Posted on 07/20/2008 9:56:37 PM PDT by doug from upland
FROM THE TRANSCRIPT, HERE IS EVAN BAYH:
And even President Bush now is coming up with a variety of euphemisms — aspirational goals, time horizons. I mean, it's starting to sound pretty much like a timeline to me.
So it's common sense, Chris. Any important enterprise, certainly something as important as a war — you want to have a plan. And a plan has to have some idea of what it's going to cost, what the adverse consequences are going to be and how long it's going to take.
So 16 months seems to be a reasonable goal. Let's work toward that. Let's bring this to a conclusion in a responsible way and focus on Iraq (sic) where the focus should have been all along.
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Bayh did not correct himself. Focus on Iraq where the focus should have been all along.
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Bayh says superdelegates need to consider Obama remarks by Mosheh Oinounou
Indianapolis, IN — Indiana Senator Evan Bayh called on Democratic superdelegates and primary voters to consider the potential fallout from Obama’s remarks during the general election, arguing that it provides “fodder” for the GOP.
“I think it’s a real potential political problem and its something for superdelegates and voters to think about,” Bayh told reporters after Clinton’s first speech this morning in Indianapolis. “The far right wing has a very good track record of using things like this relentlessly against our candidate, whether its Al Gore or John Kerry and I’m afraid this is the kind of fodder they might use to really harm him with.”
While he noted that he does not believe that Obama is an “elitist,” he said the remarks can be interpreted that way–putting the IL Democrat on “dangerous ground.”
“(The Republicans are going to say) that we are cultural elitists, that’s what they are going to say about us regardless of who our candidate is. The question is have we given them some hope to hang their hat on to make that argument. These comments… might be that hook that they use,” he said. “There’s this cultural divide that exists…I think it’s an issue the Democratic party is potentially vulnerable on and has to address.”
Bayh is campaigning with Clinton throughout the Hoosier State Saturday.
I saw Bayh today on Fox and couldn’t believe it. He was lying through his teeth. What politicians won’t do to get ahead.
At 3:09 in the video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=MwIpoFUUiQ4
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Great video. I saw Neil at the Greek and at the opening of the Aladdin Theatre in Las Vegas, July 4, 1976.
“...you want to have a plan. And a plan has to have some idea of what it’s going to cost, what the adverse consequences are going to be and how long it’s going to take.”
I was watching as he said that and said to myself that I sure hope some freeper got that on tape because he is going to be eating that phrase everytime he and The One try to do anything for the next 4 or 8 years. Of coure the MSM won’t actually hold those jokers to anything and after The Fairness Doctirne there won’t be anymore conservative communications so we can pretty much just marvel at things right now.
Yes. Eisenhower had a plan too. It all went by the wayside when the war began.
Hundreds of thousands of lives lost in the quest for freedom from a despicable monster.
Too bad they stopped teaching American History in school. I shudder at what they have substituted for History and Civics.
It may be big news to Bayh - as well as to Hillary and Obama, but Afghanistan has received its fair share of attention, from us, even if the support of some NATO members has been less than robust.
The facts are that the real focus now is no longer Afghanistan. What can be done there and there alone has been.
The facts are that the real focus now is no longer Afghanistan but instead must be placed on Pakistan.
Until Pakistan is willing to solve the problem in its northwest provinces itself or to allow us to help it in that endeavor, the occasional terrorism that filters from those provinces into Afghanistan (1)will continue, and (2)will not be ended with large numbers of additional U.S. troops on the ground in and restricted to Afghanistan.
We can “maintain” the current level of stability and occasional terrorism in Afghanistan at present force levels. We can vastly diminish the terrorism that now falls on Afghanistan only if the war is taken to Pakistan’s northwest provinces, by Pakistan or by us working with her.
The ‘focus’ has never been taken off of Afghanistan. In fact the constant focus has moved the primary terrorist forces out of Afghanistan. The fact that weak Pakistan policies now make it’s northwestern provinces absolute safe havens for the Taliban is only derived from the fact that we have driven the Taliban there and Pakistan refuses to deal with them.
Collectively, that is not a failure of our focus. It is a success of our focus and a failure of Pakistan.
Obama is no great intellectual, just another sometimes eloquent idiot.
I have pretty extensive contact with the military (work with them, married to one, birthed one). I have heard often, "War plans are wonderful until the first round goes downrange."
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
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