heart. A week before his death he told his sister, Sheila Anthony, a top Justice Department official that he wanted to talk to a psychiatrist but needed assurances that nothing revealed in counselling sessions could be flushed out by subpoena at a later date.

A psychiatrist told the FBI that he was contacted on July 16 by Anthony, who explained that Foster was working on "Top Secret" issues at the White House and "that his depression was directly related to highly sensitive and confidential matters" (FBI file29D-LR-35063).

One of the suspicious circumstances around Foster's death is that White House staffers removed files from Foster's office on the night of his death. Files may have been related to the Whitewater affair, or to a NSA project Foster was working on, PROMIS software used to track international money flows.

Initial Whitewater investigator Robert Fiske issued a report ruling Foster's death a suicide. Nine days before the Senate Banking Committee held hearings on the death, Foster's family issued a statement endorsing the suicide verdict: "The family believe that questions as to how and why Vince died are now answered as best they can be. There is now no justification for painful, repetitious examination of these issues. The principal advocates for doing this appear chiefly motivated by mean-spirited partisanship."

However, the family did not write those words. Associate Attorney-General Sheila Anthony and her husband Beryl drafted the statement. Both are Democratic insiders with close Clinton ties.

In May 1, 1995's "White House aide was murdered, say experts," Evans-Pritchard details further evidence supporting the theory of murder and cover-up:

Vincent Foster, the deputy White House counsel, was probably murdered and his body carried into a park as part of a staged suicide, according to a team of independent crime-scene experts employed to investigate the death.

The private report is being taken extremely seriously by the official investigation of special counsel Kenneth Starr, according to sources close to the inquiry.

Foster was an intimate friend of Bill and Hillary Clinton and handled their personal financial affairs at the White House. The US Park Police concluded that he shot himself in the mouth on July 20, 1993. Two subsequent inquiries endorsed the suicide verdict, but Starr has reopened the investigation and has called witnesses for the first time before a federal grand jury.

At a press conference on Thursday one of the experts, retired New York Police detective Vincent Scalice, said that in almost 30 years of police work he could not recall "ever running across a situation where we found a body in a case of suicide that was so neatly arranged, with the gun so conveniently positioned in the hand in such a straight, orderly fashion".

The report said that the lack of blood on the front of the body was "inconsistent" with death by a gun shot through the mouth, raising the likelihood that Foster's heart had stopped before the gun was fired.

The report was commissioned by the Western Journalism Center, a California group that supports investigative journalism.

The experts said that Foster was supposed to have walked 700 feet through a park, yet there was no soil or grass on his shoes. There was also no blood splatter on the vegetation and ground.

In May 22, 1995's "Secret Swiss link to White House death," Evans-Pritchard details revelations that Foster made unusual trips to Switzerland.

Foster flew to Switzerland on November 1, 1991 -- during the early stages of Bill Clinton's presidential bid -- returning November 3, giving him just one day on the ground. A year later, he did the same thing, flying to Switzerland December 7, 1992, -- during Clinton's presidential transition period -- and returning December 9. On July 1, 1993, he purchased another ticket to Switzerland, but never went. He received a refund for the unused ticket on July 8. He died less than two weeks later.

The Switzerland trips were just some of Foster's frequent flying. At the time of his death he had acquired more than 500,000 freqent flyer miles.

The Waco Connection

Foster's widow blames his depression on the massacre of the Branch Davidians at Waco, Texas, according to the FBI. "Lisa Foster believes that Foster was horrified when the Branch Davidian complex burned. Foster believed that everything was his fault," the FBI wrote of their interview with Lisa Foster.

A strange form of support for that theory comes in the form of a car burglary. The July 14, 1995 News and Observer reported that White House lawyer Cheryl Mills had her car broken into after preparing for a Senate hearing on Whitewater. In addition to her wallet, the burglar stole a gym bag containing Mills' notes on the Foster affair and on Waco.

During the 1995 U.S. House hearings on Waco, Texas Rangers disclosed that when they were in dispute with the FBI about the destruction of evidence, someone in the Texas Governor's office gave them Vince Foster's phone number to contact. The hearings revealed that the only document found in Foster's Waco file was a memorandum that Foster was forwarding "Waco, the Big Lie" (a videotape charging government conspiracy) to to the Treasury Department.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: anniversary; clintonlegacy; foster; ftmarcypark; hillary; vincefoster
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1 posted on 07/20/2008 7:42:23 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: All

What an anniversary weekend -— walking on the moon, drunken senator leaving a woman to die, and Foster.


2 posted on 07/20/2008 7:44:36 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: justiceseeker93

ping


3 posted on 07/20/2008 7:45:24 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: doug from upland

Where is Craig Livingstone today?


4 posted on 07/20/2008 7:47:05 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: doug from upland

No one will ever convince me that this unfortunate man was not murdered ~ and who I believe was behind it, was not.


5 posted on 07/20/2008 7:47:16 PM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett ("Some people are alive only because it is illegal to kill them.")
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To: doug from upland

I think a lot of suspicious and probably criminal activity took place after he died, but I honestly cannot say that the Clintons, as much as I loathe the Clintons, had anything to do with it.


6 posted on 07/20/2008 7:48:48 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: doug from upland; All
Hillary "I see dead people."

Hillary Pantsuit Lie

7 posted on 07/20/2008 7:50:28 PM PDT by musicman
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To: doug from upland; justiceseeker93

As I was mentioning to justiceseeker, this “death” occurred barely 24 hours after FBI Director William Sessions was fired. Sessions was more than likely going to start targeting the corruption in the barely 6-month old Clintoon administration and had to go (and we certainly remember how well his successor, Louis Freeh, was at going after corruption. Less than useless).


8 posted on 07/20/2008 7:53:20 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: doug from upland
Happy Anniversary, Doug!

My, how time flies when you're having fun, becoming a senator, running for office and shaking down constituents for cash!
10 posted on 07/20/2008 8:01:45 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: doug from upland

Vince Foster ended up like the rest of the people on this list that knew too much about the Clinton crimes and corruption. There are just TOO MANY of them to be anything but something other than a coincidence. Let’s keep it real.

And don’t forget about the FBI files, which I am sure that copies of exist today well tucked away as “protection”. Just too many “unexplained” situations like why NOBODY on the right said a word about Jamie Gorelick being put on the so-called “9/11 Investigation Committee”. She alone, if she had been able to have been put under oath, could have put enough dirt on the Clinton administration relative to obstruction of inter-agency communication and interation, which helped the suppression of vital information which COULD HAVE helped to prevent the 9/11 disaster. The list of malfeasance just goes on, on and on....

http://www.lizmichael.com/clintond.htm


11 posted on 07/20/2008 8:04:19 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Perdogg

If you had a theory as to who killed Foster, who would you say did it?

I have an inclination that it was an overzealous junior staffer who over-heard Hillary, Bill, etc, talking about how they were concerned that Foster was gonna start blabbing if he was subpoenaed.

This junior staffer, convinced the US could not possibly survive without the Clintons in office, decides he’s gonna have Foster killed.

He goes ahead with the plan. It catches the Clintons off-guard leading to their late night removal of documents from Foster’s office.

What I’ve never been able to figure out is why everyone (from the Park Police all the way to Ken Starr) continues to repeat “It was just a suicide”.

I’m nor forensic investigator - but from what I’ve read, it certainly didn’t sound like a suicide to me.


12 posted on 07/20/2008 8:07:36 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: doug from upland

Prayers for the soul of Vince Foster.


13 posted on 07/20/2008 8:11:16 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: doug from upland

Thanks Doug. Is there a full moon?


14 posted on 07/20/2008 8:20:00 PM PDT by RDTF (my worst nightmare is being on jury duty sequestered with 11 liberals)
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To: MplsSteve

There’s no way a junior staffer could possibly have carried out a “hit” of this magnitude on the spur of the moment.
Looking at all the people who wound up dead that had knowledge of the clinton’s there had to be a professional hit team in the shadows.
That doesn’t mean the clinton’s targeted anuyone for death, all they had to do was indicate something about a particular person and the team would know exactly what to do.
From the evidence Foster’s clothes were covered in carpet fibers as if he rolled around on a carpet or was rolled up in a carpet and carried out of the White House before being placed in Fort Marcy Park.
The hit on Jery Parks is one such example. As is the death of Ron Brown. There was also a secretary in I think his office that was found dead under very strange circumstances. She knew too much and had to go.
Has there ever been so many deaths surrounding a President?
I think bill was the head of the dixie mafia which carried out the hits to protect the “don”.


15 posted on 07/20/2008 8:24:09 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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17 posted on 07/20/2008 8:45:22 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: doug from upland

wow, I almost forgot the date. This story holds a special place for me, I played Quake1 ctf for years as
Vince Foster 187 (187 being the police code for homicide).
I remember one night a fellow quaker asked, “hey, isnt that the guy the Clinton’s fragged?” I sure miss Quake :( Someday I’ll have to take a poll of freepers who are former Quake players.


18 posted on 07/20/2008 8:47:07 PM PDT by isom35
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To: doug from upland

Ah ha!


19 posted on 07/20/2008 8:47:24 PM PDT by RDTF (my worst nightmare is being on jury duty sequestered with 11 liberals)
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To: doug from upland

This is the most plausible explanation I’ve read about why Vincent Foster met his untimely end:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/FOSTER_COVERUP/trust.html


20 posted on 07/20/2008 8:51:12 PM PDT by devere
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To: doug from upland

hey Doug whatever became of Allan Favish? wasnt he trying to get some Foster photos and or documents over the years? And whatever happened to Hugh Sprunt?


21 posted on 07/20/2008 8:54:05 PM PDT by isom35
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To: doug from upland
For the uninitiated, I'll point out a few useful keywords ...
PROMIS (PROsecutor Management Information System)
Systematics
Dr. J. Orlin Grabbe
Charles Hayes (aka The Angel of Death)
Danny Casalaro
Jim Keith (author of the Octopus : The Danny Casalaro story)
Botched autopsy
X-Ray machine of Forensic Dr. known for work with intel claimed to be unavailable due to malfunction, yet no service records of any maintenance
Confidential Witness
Hugh Sprunt (national hero)
Inslaw
Michael Riconosciuto
Alan Favish (another national hero)
Jerry Parks
Webb Hubbel
Castle Grande
Cocaine
Seth Ward (Father in law of Webb Hubbel)
Park-o-Meter or Park-on-Meter
Terry Reed (good guy)
L.D. Brown (good guy)
Barry Adler Seal
BCCI
Mena,Arkansas
Maggie Williams
Craig Livinston
Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
Chris Ruddy
Buddy Young (mini resume - not making this up: Rodeo Clown => Law Enforcement in Ark: I think state trooper => Regional Director of FEMA during 42's administration)
Dan Lasater
Rose Law Firm
Fort Marcy Park
Claim of two gun shots
Patrick Knowlton
Michael Rodriguez
Ken Starr
Robert Fiske
AIM.org (Accuracy in Media)
42's knowledge of events prior to discovery while getting makeup for appearance on Larry King's show
Roger Perry
Larry Thompson
Helen Dickey
Bernard Nussbaum
Congressman Dan Burton
Reginald Alton
Switzerland - Billions

Google all of those topics, the you'll get the picture. This all ties into The Octopus (aka Danny Casalaro's story).
22 posted on 07/20/2008 8:54:39 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: doug from upland
I had the sad duty of putting down a large dog that had been hit by a car. A single 9mm (~38caliber) round to the back of the head produced a huge volume of blood (the heart was still pumping) -- from every cranial opening.... Total blood volume was over a quart.

Based on photos and descriptions of the Ft. Marcy park scene, there is no way that Foster could have shot himself in the mouth -- and especially not at that location.

Foster's heart must have already been stopped when the .38 cal shot inside his mouth was inflicted. His white shirt and his "firing" hand were spotless -- and there was no pooled blood at the FMP scene.

"Self-inflicted gunshot wound to the roof of the mouth -- in Fort Marcy Park"? No way!

23 posted on 07/20/2008 8:56:17 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: tang-soo

Not Barry Adler Seal. It’s Adler Barriman Seal.


24 posted on 07/20/2008 8:57:41 PM PDT by Publius (Another Republican for Obama -- NOT!!)
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To: doug from upland
What an anniversary weekend -— walking on the moon, drunken senator leaving a woman to die, and Foster.

and all on my birthday. First man on the moon on my 15th and Foster shot on my 39th. I wasn't aware that the Ted Kennedy manslaughter case was also on that day.

25 posted on 07/20/2008 9:00:13 PM PDT by upsdriver
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To: Publius

Thanks for correction - going mostly from memory.


26 posted on 07/20/2008 9:00:28 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: tang-soo

There’s a name missing. He was a prominent Democratic fundraiser with a palatial home on Maryland’s Eastern Shore. (I’ve forgotten his name after all these years.) The Sunday before Foster died, he attended a meeting at that home with George Stephanapolous and a few others. Foster was frantic because his Swiss bank account had been drained, and he’d received an anonymous note telling him that the contents were now the property of the US Treasury. This is where Charlie Hayes, PROMIS and a rogue element within the CIA get involved. The issue that caused Foster’s terror was the source of that money — Mena.


27 posted on 07/20/2008 9:07:50 PM PDT by Publius (Another Republican for Obama -- NOT!!)
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To: Publius

You are absolutely correct. I spent 10 minutes on google trying to find his name but could not find it. He was supposed to have hosted a breachfront lunch with VF and Webb Hubbel the weekend before VF died.


28 posted on 07/20/2008 9:14:02 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: doug from upland; justiceseeker93

Doug, bless you for remembering.

I’m sure JS93 appreciates you remembering also.

No question that Vince Foster was murdered, ever, in my mind.

All of the investigative reporters in the country, and none was curious about what happened, even when the facts never added up.

Seven and a half years more of Bubba’s and Her Heinous and their cohorts and their shenanigans would follow.

And this was only the beginning.


29 posted on 07/20/2008 9:17:09 PM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve--and they are about to get it --in spades.)
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To: doug from upland

WOW..15 years since the Clintons killed Vince,,,,my how time flies!


30 posted on 07/20/2008 9:18:46 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: isom35

Favish actually made arguments before the Supremen Court about the case under the FOIA.


31 posted on 07/20/2008 9:23:39 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: samadams2000

Where has anyone said the clinton’s killed Foster?


32 posted on 07/20/2008 9:26:24 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: doug from upland

I don’t know whether he killed himself or not, but I find it hard to believe he went to Fort Marcy Park to do so. Why bother?


33 posted on 07/20/2008 9:30:09 PM PDT by FlyVet (Reid makes us sick. Pelosi makes us sick.)
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To: Publius

Found it - Nathan Landow.


34 posted on 07/20/2008 9:32:18 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: tang-soo

Thank you. I’m getting old.


35 posted on 07/20/2008 9:33:09 PM PDT by Publius (Another Republican for Obama -- NOT!!)
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To: doug from upland

NOTE: I made several calls to D’Amato’s office to tell them that Helen Dickey was lying when she said she learned of Foster’s death at around 10pm. I told them that the troopers were ready to testify to contradict her. D’Amato would have none of it. I think he publicly claimed that they didn’t want to testify. The last call was when I was yelling at them that D’Amato was covering it up and they hung up on me. I don’t go so far to say that he was murdered, but I do believe his body was moved to the park so the Park Police would handle it. The FBI would have immediately sealed his office and prevented the raids by Bernie Nussbaum, Susan Thomases, and Maggie Williams. They took the Whitewater files (Vince was their personal atty) and the tainted blood info. They took his computer. I think it was Gary Aldrich who told me that the computer was ultimately found being used by another govt worker. It had a brand new hard drive.


AFFIDAVIT

State of Arkansas }
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County of Pulaski }

On this day comes before me, a Notary Public, authorized to administer oaths, in and for the County of Pulaski, State of Arkansas, Roger Perry to me well known, who being first duly sworn, says, upon oath:

On the 20th day of July, 1993, I received a telephone call from a person known to me as Helen Dickey. I was working on the security detail at the Arkansas Governor’s mansion in Little Rock, Arkansas at that time. Dickey advised me that Vincent Foster, well known to me, had gotten off work and had gone out to his car in the parking lot and had shot himself in the head. I do not recall the exact time of this telephone call but am fairly certain it was some time from about 4:30 p.m. to no later than 7:00 p.m.

Dickey had previously been employed as a baby-sitter for Governor Clinton’s child and at the time of the call she was working at the White House in Washington, D.C. I then passed the message on to Governor Jim Guy Tucker through his wife.

During my tenure at the Governor’s Mansion I received a number of calls from Jennifer Flowers to Governor Clinton.

I have been told by Danny Furgeson, another trooper who was working security detail at the time, at the Governor’s Mansion, that he had talked with a young lady named Paula during a conferenec at the Excelsior Hotel and that he had taken her up to a room in that hotel at the direct request of then Governor Clinton. Danny has also stated that he talked with [P]aula at a restaurant in Little Rock during a chance meeting shortly before she filed her suit. He told her then, according to his conversation with me, that he would testify on her behalf if she did file suit against Clinton. I have read Danny’s answer to her suit and [see] that he admitted taking Paula up to Clinton’s room on that occasion.


Larry Patterson Affidavit. Click for full size picture.(104.1K)

AFFIDAVIT

State of Arkansas }
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County of Pulaski }

On this day comes before me, a Notary Public, authorized to administer oaths, in and for the County of Pulaski, State of Arkansas, Larry Patterson to me well known, who being first duly sworn, says, upon oath:

I received a telephone call from Roger Perry on the 20th day of July, 1993. Roger was working security detail at the Arkansas Governor’s Mansion in Little Rock. He advised
me that a lady known to both of us as Helen Dickey had telephonically [contacted] him and advised him that Vincent Foster, well known to both of us because of his relationship with Hillary Clinton and his being an advisor to Governor Bill Clinton had gotten off work and had gone out to his car in the parking lot and had shot himself in the head. I do not recall the exact time of this telephone call but am fairly certain it was sometime before 6:00 p.m.
on that date.

Dickey was employed as a baby-sitter by Governor and Hillary Clinton while in Arkansas and at the time of the call she was working at the White House in Washington,
D.C.

I have been asked, under oath, whether Bill Clinton ever had extramarital affairs while he was Governor of Arkansas. I have replied that I knew Jennifer Flowers, who has said
she had an affair with Governor Clinton. I took him, on occasions to the Quapaw Towers, where she lived, and where he would meet with her. I have taken him to see other [females] with whom he had personal relationships, including one he met during the night at Chelsea Clinton’s schoolyard. I worked with Danny Furgeson, another trooper who was working security detail at the Governor’s Mansion. Danny told me that he had talked with a young lady named Paula Jones during a meeting at the Excelsior Hotel in Little Rock. He told me he had taken her up to a room in that Hotel after having been asked to by then Governor Bill Clinton. On one occasion I was with Governor Clinton when we met Paula Jones in the rotunda at the State Capital. The Governor referred to her as Paula as they hugged. Danny has also told me that he talked with Paula as a restaurant in Little Rock in the summer of 1994. At that time, Paula told Danny that she had learned she had been [mentioned] in a [negative] article about Bill Clinton. He told her then, according to his conversation with me, that he would testify in her behalf if she did file suit against Clinton.
I have read Danny’s answer to her suit and see that he admitted taking Paula up to Clinton’s room on that occasion. That agrees with what I kn[o]w about that situation.


Lynn Davis Affidavit. Click for full size picture.(82.8K)

(text portion only)

This is to certify that on the 20th day of July, 1993, I
received a telephone call from Roger Perry, of the Arkansas
State Police, who was a member of the Arkansas Governor’s
security detail.

Perry advised me that he had just received a telephone
call from one Helen Dickey, a [former] baby-sitter for Chelsea Clinton, who was employed at the White House and that she had advised him that Vincent Foster, known to both Perry and me, and gone to his car in the Parking Lot and had shot himself in the head.

I do not recall the exact time of the call, but I [place]
it as being during the rush hour at the White House and
[assumed] there must be many witnesses to the event. Perry
advised me that Helen Dickey was quite upset as if the event had happened shortly beforre her call to him. I estimate the time is being no later that six o’clock, Central Standard Time.

Perry advised me that he had telephonically contacted
Betty Tucker who had relayed the message to Governor Jim Guy
Tucker.


36 posted on 07/20/2008 9:35:19 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: tang-soo

Landow was accused of being involved in trying to convince Kathleen Willey not to testify in the Jones case.


37 posted on 07/20/2008 9:37:10 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: exit82

Justiceseeker93 sent me an email. He gets the credit for remembering.


38 posted on 07/20/2008 9:38:12 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: doug from upland; justiceseeker93
Justiceseeker93 sent me an email. He gets the credit for remembering.

Well, bless you anyway, FRiend!

Let's hope the truth comes out someday about Vince Foster's death. The truth is probably stranger than any of us realizes.

39 posted on 07/20/2008 9:56:57 PM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve--and they are about to get it --in spades.)
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To: MplsSteve

You want a plausible?... Vince was murdered by a female Chinese agent doing the clintons a favor. A small caliber, subsonic behind the ear sitting in her car, then the large caliber in the mouth to make it ‘show well’ in crime scene photos where he was placed in the park.


40 posted on 07/20/2008 10:00:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: doug from upland
Skip to comments.(reprise) DFU SONG: Battle of New Orleans (the Vince Foster body moving anniversary song)
DFU SONGS | 7-2006 | Lyrics, Doug from Upland

Posted on 07/20/2006 4:07:29 PM PDT by doug from upland

I met Patrick Knowlton. He was one of the keys to the case. How Vince got to the park has still never been solved. Trooper Roger Perry was on duty at the Governor's Mansion in Arkansas when he received the phone call from Helen Dickey (Chelsea's nanny). That call was at about the time the body was found. Clinton claims he found out a couple hours later when he was on Larry King. Dickey lied in her testimony to D'Amato's committee and claimed she learned about the death hours later. Perry and Larry Patterson wanted to testify but D'Amato refused to call them. Had they testified, that would have ended the Clinton presidency.

MIDI - BATTLE OF NEW ORLEANS

I'm stuck in traffic and really had to pee
And can't believe this kind of thing is happenin' to me
I'm lookin' for a restroom but there isn't one to find
So I know that trouble's brewin' and I'm really in a bind

I tensed all up but I knew I wouldn't make it
That mean old Mother Nature is the one I've often cursed
I'd hold my breath but knew I couldn't fake it
If I'm not pullin' over soon my bladder's gonna burst

A mile down the road I think I might a seen a sign
And I think it said McDonalds and to me that's mighty fine
I'm shakin' all over, people thought it was a dance
But there's no way in Hades that I wanna mess my pants

I tensed all up but I knew I wouldn't make it
That mean old Mother Nature is the one I've often cursed
I'd hold my breath but knew I couldn't fake it
If I'm not pullin' over soon my bladder's gonna burst

The pain was growin' so I'm pullin' over quick
I just gotta find a place because I think I'm gettin' sick
I saw "Ft. Marcy" and I started yelling "hark!"
There will be a tree and I will just go tinkle in the park

I tensed all up but I knew I wouldn't make it
That mean old Mother Nature is the one I've often cursed
I'd hold my breath but knew I couldn't fake it
If I'm not pullin' over soon my bladder's gonna burst

Well, I jump from my car but there's some fella watchin'
He's glarin', I know that he's as mean as he could be
I quickly walk to a tree by a cannon
I didn't want no trouble I just had to take a pee

I'm zippin' my zipper and I'm getting' in my car
But the thug is there, I'm wonderin' if I'll be gettin' far
I saw two cars that later I was able to describe
I'd tell the truth, I'd tell it straight and never take a bribe

I tensed all up but I knew I wouldn't make it
And mean old Mother Nature is the one I've often cursed
I'd hold my breath but knew I couldn't fake it
If I'm not pullin' over soon my bladder's gonna burst

Then harassment was startin' by some guys a packin'
They were watchin', they're bumpin' me wherever I would go
'Cause that's the time that they dumped poor ol' Foster
Those guys had done him in that day, I didn't even know

41 posted on 07/20/2008 10:05:37 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: doug from upland

BM


42 posted on 07/20/2008 10:13:14 PM PDT by scott7278 ("Before I give you the benefit of my reply, I would like to know what we are talking about.")
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To: doug from upland

I was at the MFJ after event function and asked one of the forum participants about the Harold Ickes connection to the Clintons and by whom Ickes was being paid. I remember being quite surprised that the guy’s attorney interrupted and did not want his client to answer my question. I found that to be very strange.


43 posted on 07/20/2008 10:17:54 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: tang-soo

You left off Harold Ickes.


44 posted on 07/20/2008 10:20:37 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: doug from upland

I was pretty naive about conspiracy theories until Foster’s death. Since then I have become a huge believer in the JFK murder conspiracy and others. If the klintons could cover up a murder of Foster so blatantly then obviously others could have done it as well. Of course the klintons are extraordinary liars and manipulators.


45 posted on 07/20/2008 10:29:03 PM PDT by strongbow
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To: SeaHawkFan

Ickes is a very dangerous person.


46 posted on 07/20/2008 10:32:35 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: doug from upland

BTW, Doug, thank you for remembering this calendar date in our nation’s shameful past. God help us if the clinton crime family ever gets back into such high office, they will never give it back to a free Republic.


47 posted on 07/20/2008 10:53:06 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Mocking the Chappaquiddick Lifeguard on this weekend - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMqOe5iBQEI

Mocking him in opera - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MZQl_HwMYA


48 posted on 07/20/2008 11:49:37 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: doug from upland

bump to read about this unsolved murder later


49 posted on 07/21/2008 12:07:45 AM PDT by TigersEye (Drill or get off the Hill. ... call Nancy Pelosi @ 202 - 225 - 0100)
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To: doug from upland

I think Ickes’ mob ties had something to do with Foster’s murder.


50 posted on 07/21/2008 4:49:12 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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