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Dobson Leans Toward Endorsing McCain
nyt ^ | July 20, 2008 | Kate Phillips

Posted on 07/20/2008 8:24:15 PM PDT by Red Steel

There seems to be a kumbaya moment occurring on the conservative front, and it’s one that would apply a salve to Senator John McCain’s uneven, unsettled relationship with the religious right.

Enter James Dobson, who has at times been blistering in his criticisms of Mr. McCain. The religious right’s more favored candidates — from former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee to even former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson — are no longer options.


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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008endorsements; conservatives; dobson; elections; endorsements; fotf; mccain; prolifevote; rino; socialconservatives
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1 posted on 07/20/2008 8:24:15 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Thank you, Obama.


2 posted on 07/20/2008 8:26:48 PM PDT by littlehouse36 (If it's in the Yellow Pages, the government shouldn't do it.)
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To: littlehouse36

Dobson is getting a good look at Obama.


3 posted on 07/20/2008 8:28:22 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Anything else would be VERY stupid on Dobson’s part.


4 posted on 07/20/2008 8:29:33 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Red Steel

Dobson accuses Obama of ‘distorting’ Bible

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080624/D91G51AG0.html


5 posted on 07/20/2008 8:31:15 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle

That was an excelent radio show when they took on line-by-line what Obama said about the Bible.


6 posted on 07/20/2008 8:34:16 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule (I knew there was a reason I supported Phil Gramm in 1996!!!!)
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To: Red Steel
No offense to his fans hereabouts, but I see Mister Dobson as a powermanic, self-serving creep.
7 posted on 07/20/2008 8:39:03 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Red Steel

I can’t stand McCain. I am voting against Obama AKA Jimmy Carter jr.


8 posted on 07/20/2008 8:41:12 PM PDT by Rosemont ($4+ for gas. Can we drill now?)
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To: Red Steel

Obama has the ability to make McCain look like a favorable choice.


9 posted on 07/20/2008 8:44:14 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Don't blame me, I supported Duncan Hunter.)
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Don’t do it, Dr. Dobson.

The lesser of two evils is still evil. Don’t harm your stature by endorsing evil.


10 posted on 07/20/2008 8:45:28 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Don't worry about saving the Earth. The Earth will do just fine. Save yourselves.)
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To: Rosemont
Yeah, you're right. If a McCain presidency is Bush's third term, then Obama is Jimmy Carter's second.
11 posted on 07/20/2008 8:46:32 PM PDT by fwdude (If marriage can mean anything, then marriage means nothing.)
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To: Seaplaner
No offense to his fans hereabouts, but I see Mister Dobson as a powermanic, self-serving creep.

Don't sugar coat it.

I love this. Dobson may flip flop.

He must be very concerned that he won't have a place at the table if he doesn't get on board.

Frankly, I believe McCain has already written him off and doesn't want or need him.

12 posted on 07/20/2008 8:47:01 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: Pinkbell
Hitler had the same effect for Stalin in World War II.
13 posted on 07/20/2008 8:47:33 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Don't worry about saving the Earth. The Earth will do just fine. Save yourselves.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Don’t do it, Dr. Dobson. The lesser of two evils is still evil. Don’t harm your stature by endorsing evil.

Dobson must be getting scared of being left out.

Nothing like a guy who has rock solid core values and stays true to his word.

14 posted on 07/20/2008 8:49:03 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: Red Steel
One uber-ego believing the world is just waiting to hear if he endorses a similarly massive ego. I, for one, couldn't care less.
15 posted on 07/20/2008 8:49:13 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Red Steel

Reality was bound to set in sooner or later...


16 posted on 07/20/2008 8:50:36 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Rosemont

Kerry was a BAD choice for America. Obama is a DANGEROUS choice.


17 posted on 07/20/2008 8:50:53 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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To: Red Steel

If Dobson had endorsed Thompson at the critical moment, he wouldn’t be in this embarrassing position now. But, no, he had to go with that snake oil salesman Huckabee, splitting conservative voters at the critical moment just before the Florida primary, and letting McCain in to fill the gap.

I said at the time that I thought that conservative Evangelicals would see through Huckabee, but not soon enough to do much good. And that was what happened. Huckabee guarded McCain’s flank against Thompson, and Dobson unwittingly helped him do it.

Arrgh.


18 posted on 07/20/2008 8:51:39 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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No way! If this is the conservative front then conservatives are in worse shape than I thought.


19 posted on 07/20/2008 8:53:00 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: Red Steel

Looks like Dobson must’ve had a divine revelation.


20 posted on 07/20/2008 8:54:08 PM PDT by Reagan Man ( McCain Wants My Conservative Vote in November --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: fwdude
If a McCain presidency is Bush's third term, then Obama is Jimmy Carter's second.

Or George McGovern's first.

21 posted on 07/20/2008 8:54:12 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: joesbucks
Frankly, I believe McCain has already written him off and doesn't want or need him.

Frankly, I don't care what McCain does. I wrote him off a long time ago. Let the Democrats have him, that's who he is appealing to.

22 posted on 07/20/2008 8:54:12 PM PDT by upsdriver
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To: joesbucks

I think a LOT of us, not just Dobson, have become more and more terrified, actually, of what an Obama presidency might mean. Virtually every position that man takes is directly opposite of what I believe, and the fact that he has the MSM in his back pocket is alarming. There is no limit to the damage he could do in just four years, damage that would not be easily undone. I support McCain after opposing him initially, and in no way am I a flip-flopper.


23 posted on 07/20/2008 8:56:24 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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To: Red Steel
This is what McCain was expecting even as he reaches out to the independents and moderates. He expected the conservatives would come running back to him after they saw the alternative.

McCain has not changed, but he is definitley the lesser of two evils and he knows it. So there was no reason for him to suck up to the conservatives.

24 posted on 07/20/2008 8:57:13 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: CounterCounterCulture

“The lesser of two evils is still evil. Don’t harm your stature by endorsing evil.”

I’m not even sure if Obama is truly evil. I don’t think it’s good to dillute the meaning of the word.


25 posted on 07/20/2008 8:57:13 PM PDT by willk
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To: joesbucks
Don't sugar coat it.

Well, I do that out of respect for the FR folks here who might like the guy.

Personally, I'm with you.

There is absolutely no way that the nomination of my party's candidate, or any part of a national election should have to go through a radio deacon in Colo Springs.

26 posted on 07/20/2008 8:57:50 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Red Steel

Here’s why:

Obama...
Voted twice against BAIPA
Singlehandedly blocked it in committee
Voted against blocking porn from school & library computers
Voted agasint barring early release for criminal sex offenders
Voted agaisnt a human cloning ban - and then for it
Supports repeal of DOMA
Openly supports homosexual marriage
Supports sex-ed for kindergarteners
Supports the rabid pro-abort “freedom of choice” act
Voted against keeping adult stores from within so much of schools & churches
Wright, Ayers, Farrakhan & Phleger


27 posted on 07/20/2008 8:57:59 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Red Steel
I can hear it now, off in the not to distant future...

"I respect Senator Obama's religious beliefs and Dr. Dobson doesn't speak for me"- John McCain

28 posted on 07/20/2008 8:58:12 PM PDT by TADSLOS (43 Days and a Wakeup for the GOP to use the Nuclear Option.)
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To: Seaplaner

You are so dead wrong in your assessment of Dobson! I take much offense at your remark!


29 posted on 07/20/2008 8:59:34 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: TitansAFC; meandog; onyx; MARTIAL MONK; GulfBreeze; Kuksool; freespirited; Salvation; furquhart; ...
The McCain List.

30 posted on 07/20/2008 9:00:17 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

Obama’s uber-pro-abortion stance, his termination of abortion-surviving babies, and his ludicrous claim that the Sermon on the Mount gives a “thumbs-up” to gay marriage ought to be enough for any evangelical to steer way clear of him.


31 posted on 07/20/2008 9:07:27 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: TADSLOS

Unfortunately, you’re probably correct.


32 posted on 07/20/2008 9:08:36 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle

anti-DOMA too


33 posted on 07/20/2008 9:09:32 PM PDT by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nilhilism)
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To: Red Steel

Jim, this is no time to go wobbly.

As for me, I won’t be going wobbly on McCain—he still won’t be getting my vote.

I don’t vote for pushers of amnesty or global warming, regardless of what letter comes after their name.


34 posted on 07/20/2008 9:10:25 PM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve--and they are about to get it --in spades.)
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To: Fred

Exactly. This clown Obama has so many agendas it’s hard to keep up. Except that most of them subvert traditional American values.


35 posted on 07/20/2008 9:10:36 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: rawhide
Respectfully, we disagree.
36 posted on 07/20/2008 9:10:37 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Seaplaner

Agreed. Been pissed at him since he played hardball with House Leadership ten years ago. Remind me why he and Tony Perkins and others are allowed to hold this party hostage?


37 posted on 07/20/2008 9:12:51 PM PDT by MeanMachine
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To: Seaplaner
No offense to his fans hereabouts, but I see Mister Dobson as a powermanic, self-serving creep.

If it is true that you meant no offense, then why say what you said? I believe you did mean to offend.

38 posted on 07/20/2008 9:15:25 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide
Rawhide my FRiend, I mean to persuade and inform, not to offend.

I'm interested in your opinion, and will not criticize.

39 posted on 07/20/2008 9:18:31 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Red Steel

Dobson could do the courageous thing and endorse Chuck Baldwin or Alan Keyes, both solid Christians with constitutional platforms. However, like many of our national Christian leaders, Dobson seems to embrace unBiblical pragmatism when it comes to endorsing politicians.


40 posted on 07/20/2008 9:22:24 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Cicero
If Dobson had endorsed Thompson at the critical moment, he wouldn’t be in this embarrassing position now. But, no, he had to go with that snake oil salesman Huckabee, splitting conservative voters at the critical moment just before the Florida primary, and letting McCain in to fill the gap.

Amen! Dobson's stubborn, constipated manipulation denied us the better candidate.

41 posted on 07/20/2008 9:25:13 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Alaska has the oil. The Senate has the dipsticks.)
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To: SecAmndmt

Baldwin is anti war, a 9/11 Truther like Michael Moore and some of his sites and links head into anti Catholic comments and sites.

Keyes is would to tight and couldn’t even win the senate seat in Ill.


42 posted on 07/20/2008 9:30:17 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: Seaplaner

Why do you even bother typing that? “No offense to his fans hereabouts.” Right.

Tell me two things you know about Dr. Dobson (note that he has earned a Ph.D., something of which you are clearly ignorant).

I just tire of FReepers who hate those who follow Christ simply because they follow Christ. You tire me, Seaplaner.


43 posted on 07/20/2008 9:40:54 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Prokopton

If you “couldn’t care less,” why bother leaving a comment?

Does Dr. Dobson as an “uber-ego”? What do you know about him, besides the fact that anti-Christians hate the man? Do you hate all high-profile Christians?


44 posted on 07/20/2008 9:43:09 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Red Steel

I guess we can now say:

White Evangelicals are to Republicans what Blacks are to Democrats


45 posted on 07/20/2008 9:44:40 PM PDT by Keyes2000mt (Conservative Podcast: The Truth and Hope (http://www.truthandhope.2truth.com))
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To: Seaplaner

You’re right. Christians should just shut up and not let their opinions be known. Keep ‘em closed up in the basement. Right?

Why so antagonistic toward this Christian man who wants to express his opinion? Do you hate Christians? Do you hate God? Or only Christian leaders? Or have you simply bought into the liberal media’s smearing of this fine Christian man?


46 posted on 07/20/2008 9:45:53 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Seaplaner
I mean to persuade and inform

Bull. You're a disrupter. You're a phony. Go to DU. You'll be welcomed there.

Yes, I'm being ungracious toward you. I just get so tired of the anti-Christian rhetoric on FR, a place that used to be frequented by decent people and that has become infiltrated by sophomores like you.

47 posted on 07/20/2008 9:49:12 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Albion Wilde
Dobson's stubborn, constipated manipulation denied us the better candidate

You really believe Dr. Dobson has that much power?

If not, why did you write that? If so, why not see him as an ally?

48 posted on 07/20/2008 9:51:10 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: SoCalPol

Baldwin may be anti-Iraq war, but he is not a liberal opponent of the war, and he is solid on the Constitution. Please provide a citation for the claim that he is “a 9-11 truther like Michael Moore”. That seems to be a pretty outrageous claim.

The best candidates will NEVER win so long as we accept the premise that one of the media anointed liberals must be selected. Dobson, supposedly a leader and not a blind follower of the media, is only reinforcing his irrelevancy by endorsing a far left liberal like McCain.


49 posted on 07/20/2008 9:53:02 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Theo

Dobson and his comrades are knuckleheads if they think they can ignore the electoral needs of the Party and then see a dime of federal money coming into their “faith based” programs.


50 posted on 07/20/2008 10:01:07 PM PDT by Johnfloyd6675
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