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No Smoking Hot Spot (Scientist recants on global warming)
The Australian ^ | July 18, 2008 | Dr. David Evans

Posted on 07/21/2008 8:06:29 PM PDT by raisetheroof

I DEVOTED six years to carbon accounting, building models for the Australian Greenhouse Office. I am the rocket scientist who wrote the carbon accounting model (FullCAM) that measures Australia's compliance with the Kyoto Protocol, in the land use change and forestry sector.

(Excerpt) Read more at theaustralian.news.com.au ...


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Dr. Evans has probably been crossed off Al Gore's Christmas card list over this one.
1 posted on 07/21/2008 8:06:30 PM PDT by raisetheroof
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To: raisetheroof

If Dr. Evans would have used a little common sense he wouldn’t be in this pickle. Dr. Evans = recovered helpful idiot


2 posted on 07/21/2008 8:10:49 PM PDT by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: raisetheroof

No More Earth Day Parties with the Poltiboro..


3 posted on 07/21/2008 8:11:15 PM PDT by philly-d-kidder (Kuwait where the Weather is always Partly Sandy!)
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To: raisetheroof
Great article...thanks for posting. Best paragraphs:

The world has spent $50 billion on global warming since 1990, and we have not found any actual evidence that carbon emissions cause global warming. Evidence consists of observations made by someone at some time that supports the idea that carbon emissions cause global warming. Computer models and theoretical calculations are not evidence, they are just theory.

What is going to happen over the next decade as global temperatures continue not to rise? The Labor Government is about to deliberately wreck the economy in order to reduce carbon emissions. If the reasons later turn out to be bogus, the electorate is not going to re-elect a Labor government for a long time. When it comes to light that the carbon scare was known to be bogus in 2008, the ALP is going to be regarded as criminally negligent or ideologically stupid for not having seen through it. And if the Liberals support the general thrust of their actions, they will be seen likewise.

4 posted on 07/21/2008 8:11:44 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: raisetheroof
Dr. Evans has probably been crossed off Al Gore's Christmas card list over this one.

And he'll never get another "grant" in his natural lifetime...

5 posted on 07/21/2008 8:13:32 PM PDT by GOPJ (Obama wins the "unicorn and lavender sky" vote...")
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To: raisetheroof

I wonder why more Freepers haven’t read this. It’s a huge indictment of the Global Warming Cult.


6 posted on 07/21/2008 8:14:29 PM PDT by wildbill ( FR---changing history by erasing it from memory.)
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To: DouglasKC
What is going to happen over the next decade as global temperatures continue not to rise? The Labor Government is about to deliberately wreck the economy in order to reduce carbon emissions. If the reasons later turn out to be bogus, the electorate is not going to re-elect a Labor government for a long time. When it comes to light that the carbon scare was known to be bogus in 2008, the ALP is going to be regarded as criminally negligent ...

You're right - great stuff.

7 posted on 07/21/2008 8:16:07 PM PDT by GOPJ (Obama wins the "unicorn and lavender sky" vote...")
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To: Uncledave

ping


8 posted on 07/21/2008 8:17:09 PM PDT by GOPJ (Obama wins the "unicorn and lavender sky" vote...")
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To: raisetheroof

But... but... he was a government consultant during the Conservative government... so it doesn’t really count. /s


9 posted on 07/21/2008 8:17:30 PM PDT by paudio (Like it or not, 'conservatism' is a word with many meanings. Yours may be different from mine.)
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To: raisetheroof

WHAT ABOUT COW FARTS.


10 posted on 07/21/2008 8:22:01 PM PDT by SIDENET (Yes. I'm goofing around.)
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To: raisetheroof

Quite an article, he put considerable thought into this compact exposition. It is an apology and a warning.


11 posted on 07/21/2008 8:25:24 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: raisetheroof
Global Warming is just another Social Security Lock Box.

Originally meant to do good, but has become a fraud, ponzi scheme, and nothing more than a means to redistribute capital.

Everyone now knows it is not going to work, but keep on putting money in it.

Remove the redistribution of wealth and no one cares.

Al Gore is fat.

I am too so I can call him that.

12 posted on 07/21/2008 8:25:53 PM PDT by highpockets
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To: xcamel

ping!


13 posted on 07/21/2008 8:27:45 PM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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To: raisetheroof

Jeepus! All living things on earth are carbon based.
How did people get so stupid as to discount this very basic knowledge?

Carbon is a blessing, not a curse.


14 posted on 07/21/2008 8:27:47 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: raisetheroof
I am the rocket scientist who wrote...

I don't know if I can trust anyone who starts off a piece like this. But I like the rest of it.

BTW, I found a bio here and no mention of rockets. Weird.

15 posted on 07/21/2008 8:28:15 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: GOPJ
And he'll never get another "grant" in his natural lifetime...<'i>

Voilà

16 posted on 07/21/2008 8:28:35 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: raisetheroof

It appears a lot of genuine scientists are starting to have second thoughts about risking their careers just to help a failed presidential candidate build a legacy and a huge bank account.


17 posted on 07/21/2008 8:28:56 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("The End Is Near!" - Algore)
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To: GOPJ
If the reasons later turn out to be bogus, the electorate is not going to re-elect a Labor government for a long time.

I hope so. But in the meantime, a "Labor government", and liberals in general pushing this, can do a lot of damage that will require much more than merely un-electing them to fix it.

18 posted on 07/21/2008 8:29:41 PM PDT by raisetheroof ("To become Red is to become dead --- gradually." Alexander Solzhenitsyn)
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To: raisetheroof

Hm....


19 posted on 07/21/2008 8:30:52 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: TheWasteLand

I took it to answer the rhetorical question, “Who’s the ‘rocket scientist’ who wrote THIS? (full CAM)”


20 posted on 07/21/2008 8:31:29 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: kinsman redeemer

Ah, self deprecation. Fair enough.


21 posted on 07/21/2008 8:32:42 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: raisetheroof

Al Gore is with Kleiner Perkins looking to invest in windmills and other renewable energy technologies. He scares the kids and their parents to death and then says ‘buy my windmills to save the world.’ Any other ‘preacher’ trying to make money off this extortive fear of global warming would be tarred and feather - but Gore gets a free pass. He is looking more like Elmer Gantry every day.


22 posted on 07/21/2008 8:33:32 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (They have noticed the shrinking icecaps on Mars - Ya think it's the sun?)
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To: raisetheroof

CO2 lags temperature by 800 years time.
Therefore Temperature is not a function of CO2 the realionship is inverse.

This is basic science.


23 posted on 07/21/2008 8:34:23 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
help a failed presidential candidate build a legacy and a huge bank account.

If AlGore succeeds he may have a huge bank account but he will have wrecked the world economy and that is not much of a legacy.

24 posted on 07/21/2008 8:34:54 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: SIDENET
"WHAT ABOUT COW FARTS."

Depends on how much water vapor they contain. But I seriously doubt all the cow farts in the world could form a rain cloud.

25 posted on 07/21/2008 8:37:06 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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4. The new ice cores show that in the past six global warmings over the past half a million years, the temperature rises occurred on average 800 years before the accompanying rise in atmospheric carbon. Which says something important about which was cause and which was effect.
26 posted on 07/21/2008 8:37:41 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Well duh Mr scientist naybe the watmer weather alowed for people and plants and animal to thrive increasing the the CO2 output.

When theres no food in an ice age maybe there is less thriving life on the planet?


27 posted on 07/21/2008 8:40:39 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
"How did people get so stupid as to discount this very basic knowledge?"

Beats me. The sheeple spend too much time watching porn and 'amusing' themselves I guess. They let the Liberal moonbat special interest groups decide everything else for them, including what to think and believe to be true.

28 posted on 07/21/2008 8:42:38 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

But the scientists ignore this basic information.


29 posted on 07/21/2008 8:44:07 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TheWasteLand
"BTW, I found a bio here and no mention of rockets. Weird.

I think he was admitting to being the "rocket scientist" meaning "not very smart guy" who wrote that.

30 posted on 07/21/2008 8:45:00 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: raisetheroof

“Global warming” hoax BUMP!


31 posted on 07/21/2008 8:46:15 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Nathan Zachary

Yep. My sarcasm detector seems to be broken today.


32 posted on 07/21/2008 8:50:43 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: raisetheroof

All Decaying things that are carbon based give off CO2.

A decaying leaf gives off the same amount of CO2 as a leaf that is burnt. The only difference is the rate of release and burning provides something useful...energy!

Leaves rotting on the ground account for more CO2 output that all the cars and factory’s in the world. And it happens every fall. Think of the huge masses of decaying plant matter on this planet.

These scientists are idiots.

Freeking eggheads!


33 posted on 07/21/2008 8:54:47 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
"But the scientists ignore this basic information."

Not all of them. In fact not even half of them. Only the so called "scientists" at the UN who just happen to be pushing for this global governance and transfer of wealth scam, many of which aren't even climatologists. They skewed the report in the first place, ignoring what real scientists who wrote the report had said, which was there was no conclusive evidence that Carbon dioxide caused "global warming" much less the tiny amount made by humans.

Of course MSM, owned by the elitist who are no doubt members of the club, will not allow these scientists any opportunity to correct the LIE the UN and certain Liberal governments/ members are propagating all over the western world.

34 posted on 07/21/2008 8:56:03 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Agreed.


35 posted on 07/21/2008 8:57:18 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: raisetheroof

The Global Warming Pod People are going to get him now.


36 posted on 07/21/2008 8:58:02 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: Nathan Zachary

I have been listening to shortwave radio and it is astounding how widely spread the lie is.

Australia is awful. Radio Australia should be called “Radio Global Warming Hoax”


37 posted on 07/21/2008 8:59:48 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: raisetheroof

Bump.


38 posted on 07/21/2008 9:08:57 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: mylife; All

Number one source of CO2 is... plate tectonics.

Faults...rock grinding on rock, releasing CO2, amoungst other gases.


39 posted on 07/21/2008 9:26:06 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: raisetheroof

Excellent article - to be included with a letter I’m sending to my Representative complaining about his stance against offshore drilling, and pointing out among other things how out of touch he is if he really still believes that fossil fuels are destroying our environment........


40 posted on 07/21/2008 9:27:10 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: TheWasteLand

Yes, he’s probably being self-deprecating but I must say I find his qualifications pretty impressive. The print version of the article showed that he had a BSc, BE-EE, MA(Sydney), MS-EE, MS-Stat, PhD EE (Stanford).

If only they would listen to him. Fat chance.


41 posted on 07/21/2008 9:27:49 PM PDT by Nipfan
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To: PeaceBeWithYou

There are so many reasons these people are wrong.
Do you realize the amount of CO2 the gazilions of bacteria on the planet put off everyday?

And lets ignore the sun in our models...sheesh!


42 posted on 07/21/2008 9:29:02 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: raisetheroof
Perfectly summarized:

The onus should be on those who want to change things to provide evidence for why the changes are necessary. The Australian public is eventually going to have to be told the evidence anyway, so it might as well be told before wrecking the economy.

43 posted on 07/21/2008 9:29:23 PM PDT by bigbob (2)
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To: DouglasKC
Here's anther article along the same theme, but its focus is on the findings of Dr. Roy Spencer.

My favorite line: "There goes the alarmist neighbourhood!"

44 posted on 07/21/2008 10:31:24 PM PDT by raisetheroof ("To become Red is to become dead --- gradually." Alexander Solzhenitsyn)
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To: raisetheroof

bump


45 posted on 07/21/2008 10:39:25 PM PDT by Exton1
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To: raisetheroof
When it comes to light that the carbon scare was known to be bogus in 2008, the ALP is going to be regarded as criminally negligent or ideologically stupid for not having seen through it.

That's normal operation in the realm of politics. First of all, politicians are trained to speak ambiguously and vote for something and then against it. This way they can always say that they supported X or were against X, whatever is most convenient. We laugh at their voting patterns and call them idiots, but they laugh at us and call us idiots too, and my fear is that they are right.

Secondly, they can rewrite the history, it's easy because the modern society has attention span of 3 minutes, and can believe in any ridiculous thing as long as The Figure of Authority says it (such as a newspaper or a TV station.) There is very little history preserved even if you specifically look for it; but if you just want to Google something you can come up with any amount of fake data; Wikipedia suffered quite a few forgeries, for example. With more and more print media dying, all our news are coming from the "live wire" and it is archived ... nowhere. If you want an example from 20th century (not even from 0th!) just have a look at the Holocaust "controversy", with "opinions from both sides" - the history is being rewritten in front of our eyes.

46 posted on 07/21/2008 11:21:27 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: raisetheroof

BTTT


47 posted on 07/21/2008 11:39:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (Drill or get off the Hill. ... call Nancy Pelosi @ 202 - 225 - 0100)
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To: raisetheroof; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; CygnusXI; ...
 


Global Warming Scam News & Views
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48 posted on 07/22/2008 3:01:16 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: raisetheroof
That is a very well written article and a must read.
49 posted on 07/22/2008 12:50:48 PM PDT by Entrepreneur (The environmental movement is filled with watermelons - green on the outside, red on the inside)
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To: DouglasKC
What is going to happen over the next decade as global temperatures continue not to rise?

The leftists will take credit for saving the planet. All their efforts turned Global Warming around.

50 posted on 07/22/2008 4:24:16 PM PDT by alnick
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