Posted on 07/22/2008 4:49:47 AM PDT by visitor
EDITORS' NOTE: The New York Times wouldn't print this oped from the GOP candidate.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Pfft. If it’s not blessed by the NYT, what good is it? (S)
The DNC Times couldn’t print it since it destroys their boy. Yeah, our troops are doing a fantastic job, no thanks to you. Hey Oblack, is the World a safer place w/o Saddamn??
Pray for W and Our Victorious Troops
I wonder if the NYT has figured out how extremely partisan they have made themselves appear by rejecting his op-ed piece and telling him they “hoped it would MIRROR Senator Obama’s” (caps mine)?
They do all the “mirror’ing” of Obama’s puff pieces as it is, why do they need McCain to “mirror” them as well?
It’s a rhetorical question.
exactly, if the times had just printed it 1 million moonbats would have ignored it, now millions will see it or hear about it...
More people are going to read it now than would have had the NYT not censored it. Good move guys! Censorship always works!! LOL
Sorry about this, but having read read BOTH articles, I can now see the NYT’s point. Obama’s op-ed, while obviously flawed and overfull of rationalisation for his changing viewpoints just never stoops to the level of “cheap hit piece,” as McCain’s so often does.
McCain is mentioned only twice in Obama’s piece, and only in the context that Obama disagrees with him. I couldn’t count the number of times Obama, his plans, views and past history were attacked in McCain’s “op-ed,” but it is certainly over ten. Consequently, McCain’s piece does not fare well in comparison to Obama’s.
Not printing McCain’s op-ed in favour of Obama’s would be a no-brainer for any competent editor.
The good news is, this has backfired on the NY Times anyway.
We need to hear both sides in an election as important as the Presidency of the US. Answering your opponent's ideas and stating that they're wrong and harmful to our country is as American as apple pie.
Yer too funny.
By the way, welcome to FR.
That is what I was thinking yesterday when Fox started talking about it...millions now know about this piece.
Kind of the same unintended consequences of the “not my baby Alex,” piece, thank God move on got clobbered over that disgusting POS to. Just goes to show you, sometimes its a bad thing to have more money than sense.
Seems to me everyone else who has read both op-eds, other than the NY Times and other idiot Obama supporters, disagrees with you.
Was thinking the same this morning on the way to work, this backfired, over Obama worship station MSNBC is reporting the story.
Just because you’re in the majority doesn’t mean you’re in the right, you know.
I’m certainly willing to respect anyone else’s opinion about it, even if they refuse to respect mine.
Calling me an Obambi supporter goes a little beyond the pale, however. I must admit that I am not all that comfortable with McCain’s policies, foreign OR domestic, but had I the choice (I’m Canadian and therefore can’t vote in the USA), I would certainly vote Republican and McCain - even if I needed a clothespin to do it.
Cheers.
Here is the problem kimosabe. By printing Obama's editorial that was critical of John McCaim's position, the NY Times gave free advertising to the Obama Campaign. By refusing to print the rebuttal by McCain, their gift of editorial page space to Obama becomes a de facto Campaign contribution.
The NY Times had no business printing an unedited editorial by one candidate in a presidential race specifically critical of another candidate and then refusing to give the same consideration to a candidate criticized in that editorial.
But then if the NY Times is not going to be investigated for treason, they are not going to be investigated for illegal campaign contributions, are they?
You forgot the “< /sarcasm >” tag at the end of your post.
You couldn’t count to ten?
Yeah, and the low-life Editor takes a vacation. I guess you call that the Audacity of Ignorance. If the libs keep this up, McCain’s base will rally behind him. Americans like the underdog, and we’re for fair play. Already, the media’s clear support of Obama is wearing thin with the public.
BTW, is anyone watching the TV coverage of Obama’s Rock Tour? I haven’t seen a thing.
I have no problem with the NYT’s decision, whatsoever. As I said before - It’s a no-brainer: The differences in tone and in print between the two op-ed pieces were simply too glaringly obvious for the editor to ignore.
Sigh. I kept falling asleep and losing count.
Hmmm. Humourous reply, but only for a reason you obviously fail to understand. It seems all the more humourous the more I read it, too.
Thanks!
Hey, get a load of this obvious plant “newbie” here. Excuse me, but I think McCAin countered Obama’s unadulterated Irish BS quite well.
Here’s the bottom line. Who do you want in office leading our troops? A proven warhorse or someone wet behind the ears.
We need Obama in the Senate doing great things for his country. We don’t need a quick change artist, or another Jimmy Carter. Please not in my life time.
McCAin is not perfect, but it doesn’t have to be perfect. He has my vote.
HOw about you, does he have your vote, Newbie?
Opinion is not attack. There IS a difference. I think McCain could’ve written a better piece than this - I HOPE so, anyway.
Well, I suppose it would be expected that if you have no brain then you would naturally agree with the "no brainer" NY Times editorial board decisions.
Maybe you’re right, the piece could have been better, but on the other hand, he’s running for president not trying to get an “A” in his journalism class. And I suppose that Obama actually wrote his piece.
Let me clue you in, Newbie, Obama writes nothing. He’s a mouth piece. Kind of like the countless Hip-Hop groups out ther that are a product of a team of writers, producers, musicians, choreographers, hair stylists etc. This guy is an empty suit. He’s not a person that can lead me anywhere.
He’s not a Jackie Robinson. He hasn’t earned my support, my interest. He’s a phony. He’s a product of the same culture that brought us Jessie Jackson and Sanford and Son.
nick
PS-You’re from Canada? Whereabouts?
You obviously do not see McCain’s op-ed as an attack on Obama. I don’t think we’re going to agree on this issue.
I can certainly agree with you regarding the importance of debate, however and I hope that we will see some spirited examples of it between these two in future.
All you know about me is that I agree with a publishing decision made by a NY Times editor that you disagree with. If that makes me an “obvious plant,” then call me a Geranium.
The only reason McCain doesn’t have my vote is because I am Canadian and I cannot vote in the USA.
As I have posted here a few times before, he would certainly have my vote were I eligible.
I am not an Obambi fan. I agree with you - Obama is nothing but hot air. I simply agreed with the publisher’s decision because of (what I perceived to be) the low nature of McCain’s piece, that’s ALL.
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From all over Canada, actually. Born in ON, lived/worked most of my life in AB, but also lived/worked in NB nd QC, and spent 8 years working in Tx and Pa. Currently living in ON, but headed back to AB in Sept.
That's mighty nice of you, Newbie (2008-06-09), even if it is expressed sniffingly - debate, that is, except to allow reply of McCain in the NYT. Your debate affinities have more than a totalitarian whiff to them.
Would that your Democrat brethren in the House and Senate also agree on the importance of debate - instead of not permitting debate and voting in the full bodies where the majority of members, including even the few semi-conservative Democrats, and the American public would prevail.
Your reply is right up there on par with “I know you are but what am I?”
Pathetic attempt to pass insult off as discourse.
Obama said yesterday that Canadians can recite the names of all 50 STates, (actually all 57), but that Americans can’t name all the Canadian provinces.
I say that most Canadians can’t list all the provinces.
Milky, without looking can you name them in two minutes? Don’t cheat...
Last post on the matter:
Wow. More insults. D- for lack of originality. I like WITTY responses. Half-witty ones, however, do not really do anything for me.
I agreed with the NYT editor’s decision on this issue and stated my opinion on the matter. You, quite obviously did not and stated yours.
Let it go - I certainly already have.
Yes, I can - and the Provincial and Territorial Capitols - and so can every other Canadian I have ever known. Most of us know all 50 States, too.
I can’t resist being a smartass - There’s an old joke that Canada doesn’t ever have to worry about an attack from the USA because no one in the USA can find Canada on a map...
For ten points, The Candadian PRovinces are:
Alberta,
Northest Territory
ONtario
New Foundland
NOva Scotia
Yukon
B.C.
Quebec
Sasquatch-chuwon
Montreal
Toronto
and Medicine Hat
oh, and I almost forgot
Greenland
Well, I've known a few Canucks in my time who couldn't slap their @ss with both hands.
We’ve clearly won in Iraq. We’ve defeated al-qaeda and saddam’s old regime. The security situation is such that we’re going to be out of Iraq within 2 years no matter who is president. The obvious concerns are what will happen when we’re gone. Hopefully we’ll keep 10 or 20,000 in place to keep the Iranians in check. But we should be celebrating a great victory right now. And the gop should have some guts and start taking out ads in newspapers congratulating our troops. Call Jully 23rd victory in Iraq day.
Okay, I forgot Prince Edwards Island, Nunavut TErritories, St John's, New Brunswick and Manitoba
It is not an attack on Obama!!! That’s what the Leftists and the driveby media are saying, but it is not true and not logical. It is propaganda.
It is an attack on Obama’s position. On Obama’s policies. On Obama’s ideas.
An attack on Obama would be calling him ugly, too black, saying he’s got big ears, calling him stupid, etc, etc. Saying he’s wrong about Iraq is not an attack on OBAMA!!!!
You left out PEI, New Brunwick, St. Pierre & Miquelon, and Vermont.
Richardson to McCain: Stop whining about editorial
By Beth Sussman
http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/richardson-mccain-should-stop-whining-about-editorial-2008-07-22.html
New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson (D) said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) is “overreacting” and “whining” in response to The New York Times refusing to run his editorial about Iraq.
Richardson, who supports Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) for president, said in an interview on Fox News on Tuesday that the rejection of McCain’s editorial is not surprising because The New York Times turns down many editorials from politicians, including presidential candidates.
“Well, look, The New York Times is very fussy. I mean, I’ve sent many editorials that they’ve rejected — in fact, most of them,” Richardson said.
(snip)
Here’s your answer.
PEI?
Considering that you’re another second rate politician, Bill, who can put together a cohesive sentence in SPanish or in English, I’d respectfully would tell you to just STFU.
Prince Edward Island.
Manitoba is also missing from the list.
Please see post #36
who CAN’T put together a cohesive sentence in SPanish or in English
I agree. Free advertising.
I wonder, though, if McCain should not have the FEC list the NYT as a proponent of the Obama campaign and insist that that exempts them from campaigning within 30-90 days of the election.
McCain-Feingold.
That would be fun to see.
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