Posted on 07/20/2008 8:32:55 PM PDT by kristinn
"Yep, the way it's looking, we might actually win this thing . . ."
That's Markos Moulitsas talking, a.k.a. "Kos" to everyone here at Netroots Nation, the four-day liberal blogapalooza that ended Sunday at the Austin Convention Center. He's got a head cold, which explains his hoarse, strained voice, and by "we," he means the Netroots and their candidate of choice, Sen. Barack Obama. If the Netroots can be compared to high school -- still maturing, somewhat cliquish but definitely a community -- then Obama, as the presumptive nominee, had been voted Most Likely to Succeed.
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With the Dems taking back Congress in 2006 and the prospect of an Obama victory come November, many liberals are left in a precarious, ambiguous position. They remain influential, no doubt. The question is, who needs whom: Does Obama need the Netroots, or vice versa?
Kos, never one to mince words, is blunt.
"It's not a question of who needs whom. Fact is, the Netroots are not going to be the decisive factor," Kos says, fidgeting with his iPhone as he sits on a lounge chair at the Hilton, across the street from the convention center. "But having said that, we're an activist set of people: We're engaged, we give money, we put boots on the ground. That's why when many of us had a genuine disagreement with Obama on FISA" -- Obama voted for a bill that provided retroactive immunity to telecom companies -- "we let him know about it."
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As in any community, as in many high schools, Netroots can appear both self-segregating -- black bloggers at one table, Latinos at another and gays at the next -- and not diverse enough.
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"The Netroots are not going away. It's only going to get bigger," Guzman continues.
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(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
A couple of years ago this convention was on c-span. I geuss we were sparred that this year. Thank God.
Wow. Not exactly modest, are they?
Well, the race isn’t over until all the votes are counted. And all military personnel voting absentee had better be counted this time!
Have they noticed that Obama never did get a bump when Hillary stepped aside and that Obama has dropped seven (7) points in the polls since then?
Shhhhhhhh don’t tell them if they don’t already know. Most of all, is it me or are we having a lot of “Deja Vu” moments lately? I’m thinking the summer of 2004?
Well, let's see, hubris = pride, and pride cometh before the Autumn, er, fall. Whatever.
That's counting your chickens before Rev. Wright has come home to roost (in the fall).
Hopefully it'll breed complacence. ....especially on election day.
Captain Queeg and the RNC are too chicken to talk about “Reverend” Wright. Or Hussein Obama’s Muslim ties. Or that he’s the most liberal member of the Senate. Or that he wants to raise taxes, confiscate guns, bring back the Fairness Doctrine... Our guys are chickensh*t and thats why Hussein Obama is getting a free ride. They aren’t even trying.
Their victory is America’s defeat.
Well, that and the fact that I read the piece in The New Yorker on Obama - and you know he's a) made enemies and b) made alliances with very corrupt Illinois machine folks - and it's going to come back to bite him. Hopefully in time.
Some seem to think this election is all but over..Can you imagine their reaction should McCain be able to pull this off?
I think the left will crumble if he does it, they’re so sure this one is the bag.
The press will keep talking, talking, talking like this, and then when he loses by the wide margin i believe he’s going to lose by, all hell will break loose and it will be just fabulous for the press.
Yep....
pride before the fall . . . :)
We have nothing to worry about as long as Obama's lips keep moving.
That is just nonsense and wishful thinking (I wish it were true). Unfortunately, Obama has lead solidly over McCain by large margins in every PA poll taken since May. At least so far there is no indication that what you are saying is true against McCain. It may have been true against Hillary.
I am sooo going to enjoy the “Sorry World, We Tried!” photos in November! Remember this?
http://sorryeverybody.com/
“Our guys are chickensh*t and thats why Hussein Obama is getting a free ride. They aren’t even trying.”
Exactly.
A fair chance, yes. It's likely he'll need some help (Swift Boat type) because the RNC isn't going to do it.
As another poster pointed out, Obama should be way ahead now, especially with the high gas prices, struggling economy, etc. There's also the rumor that Obama does not debate well, but I suspect he has his canned speeches memorized, so we'll see.
“”Yep, the way it’s looking, we might actually win this thing . . .”
That rat, he spent 5 YEARS saying we were losing or going to lose in Iraq, he spent 5 YEARS saying CINC Bush was everything but a human being, and now that his prissy latte’ brevi drinking backside has been shown to be as wrong as jello gravy, this all the poor dear has to say?
These people have no sense of responsibility whatsoever, this little putz should be laughed off stage along with the rest of Koz BoyZ, bloody nitwits, how can the possibly have been so wrong about what was going to happen in Iraq, this guy has made himself a millionaire bashing GWb and the Iraq War, and THAT is all he has to say?
He sounds like a petulant high school kid who thought they were the best and the brightest then misspelled “potato” in the spelling bee.....
McCain can do it without PA. Just when was the last Republican victory there anyway? If McCain does take that state, it will be as part of a blowout.
I'm glad I don't have to bet my life on this race, but if I did, I'd go with McCain. The odds of anything awful happening to his campaign (gaffs, revelations) are small. Barry, on the other hand... The debates, and whether Obama can survive them without looking like the pompous ass he is, will determine a lot. If he gets a bad case of the "Uh Uh Uh Uh" thing he's prone to, he's toast.
I’m hoping we are waiting for the best time, when most Americans are paying attention.
Nut Roots. Barking Moonbatman must’ve opened this week.
Wouldn’t it be hard to believe that McCain can debate well? he seems to have no instinct for taking it to his opponent.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2047686/posts
I disagree with that, Mad Jon went directly to Mitt’s backside over a timetable in Iraq during the Reagen Library Debate.
IMO McCain’s problem is the Obamao is sucking all of the air out of the room, he could say almost anything and the MSM will pretty much 10-22 it.
What McCain SHOULD be doing is shoring up his support among actual Republicans, and biding his time until the debates IMO.
Go here for a review of waht happened at the OTHER Austin convention, the RightOnline AFP convention:
http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/
Liveblogged about 10 posts, here’s the last one:
http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/2008/07/afp-rightonline-wrapup.html
Go here for a review of waht happened at the OTHER Austin convention, the RightOnline AFP convention:
http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/
Liveblogged about 10 posts, here’s the last one:
http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/2008/07/afp-rightonline-wrapup.html
That is one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen.
You'd think 911 never happened for those people.
Maybe they want BO to officially get the nomination before starting the fight ? I’m sure the GOP would rather face him than Hillary so they don’t want to do anything to derail BO yet.
That being said, they could indeed be doing much more right now even if it’s in warm-up mode.
1980.
(Except with Dole instead of Reagan.)
I thought the title meant they were bracing for victory in Iraq, since it goes against their deepest misbeliefs and threatens their dreams of controlling the all-powerful U.S. gubmint.
Malcontents will always be malcontents.
Until their dream of turning America into a Utopian Socialist State is realized, they will never be happy. And when their dream comes true, and causes human suffering that cannot be imagined, those responsible will be long gone with only a sea of carnage as their legacy.
The cult of Hussein Obama thrives.
I think they can fix them with new surgical procedures now.
Sure he can. The question is, can he also do it without IA and CO and NM and NV, all states that Bush won, and in which McCain has not lead in the polls for months!!
Just three words: AND THEN WHAT?
Malcontents will always be malcontents.
The key thing for us is, by 2010, to be working fastidiously and single-mindedly for a real conservative in 2012. Carter’s second term should be as easy to landslide into Oblivion as his first was. I see 2012 as the Year of the Jindal. We have to start working for CONSERVATIVE outcomes rather than whining about the commie taking over in D.C.
We need to be aligned around a conservative in 2010 and stop the hysteria. It’s conservatism that defeats communism, not liberalism (read, McCain).
Going in Barry 'had a lock on winning' by every poll, but what happened behind the curtain? Barry only got 37%, Hillary won with 39% and Edwards got 17%. That's 56% for: 'the white guys'. In short, Liberal Dem voters are closeted racists.
Hillary danced around that point many times with her, 'Obama can't win the 'working class' voters', aka White People. Billy-Jeff did the same.
Barry will win solid blue states like IL, NY, NJ and Mass. There's no getting around Dem vote corruption and their machines. But in blue states where whites are a majority, like: Wis, Minn, Penn and Ohio look out. That old 'I ain't voting for a black guy' will rear its head and McCain will win those by default.
We know libs are phonies, that's already proved by how little the donate to 'the poor' (blacks). They're the same with their vote. In public they're holier than thou, but behind the voting booth curtain they're the KKK.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Any common sense female who wants the species to continue would flee in abjective horror from these "men".
Do you REALLY think that we can afford even ONE DAY of an Obama presidency, much less four or eight YEARS?! Are you old enough to remember Presidents Carter or Lyndon Johnson? I am, and I want no part of helping elect a socialist like Senator Obama to the White House!! We are still paying for FDR’s sins, for goodness sake!!
Do you REALLY think that we can afford even ONE DAY of an Obama presidency, much less four or eight YEARS?! Are you old enough to remember Presidents Carter or Lyndon Johnson? I am, and I want no part of helping elect a socialist like Senator Obama to the White House!! We are still paying for FDR’s sins, for goodness sake!!
In any case, I can’t control who wins the presidency this year, nor can the most passionate McCain enthusiast (an oxymoron?) control it. My suspicion is Odumbo will win. If so, we have to deal with it. It will take a coherent, organized conservative movement to defeat the onset of Marxism, and the time to get started is now—whether Odumbo wins or Hillary wins in 2012 after 4 inept McCain years.
We need to start facing reality: the Dems have become a Marxist political party and will eventually win the White House. What we REALLY can’t afford to do is run so scared that we depend on Alexander Karensky (aka liberal Republicans) to save us from Lenin (aka Odumbo, Hillary, whoever). It doesn’t work that way. Never has, never will.
You need a conservative to beat a commie.
November 5-—
McCain, 45 states
Obama, 5 states + the 7 in his head
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