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Boy, 4, Dies In Hot Car While Mom In Nail Salon
newsnet5 ^ | July 21, 2008

Posted on 07/21/2008 12:45:53 PM PDT by stainlessbanner

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. -- A Florida woman preparing for her wedding over the weekend is instead mourning the death of her 4-year-old son after she left him in a hot SUV for three hours Saturday, reported WPBF, Newsnet5's sister station.

The Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office said Mirlande Jean-Baptiste, 29, may not have known that her son Gregory Cesar was in her Ford Expedition while she was inside a nail salon Saturday.

Family members said that Jean-Baptiste had dropped off several children at a relative's house before going to the salon with her sister.

Police told WPBF News 25 that they believe Gregory may have snuck back inside the SUV without his mother's knowledge.

Jean-Baptiste was getting her nails done in preparation for her wedding, which was planned for Sunday.

Investigators said that the boy was in the hot car for about three hours while temperatures outside reached 90 degrees.

Gregory's mother and aunt called 911 upon finding the boy unconscious inside the vehicle. He was taken to Palms West Hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

Police said the case is still under investigation.


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1 posted on 07/21/2008 12:45:53 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
Gregory may have snuck back inside the SUV without his mother's knowledge.

Hard to believe a four year old can be in the car without everybody knowing about it.

2 posted on 07/21/2008 12:49:54 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: stainlessbanner

Very sad. Hard to believe she did not know her son was back there, although it is possible he snuck back him. Tragic either way. Prayers to the family.


3 posted on 07/21/2008 12:50:23 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Obama voter.


4 posted on 07/21/2008 12:50:33 PM PDT by A message
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To: Izzy Dunne

Oh no, here we go again. Half of FR will want to hang the mom, the other half will want to award her “Mother of the Year” plaques.


5 posted on 07/21/2008 12:51:15 PM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: stainlessbanner

How do you not know that you left a child in your car? There is no excuse for this. These poor little children rely on we adults for protection and their survival, and they are helpless when we let them down.


6 posted on 07/21/2008 12:51:31 PM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: stainlessbanner

Very sad and tragic, but how does someone forget their own child????


7 posted on 07/21/2008 12:53:15 PM PDT by LiberConservative ("Typical" white guy)
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To: stainlessbanner

Aw, he was a cutie. I can’t even imagine what that woman is going through. She’ll probably remember that everyday for the rest of her life.


8 posted on 07/21/2008 12:53:37 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Don't blame me, I supported Duncan Hunter.)
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To: stainlessbanner

Aw, he was a cutie. I can’t even imagine what that woman is going through. She’ll probably remember that everyday for the rest of her life.


9 posted on 07/21/2008 12:53:37 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Don't blame me, I supported Duncan Hunter.)
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To: stainlessbanner
A Florida woman preparing for her wedding over the weekend is instead mourning the death of her 4-year-old son after she left him in a hot SUV for three hours Saturday, reported WPBF, Newsnet5's sister station.

Doesn't the wedding usually come before the having kids part?

10 posted on 07/21/2008 12:53:48 PM PDT by Koblenz (The Dem Platform, condensed: 1. Tax and Spend. 2. Cut and Run. 3. Man on Man)
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To: stainlessbanner
Expeditions are pretty high for a 4 year old to reach the door handle and climb up and in. Yeah. It's possible, I suppose. Too bad the kid had such a parent who can actually lose track of her kids.
11 posted on 07/21/2008 12:54:26 PM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: Izzy Dunne

Well, either the child was left alone somewhere, or left with a babysitter. Either way, no one noticed where this 4 year old was for over 3 hours. Sounds like plenty of problems with this scenario.


12 posted on 07/21/2008 12:54:35 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Voting for McCain, not because I want to, because I have to.)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
Oh no, here we go again. Half of FR will want to hang the mom....

Before we shoot her, let's wait and see if she postpones the wedding, that will help determine her character (or lack there of).

14 posted on 07/21/2008 12:55:38 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
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To: stainlessbanner
Police said the case is still under investigation.

What's to investigate? The mother is negligent....period. Her nails were obviously more important than her son.....

15 posted on 07/21/2008 12:56:35 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (PLEASE PRAY FOR OUR INFIDEL STEPHENJOHNBANKER)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Gregory may have snuck back inside the SUV without his mother's knowledge.

But then, where exactly did she think he was for three full hours? Someone had to be watching him, whoever it was has a load of guilt on their shoulders.

16 posted on 07/21/2008 12:58:13 PM PDT by eclecticEel (men who believe deeply in something, even wrong, usually triumph over men who believe in nothing)
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To: stainlessbanner

It seems to me that a FOUR year old child should be smart enough and dexterious enough to let himself out of a car when it becomes unbearably hot; unless he was strapped in.

Conversely, if he was strapped in then there is NO WAY he had “snuck back in” the vehicle.

Then again, those “child-locks” on the back doors of vehicles, the ones that render the inside door handles useless, ARE there “for the children”.

What a tragedy.


17 posted on 07/21/2008 12:58:13 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Koblenz

“Doesn’t the wedding usually come before the having kids part?”

Not any more. Welcome to our Brave New World!


18 posted on 07/21/2008 12:59:54 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: WayneS
Great post....just what I was thinking.
19 posted on 07/21/2008 1:01:29 PM PDT by Niteranger68 (Obama is the feces created when shame eats too much stupidity.)
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To: Koblenz

“Doesn’t the wedding usually come before the having kids part?”

That is a counter-revolutionary idea that dates back to when women were oppressed and people obtained jobs via their qualifications.


20 posted on 07/21/2008 1:02:27 PM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: eclecticEel

Exactly. Even if he snuck back in, the “relative” should have missed him and done something - call the mom, call the salon, call the police, something.


21 posted on 07/21/2008 1:02:54 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: stainlessbanner

My 4 year old knows how to get out of the car.

poor little feller

mom...damn...what a stupid bitch


22 posted on 07/21/2008 1:05:48 PM PDT by wardaddy (Myself and my ancestors take full responsibility for all racial discrimination here since 1607)
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To: stainlessbanner

What a cutie and what a shame.

What is wrong with these mothers? Talk about negligence.


23 posted on 07/21/2008 1:06:08 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: WayneS

There’s the problem right there. The child locks would have trapped the kid after he got in.

Regardless of what else was going on, the tragedy could have been averted had the car been locked.


24 posted on 07/21/2008 1:06:14 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: stainlessbanner
Police told WPBF News 25 that they believe Gregory may have snuck back inside the SUV without his mother's knowledge.

No sale.

25 posted on 07/21/2008 1:06:41 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Koblenz
Doesn't the wedding usually come before the having kids part?

Only with same-sex weddings.

26 posted on 07/21/2008 1:06:43 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Koblenz
Doesn't the wedding usually come before the having kids part?

not anymore in this anything goes, don't make judgement culture....you bigot you

27 posted on 07/21/2008 1:07:02 PM PDT by wardaddy (Myself and my ancestors take full responsibility for all racial discrimination here since 1607)
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To: WayneS
A friend's toddler got into the back seat of the car once and got stuck because of the child locks on the door, luckily it was not hot, and she found him within minutes of noticing he was missing.

Now no vehicles are left unlocked on the property.

28 posted on 07/21/2008 1:07:59 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Some days it is not worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: Michael.SF.
Before we shoot her, let's wait and see if she postpones the wedding,

Why don't we just wait to see if she would leave her kid trapped in a hot care while she tended to her nails, before passing judgment? Check. OK let's shoot her, or sign her up for an episode of Bridezillas.

29 posted on 07/21/2008 1:08:31 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: stainlessbanner

She’ll never get over this. Never.


30 posted on 07/21/2008 1:08:44 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
Oh no, here we go again. Half of FR will want to hang the mom, the other half will want to award her “Mother of the Year” plaques.

Why don't we wait for some follow up information and factual details?

There are certain "what if" statements that can be made. One is that IF she was aware the kid was in the car, she is a murderer. We don't know that to be a fact at this point. But if it is indeed a fact, then off with her head.

Seems unlikely, but it is possible that the kid could have snuck back into the vehicle and fooled her. If that indeed happened, then we are looking at a more basic tragedy. It is not unreasonable to assume that for the kid to pull that off, someone was careless. Criminally careless? Not enough facts yet.

31 posted on 07/21/2008 1:09:27 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: wardaddy

My nine year old grandson is sitting by me. I asked him what he thought of forgetting your child in a car. He laughed first, like it was silly (I didn’t tell him any details) and then he said, “it’s impossible, especially (to forget) a kid. Wouldn’t you be walking along or something and say where’s my kid?”


32 posted on 07/21/2008 1:10:12 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: The Iceman Cometh

That’s a good point. He was supposed to be at the sitters. What kind of sitter doesn’t notice a child is missing in 3 hours? If the sitter did notice, what kind of sitter doesn’t attempt to contact the mother?


33 posted on 07/21/2008 1:10:34 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Don't blame me, I supported Duncan Hunter.)
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To: LiberConservative

We were at two kid birthday parties this weekend. Both times my 2yr old got away from the group and was found out front, one time in the street. Scary, scary stuff. Gave me a nightmare last night. Hopefully this was a mistake and not negligence on her part, either way it can’t bring him back. God be with all involved.


34 posted on 07/21/2008 1:12:05 PM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: WayneS

I have those child locks on my car and have them turned on, ever since my toddler son started pulling on the handle as a funny “see Mommy’s reaction” game.
I have also taught my pre-K daughter how to climb to the front and let herself out if she and/or her brother ever got stuck inside.


35 posted on 07/21/2008 1:13:47 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
Oh no, here we go again. Half of FR will want to hang the mom, the other half will want to award her “Mother of the Year” plaques.

Yours is one of the most ignorant posts I have read in a long time. What half of FR would want to award her "Mother of the Year?"

I'd have that post pulled if I were you.

36 posted on 07/21/2008 1:14:10 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: Hacklehead

The thinking that you should be married before having kids is judgemental and patriarchal, and is only a part of a culture that seeks to oppress women.

/feminist BS

Illustrative that the Bible mentions feminism in the same verse as rebellious children... just sayin’


37 posted on 07/21/2008 1:15:40 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: WayneS; Koblenz

Not that I’d make book on it, but it is quite possible that a 29 yo woman could have been previously married, then divorced.

No one here ever seen a divorced 29 yo woman with a 4 yo kid get remarried?

We have plenty of time to hang her. Why don’t we wait for a little more information before doing so. I’ll knot the noose, but only after I get more than this truncated story.


38 posted on 07/21/2008 1:16:33 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Here's the most exonerating scenario:

She drops off the children at the sitter's house. While no one is paying attention, little Gregory climbs into the open car.

Gregory is hiding and keeping quiet in the back seat because he knows he is not supposed to be there. He then falls asleep on the way to the nail salon and remains unseen.

During the three hours Mirlande is in the salon, the babysitter does not bother to call her because she has for some reason assumed that Gregory was supposed to go with Mirlande and was not being dropped off with her.

Meanwhile Gregory's body temperature rises so much while he is sleeping that by the time he wakes up - if he wakes up - he is too weak to do much of anything to call attention to himself.

39 posted on 07/21/2008 1:17:41 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Lijahsbubbe

I agree..even after two heart surgeries and even in the stupor of Dixie summer heat, I doubt I would leave a child in the car by accident.


40 posted on 07/21/2008 1:18:00 PM PDT by wardaddy (Myself and my ancestors take full responsibility for all racial discrimination here since 1607)
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To: hershey

Assuming she is a more or less normal mother, and not some kind of ultra-selfish, narcissistic, socio-path, I agree with you.


41 posted on 07/21/2008 1:20:46 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Car locked? WHY DID SHE NOT MISS THIS CHILD DURING THOSE THREE HOURS???? DID SHE NOT SEE HIM AROUND??? DID SHE THINK HE WAS JUST IN THE OTHER ROOM PLAYING FOR THREE FREAKING HOURS????? THIS DOES NOT JIVE.


42 posted on 07/21/2008 1:22:02 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Congress in session, the White House occupied - Your freedom, liberty and rights are in jeopardy.)
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To: stainlessbanner

A 4 year old has a mouth and I can’t understand why he wasn’t hollering and sceaming and no one heard him. It would be hard for a 4 year old to sneak back in the car without saying something.

I think he was asleep and she just forgot to take him out of the car. They said she dropped off other kids—she had probably had quite a few.


43 posted on 07/21/2008 1:22:27 PM PDT by lone star annie
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To: stainlessbanner

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/palmbeach/sfl-gregory-wma,0,3608370.wmafile

911 call


44 posted on 07/21/2008 1:23:23 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: wideawake

Very plausible.

I hope it, or something very like it, is the true story here.


45 posted on 07/21/2008 1:24:00 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: stainlessbanner

all good questions raised here. here’s mine: who goes to a nail salon for 3 hours??? unless it was one of those manicures where every nail has a portrait painted on it.


46 posted on 07/21/2008 1:27:25 PM PDT by thefactor (the innocent shall not suffer nor the guilty go free...)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Hard to believe a four year old can be in the car without everybody knowing about it.

Not at all hard to believe, actually ... my sisters even did it, when they were little. Snuck into my grandparents' car, and weren't discovered for several miles.

This kid could easily have done so, especially if the mom was distracted by the "several other children" she was dropping off.

Then suppose he fell asleep -- not out of the realm of possibility -- and you've got a little guy who's about to wake up dead.

47 posted on 07/21/2008 1:32:27 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: wideawake

And if things happened exactly as you say (there is no evidence given which precludes your scenario) then we have some mighty hasty hangmen here.

God forbid some tragedy befall them- a kid drowning in the bath tub, a kid knocks over a candle, a kid darts behind their car while backing out of the drive, a kid chokes on a peice of candy....

Hope they will “understand” when the lynch mob arrives for them.


48 posted on 07/21/2008 1:33:37 PM PDT by getitright
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To: Hacklehead
and people obtained jobs via their qualifications.

Shouldn't that read "in spite of their qualifications".

49 posted on 07/21/2008 1:33:49 PM PDT by reg45
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To: Koblenz

Your comment is unbelievably cold. You should be ashamed.

For all you know, it could be a second marriage. Yours is the kind of comment that makes me hesitate to refer friends to FR.


50 posted on 07/21/2008 1:33:49 PM PDT by Maceman
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