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‘Stuck in a free country' (anchor baby)
The Brownsville Herald ^ | July 20, 2008 | Kevin Sieff

Posted on 07/22/2008 5:26:26 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

When Lupita Sanchez applied for a passport, she didn't expect her U.S. citizenship would be called into question. But three months after completing her application - 38 years after she was born in Brownsville - Sanchez received a shocking letter from the U.S. State Department...explaining that her application had been closed, "Once you obtain U.S. citizenship, you may execute another application for a U.S. passport."

Sanchez...has been voting and paying taxes in the U.S. for 20 years. But along with hundreds of other South Texans delivered by midwives, the validity of Sanchez's birth certificate, and her citizenship, is being called into question.

"I'm being discriminated against because my parents were unable to pay for a doctor," Sanchez said.

The government suspects that as many as 15,000 midwife-granted birth certificates were issued fraudulently in South Texas. Between 1960 to 2008, more than 75 South Texas midwives were convicted of signing birth certificates for children they did not deliver....

...many, like Lupita Sanchez, were the first members of their families born in the United States. Sanchez's father, a migrant laborer, put away money for months to pay for a midwife in downtown Brownsville. When her mother was nearly nine months pregnant, she crossed the border illegally from Matamoros to Brownsville with $200...Sanchez was delivered to a midwife less than a half-mile from the Rio Grande. She became a citizen upon birth because of a provision in the 14th Amendment...that grants American-born babies citizenship, even if their parents are undocumented.

"Right now you see people coming (to the U.S.), to have their babies and rely on the government to pay for their Medicaid," she said. "I'm proud to say that my parents didn't ask for any help. They crossed the border and paid for a midwife with their own money."...

(Excerpt) Read more at brownsvilleherald.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; anchorbabies; birthright; citizenship; fraud; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist
She says, she says....Lying, cheating, anything goes. She is proud that her parents did not rely on government assistance to cheat!
1 posted on 07/22/2008 5:26:27 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD
When Lupita Sanchez applied for a passport, she didn't expect her U.S. citizenship would be called into question. But three months after completing her application - 38 years after she was born in Brownsville

Cry me a river

2 posted on 07/22/2008 5:29:18 AM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: 3AngelaD

I;m not saying she wasn’t there, but I don’t think she was in any capacity to be able to remember! Her parents might well have told her, but all she is doing is repeating hearsay.


3 posted on 07/22/2008 5:30:07 AM PDT by ikka
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To: 3AngelaD
Anchor baby status should be abolished. Citizenship should granted only to children born of U.S citizens. Every one else should be ineligible unless they are naturalized U.S citizens.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

4 posted on 07/22/2008 5:30:35 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: 3AngelaD
The media is interested in Lupita Sanchez's birth certificate.
The media is interested in John McCain's birth certificate.

Obama? Birth certificate? Why would the media ask about that? Let's move on.

5 posted on 07/22/2008 5:31:16 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: 3AngelaD

I hate to be so jaded since my son was delivered by a midwife with no one else in attendance except my husband, but maybe the $200.00 her father paid the midwife was really for the birth certificate and not the delivery.


6 posted on 07/22/2008 5:32:08 AM PDT by muggs (No matter who wins, America loses)
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To: Charlespg
You're not really a citizen if the citizenship in question was acquired under fraudulent or illegal circumstances. I suspect this is just the tip of a very vast iceberg.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

7 posted on 07/22/2008 5:32:16 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
I don't mind anchor baby status for kids of immigrants who work and live in the US legally.
8 posted on 07/22/2008 5:33:56 AM PDT by SolidWood (Obamarxislamism, the threat to our Republic!)
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To: 3AngelaD

The mother crossed the border illegally for the sole purpose of having her baby. The child should NOT be a US citizen - period.
They admitted this freely in the article and we are supposed to feel SORRY for this woman?
Why didn’t mom have her in Mexico?


9 posted on 07/22/2008 5:49:08 AM PDT by captjanaway
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To: 3AngelaD

She has nobdy to blame but her mother.


10 posted on 07/22/2008 5:50:10 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (My Freedom of speech trumps your feelings!)
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To: 3AngelaD

She became a citizen upon birth because of a provision in the 14th Amendment...that grants American-born babies citizenship, even if their parents are undocumented.
_________________________________________________

DUH...

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

The 14th Amendment was not written for illegall aliens or the childfen of illegal aliens...

Where’s the obligitory BARF ALERT ???????????


11 posted on 07/22/2008 5:59:03 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Charlespg
Cry me a river

The Rio Bravo!!!

12 posted on 07/22/2008 6:05:43 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: 3AngelaD
Birthright citizenship,while once the norm in civilized countries of the world (US,Western and Central Europe,Australia,etc) is now basically unheard of outside of the US.Ireland just rescinded their law a couple of years ago (thus resulting in Europe having done away with it completely)....in order to eliminate the “anchor baby” problem.
13 posted on 07/22/2008 6:12:39 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The problem with the rat race is,even if you win you're still a rat.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Smart people.


14 posted on 07/22/2008 6:31:35 AM PDT by Niuhuru (Don't burn a bra, burn a feminist!)
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To: 3AngelaD
What a LOAD! I love this: "I'm being discriminated against because my parents were unable to pay for a doctor." Ummm...no. You are only being treated like the illegal alien you and you parents so obviously are.
15 posted on 07/22/2008 6:34:59 AM PDT by milky
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To: 3AngelaD
She says, she says....

Sounds like her parents' plan to screw the American system and American taxpayers fell through.

From The Article:

"Between 1960 to 2008, more than 75 South Texas midwives were convicted of signing birth certificates for children they did not deliver."

"When her mother was nearly nine months pregnant, she crossed the border illegally from Matamoros to Brownsville with $200 and enough clothes to last her several weeks."

16 posted on 07/22/2008 6:40:47 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: 3AngelaD
...38 years after she was born in Brownsville

That would put her birth in 1970. We had an amnesty in 1986. I wonder how she obtained a SS number, if she indeed has one. Sounds like another scam. It should be easy to verify her story using school and other records.

17 posted on 07/22/2008 6:41:37 AM PDT by kabar
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To: 3AngelaD

At the end of the article it states that she goes into Mexico several times a week because she has no health care and her brothers and sisters are there. They ask her what will happen if she does not receive her passport. She says the she’s basically stuck, stuck in a free country.

That is in no way true. No one will force her to stay in the U.S. She can leave anytime she wants. It’s getting back in again that might prove a problem. Since she and her family seem quite adept at crossing borders illegally I don’t see why this will be a problem. I also don’t she how she’s crossing the border 2 times a week now without a passport. That Draconian crackdown doesn’t seem to be so effective.


18 posted on 07/22/2008 6:42:13 AM PDT by Barb4Bush (I sure don't like it but I guess I'm going to have to vote for McCain)
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To: Barb4Bush

Correction in the 2nd paragraph:

I also don’t she = see


19 posted on 07/22/2008 6:47:46 AM PDT by Barb4Bush (I sure don't like it but I guess I'm going to have to vote for McCain)
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To: Iron Munro
Also from the article:

"Sanchez's parents had no plans to raise their daughter in the United States. After she was born, they carried her back to Matamoros, where she grew up with three brothers.

If she wanted to move to the States when she was adult, they told her, her citizenship granted her that option. But when Sanchez was 12 and ready to enter junior high school, the Matamoros public school system asked for her Mexican birth certificate. Without proof of her citizenship, administrators told her, she wouldn't be able to attend public school.

Given no alternative, she left Matamoros, and her parents, to live with cousins and attend middle school in Brownsville. She learned English. She moved around the state of Texas. But after a few years, she couldn't stand being away from her immediate family.

When she was 15, Sanchez dropped out of school and moved back to Mexico.

Sounds a little fishy to me. It is interesting to see how freely she could move back and forth across the border.

20 posted on 07/22/2008 6:49:24 AM PDT by kabar
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To: 3AngelaD

“The government suspects that as many as 15,000 midwife-granted birth certificates were issued fraudulently in South Texas. Between 1960 to 2008, more than 75 South Texas midwives were convicted of signing birth certificates for children they did not deliver....”

Just put in a call to KOS and the Obama campaign.

They’ll help ya out with the birth certificate problems.... :)

- John


21 posted on 07/22/2008 6:51:36 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: goldstategop

This is a case of misreading the 14th amendment. The phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” is the key. Neither of her parents were so there is no proof they were here so there is no proof of her birth here either.


22 posted on 07/22/2008 6:53:19 AM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: kabar
“It is interesting to see how freely she could move back and forth across the border.”

It's also interesting to note that she goes to Mexico every week for health care but she was unable to enter Matamoras middle school because she had no Mexican birth certificate. Does this mean I can go to Mexico and get free health care? I don't have a Mexican birth certificate, either. What a deal!

23 posted on 07/22/2008 6:56:15 AM PDT by Barb4Bush (I sure don't like it but I guess I'm going to have to vote for McCain)
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To: 3AngelaD

“Sanchez received a shocking letter from the U.S. State Department”

So, when does she receive a “shocking” letter from ICE?
(crickets)


24 posted on 07/22/2008 6:59:19 AM PDT by tumblindice (adios y don't come back)
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To: Barb4Bush

Since her parents are Mexican, she is a Mexican citizen. Heretofore, you did not need a US passport to cross into Mexico. That has changed.


25 posted on 07/22/2008 7:00:28 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
Why would her parents being Mexican be enough for free healthcare but not enough for her to go to a Mexican school?
26 posted on 07/22/2008 7:11:09 AM PDT by Barb4Bush (I sure don't like it but I guess I'm going to have to vote for McCain)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Sorry, Nana. I was so busy rolling my eyes that I forgot the barf alert.


27 posted on 07/22/2008 7:21:05 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: kabar
One of the things that is interesting to me about this is that the Mexican schools demand proof of citizenship, but we can't! I want to puke. South Texas school districts are spending a fortune educating the children of foreigners. This is an example of human brood parasitism.

Why Mexican illegals are driving America "cuckoo":

Why doesn't Mexico take care of its own people? Why do they instead encourage their poor to leave Mexico and invade the United States? Nature provides a parallel that is instructive.

Some species of birds thrive not by carefully rearing their own young, but by pawning that task off on adults of other species. The European Cuckoo, whose distinctive call is immortalized in the sound of the "cuckoo clock," is the bird in which this habit has been most thoroughly studied. Female European Cuckoos lay their eggs only in the nests of other species of birds. A cuckoo egg usually closely mimics the eggs of the host (one of whose eggs is often removed by the cuckoo).

The host may recognize the intruding egg and abandon the nest, or it may incubate and hatch the cuckoo egg. Shortly after hatching, the young European Cuckoo, using a scoop-like depression on its back, instinctively shoves over the edge of the nest any solid object that it contacts. With the disappearance of their eggs and rightful young, the foster parents are free to devote all of their care to the young cuckoo. Frequently this is an awesome task, since the cuckoo chick often grows much larger than the host adults long before it can care for itself. One of the tragicomic scenes in nature is a pair of small foster parents working like Sisyphus to keep up with the voracious appetite of an outsized young cuckoo.

28 posted on 07/22/2008 7:40:00 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: goldstategop

Ditto! This is not only a Mexican problem. Koreans, Japanese and others go to Guam, Midway, Hawaii and other US terrorites to give birth. It’s ticket for the entire family.


29 posted on 07/22/2008 7:59:35 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (We're screwed '08)
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To: kabar

But when Sanchez was 12 and ready to enter junior high school, the Matamoros public school system asked for her Mexican birth certificate. Without proof of her citizenship, administrators told her, she wouldn’t be able to attend public school.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

1. How did she go to school in Mexico before age 12 without the proper documents ???

2. If it’s Mexico where Mexicans are, why doesnt the US have the same proof of citizenship laws to go to school here ????


30 posted on 07/22/2008 8:16:37 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Jabba the Nutt

I love your tagline. It’s short and really accurate.


31 posted on 07/22/2008 8:26:48 AM PDT by Barb4Bush (I sure don't like it but I guess I'm going to have to vote for McCain)
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To: 3AngelaD
She became a citizen upon birth because of a provision in the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. The amendment grants American-born babies with citizenship, even if their parents are undocumented.

~~~snip~~~

Lupita Sanchez's parents had no plans to raise their daughter in the United States. After she was born, they carried her back to Matamoros, where she grew up with three brothers.

If she wanted to move to the States when she was adult, they told her, her citizenship granted her that option.

The 14th Amendment reads in part...

Section. 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Since she and her parents were NOT "subject to the jurisdiction" of the USA, her birth may as well have occurred on Mars as far as citizenship goes. Her birth 'here' is the same as if her parents were Brits or Germans on a three week vacation in New York. It means n-o-t-h-i-n-g.

So the 'journalist' is wrong and her parents were wrong. She AIN'T no citizen of the USA. The idiot put right in the article yet didn't see it. Lupita is a MEXICAN National (aka: citizen) - period.

32 posted on 07/22/2008 8:30:27 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: Barb4Bush

I stole from someone for the same reason’s you gave. Plus, it has the added advantage of being true.


33 posted on 07/22/2008 8:54:57 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (We're screwed '08)
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To: Barb4Bush

Because she is lying.


34 posted on 07/22/2008 9:02:12 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Tennessee Nana
1. She is lying.

2. Because our government and courts refuse to enforce the laws of the land and would rather imbue non-citizens with the rights of citizens and then some.

35 posted on 07/22/2008 9:05:01 AM PDT by kabar
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To: 3AngelaD

“Lemme see, Miss Sanchez: was your mother a U.S. citizen?
No?
And your father - if you know who he is - was he a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth?
No?

So we just have the “word” of another possibly illegal alien that you were born in the U.S.? Is that right?

Sorry, babe, back to May-hee-co with you!”


36 posted on 07/22/2008 10:16:48 AM PDT by Redbob ("WWJBD" ="What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: goldstategop
"Anchor baby status should be abolished. Citizenship should granted only to children born of TWO U.S citizens.

There - fixed.

37 posted on 07/22/2008 10:19:16 AM PDT by Redbob ("WWJBD" ="What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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