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CARROLL: Gore's Nutty Idea
Rocky Mountain News ^ | July 22, 2008 | Vincent Carroll

Posted on 07/22/2008 5:58:27 AM PDT by kellynla

He's a former vice president of the United States, Nobel Prize winner and best-selling author, so the lavish news coverage of Al Gore's latest brainstorm was inevitable. Less understandable is why an idea so irresponsible - in economic terms, in fact, just this side of deranged - attracted so little ridicule.

Gore proposed last week that the United States "commit to producing 100 percent of our electricity from renewable energy and truly clean carbon-free sources within 10 years."

Not just all new electricity, mind you, which would be challenging enough. But all existing electricity, too.

This would of course require utilities to mothball hundreds of existing power plants as they launched a crash construction program of solar plants, wind farms and transmission lines costing hundreds of billions and perhaps trillions of dollars. (To put this in perspective, T. Boone Pickens, another fellow who's caught the wind-power bug, claims on his Web site, "Building wind facilities in the corridor that stretches from the Texas panhandle to North Dakota could produce 20 percent of the electricity for the United States at a cost of $1 trillion. It would take another $200 billion to build the capacity to transmit that energy to cities and towns.")

Gore would subject 300 million people to an experiment in which baseload power that is needed 24 hours a day to keep the economy - and our livelihoods - humming is replaced willy nilly by power sources still susceptible to natural disruption (such as lack of wind or lingering cloud cover), that cost more (at least in the case of solar) and are far less plentiful in some regions than others (Colorado is lucky at least in that regard).

(Excerpt) Read more at rockymountainnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: algore; climatechange; energy; globalwarming; gore
Just be thankful to God that this clown wasn't elected POTUS. Every time he opens his mouth he validates my tagline, "Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots." LOL
1 posted on 07/22/2008 5:58:28 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla
Its insane! The notion of redoing our entire energy infrastructure in a decade is ridiculous. Algore should be laughed at, not given deference as an environmental prophet.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 07/22/2008 6:02:52 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: kellynla

algore sure is living high on the hog off his taxpayer pensions... I don’t understand? vested interests???


3 posted on 07/22/2008 6:02:57 AM PDT by kcm.org (Conservatives bashing Sen. McCain has Ronald Reagan spinning in his grave!!!)
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To: kellynla
Gore is a sappy-headed hoax.

(I salute him for stopping his people from instigating race riots during the election-2000 "debate" -- but enough is enough!)

4 posted on 07/22/2008 6:03:16 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: kellynla

I find it amazing that given the problems with existing infrastructure that Gore casually tosses this idea out. I know the guy’s stupid. But the idea is so outrageous, he’s way beyond stupid.

Becoming a celebrity must either kill massive amounts of brain cells or have some psychological effect that incapacitates common sense.


5 posted on 07/22/2008 6:08:23 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: kellynla
The very idea that we should discard centuries of energy science and switch over to some imaginary energy source that only exists in Algore's mind is so preposterous that you can only shake your head in disbelief.
6 posted on 07/22/2008 6:09:29 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Public policy should never become the captive of a scientific-technological elite. -- Ike Eisenhower)
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To: goldstategop
“Algore should be laughed at?”

He is...by everyone who has ANY knowledge of energy & economics. Of course, Al Bore and the rest of the Socialists want us all riding government mass transit like good little comrades and the oil companies owned by the government.

"Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink."
P.J.O'Rourke

7 posted on 07/22/2008 6:14:35 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; CygnusXI; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

8 posted on 07/22/2008 6:15:00 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: meatloaf
I know the guy’s stupid. But the idea is so outrageous, he’s way beyond stupid.

And he believes the public is stupid enough to believe him.

9 posted on 07/22/2008 6:17:01 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Nobody but the Socialists are listening to this clown...


10 posted on 07/22/2008 6:18:36 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
Al Gore’s Personal Electricity Consumption Up 10% Despite “Energy-Efficient” Renovations

"NASHVILLE – In the year since Al Gore took steps to make his home more energy-efficient, the former Vice President’s home energy use surged more than 10%, according to the Tennessee Center for Policy Research."

“A man’s commitment to his beliefs is best measured by what he does behind the closed doors of his own home,” said Drew Johnson, President of the Tennessee Center for Policy Research. “Al Gore is a hypocrite and a fraud when it comes to his commitment to the environment, judging by his home energy consumption.”

"In the past year, Gore’s home burned through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity, enough to power 232 average American households for a month."

The only way energy Independence could ever be attained is to build a nuclear power plant on Al's Estate to handle just his own enormous energy consumption.


11 posted on 07/22/2008 6:21:23 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: goldstategop
On my way to jury duty yesterday morning, I heard an interview with someone in the energy dept. of the Texas government. He said that windmill farms will be erected all over West Texas to fuel East Texas. However, every household in Texas will have a $4.00 monthly charge added to their energy bill to pay the cost of "transporting" the energy generated from the wind farms.

The callers here in West Texas were very upset that we will be charged the same $4 and not receive the benefit because the vast majority of energy will go east of us.

12 posted on 07/22/2008 6:23:08 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: Iron Munro

The only way to get the people to voluntarily surrender their freedoms to the state is to claim and perpetuate crisis.

That’s the ONLY reason this climate hysteria continues.


13 posted on 07/22/2008 6:26:47 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: kellynla

Did Al’s son ever get sentenced?


14 posted on 07/22/2008 6:44:51 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (DRILL OR GET OFF THE HILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: goldstategop

Everybody yammers on about these wind farms....yet wherever they are proposed, the locals object to them quite vociferously. So how are you going to get the locals to sign on to your plan Al & T. Boone ? Eminent Domain?

Also, I have read where there needs to be auxiliary power available, to the total value of wind farms and solar, in the event that something goes off line or has a problem like no wind or clouds or even night time. Where exactly is that going to come from?

These people are just plain stupid. We should be building breeder reactors like the French have. The waste stream is reprocessed and re-used. We have enough boiling light water reactors to provide the seed fuel for these breeders. We could build hundreds of these things and make electricity too cheap to meter.


15 posted on 07/22/2008 6:45:58 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (I will not vote for Obama not because he is black, but because he is RED)
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To: sweetiepiezer

“Did Al’s son ever get sentenced?”

Don’t know & don’t care. LOL


16 posted on 07/22/2008 6:53:53 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kcm.org

When Clinton sold the Elk Hills Reserves in California, they were bought by Armand Hammer’s oil company.
When Armand Hammer died, Gore bought a very large interest in the oil company.
Gore is a total idiot, and I can only think of Atlas Shrugged whenever he opens his pie-hole and starts blithering about any topic.
Somewhere in his retinue, there has to be someone who can advise him that a fickle source of energy is worse than anything we have now.
Do I think we should develop wind and geo-thermal, etc? Yes.
But- telling the idiot trust fund babies who are behind most of the enviro movement in this country that this latest spew of words from Gore’s mouth is valid is worse than The Emperor’s New Clothes...
Thank God that Gore wasn’t elected, despite his overt dismissing of military ballots.
We sorely need those military ballots this year in November. The military knows what’s going on in Iraq and Afghanistan. Martha Raddatz and her ilk do not. Unfortunately, too many voters make up their mind after listening to Martha Raddatz of ABC.


17 posted on 07/22/2008 6:57:48 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Ouderkirk

I live where there is a fair amount of wind in N Nevada, but it is NOT constant.
If someone wanted to put up a windmill on my property, I would be happy for the lease $$$.


18 posted on 07/22/2008 7:00:39 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: thackney

El Rushbo asks the question: without fossil fuels, how will airplanes fly?


19 posted on 07/22/2008 7:14:26 AM PDT by elcid1970 (My cartridges are dipped in pig grease.)
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To: kellynla

The only problem is that so many Dems also oppose these ‘renewable’ sources of energy when they are proposed for development in their back yards.

No wind power for Maddachusetts if it will spoil Teddy’s cruises and subsequent diesel dumps.

No nuclear power ever, especially in California.


20 posted on 07/22/2008 7:15:39 AM PDT by wildbill ( FR---changing history by erasing it from memory.)
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To: wildbill

“No nuclear power ever, especially in California.”

You’re a little behind the times.

POLL: After 30 Years, Californians Support Nuclear Power
http://www.redcounty.com/orange-county/2008/07/poll-after-30-years-california-1/


21 posted on 07/22/2008 7:30:23 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Methane gas has increased 150% in the atmosphere since the mid 1700’s. (During the same time period, Carbon dioxide increased only 30 %.) A gram of methane gas has more than 25 times the greenhouse gas impact as a gram carbon dioxide. As many know, flatulence, “farts,” are almost entirely methane gas.

Therefore, Al Gore has developed a new program to combat this obviously increasing peril to our planet, and make a little money for himself at the same time.

Everyone will be required to wear a “fart meter,” (Cost $75, available only from Al Gore) which will record and automatically transmit to a new government agency (the Federal Automatic Recording Technology Department) the occasion of each fart and the volume thereof.

For an additional fee of $4,500, interested parties can purchase a fart capture mechanism (available only from Al Gore). This 25 pound device can be conveniently worn under the special clothing available also from Al Gore in attractive shades of brown.

When full, the interested consumer can present his fart capture device to Al Gore’s recycling center, where for a fee of $0.10 per fart, the captured farts will be recycled into the US natural gas distribution system. Al Gore also will receive a modest fee of only $0.015 per fart for the energy content of the gas.

The interested consumer will also receive “fart credits” for the number of farts he recycles. These “fart credits” can be traded to other consumers, who elected not to purchase a fart capture mechanism, through Al Gore’s Fart Trading Exchange. Al Gore will extract only a small commission of $0.01 per fart for each trade.

All Consumers will be required to be “fart neutral” by a “Cap and Trade” regulation, administered by the new Federal Automatic Recording Technology Department. Legislation is being developed as we speak, by the concerned Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, and her erstwhile compatriot in the Senate, Harry Reid.

Get ahead of the mandated stampede to control this growing threat to our planet. Get you fart capture mechanism now.

Simply contact Al Gore and follow his instructions.


22 posted on 07/22/2008 7:48:17 AM PDT by LOC1
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To: kellynla

I said DEMS, meaning hard core pols and their supporters, not the general public.

The public is starting to ‘get it’ that we need to develop all the forms of energy generation that have hitherto been off limits because we could afford to ignore them.


23 posted on 07/22/2008 8:03:36 AM PDT by wildbill ( FR---changing history by erasing it from memory.)
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To: kcm.org

“I don’t understand? vested interests???”

Well, wind and sun energy require backup systems to tide over the down times, plus the ability to switch over in ten years is patently ridiculous. Rides Gore to the rescue: “no problem, do as I do. Purchase carbon credits for your non-compliance with the rules and sleep with a clear conscience.” And Gore happens to have a trenchcoat full of carbon credits for sale.


24 posted on 07/22/2008 8:10:02 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: wildbill
“I said DEMS, meaning hard core pols and their supporters, not the general public.”

excuse me, “professor”...you said “no nuclear power ever , especially in CA”...I may not have a Masters but I can still read English. LOL

and even smart guys like you should know to never say “no nuclear power ever, especially in CA” when we ALREADY have “nuclear power in CA”...

good day

25 posted on 07/22/2008 8:13:52 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: elcid1970

Nuclear?


26 posted on 07/22/2008 8:20:09 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: wildbill

“No nuclear power ever, especially in California.”

“California also has four commercial nuclear power plants”
http://www.energy.ca.gov/nuclear/california.html

See, you can learn something every day...professor...


27 posted on 07/22/2008 8:24:47 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

If we could harness the energy from all that hot air emanating from AlGore, our energy ‘crisis’ would be solved.


28 posted on 07/22/2008 9:05:22 AM PDT by iceskater
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To: sweetiepiezer
Did Al’s son ever get sentenced?

Yes, he got a life sentence of having a moron for a father.

29 posted on 07/22/2008 9:17:18 AM PDT by Wil H
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To: kellynla
Nobel Prize winner and best-selling author

That award severely tainted the prize for past and future awards.

The 2007 Peace prize was divided equally between: Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)

and

Albert Arnold (Al) Gore Jr., USA, 1948-

For their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change.

Their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge apparently include Al Gore’s admission that it is okay to lie about global warming

Al Gore quote :

"In the United States of America, unfortunately we still live in a bubble of unreality. And the Category 5 denial is an enormous obstacle to any discussion of solutions. Nobody is interested in solutions if they don't think there's a problem. Given that starting point, I believe it is appropriate to have an over-representation of factual presentations on how dangerous (global warming) is, as a predicate for opening up the audience to listen to what the solutions are, and how hopeful it is that we are going to solve this crisis."

The quote was taken from this long and boring interview

30 posted on 07/22/2008 9:52:50 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: Wil H

This is true, lol.


31 posted on 07/22/2008 9:52:55 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (DRILL OR GET OFF THE HILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: kellynla
Thanks for the reference to a site on California nuclear power. I stand corrected as to the current situation. Now let me repeat what I said, not what you chose to interpret: "The only problem is that so many Dems also oppose these ‘renewable’ sources of energy when they are proposed for development in their back yards." Isn't the California legislature controlled by Dems and isn't their posture, "no more nukes" or have they made any move to repeal the law they passed which banned the development of new nuclear facilities? From the website you recommended the following information is available: Four previously operating nuclear plants have been decommissioned and shut down at the direction of the legislature which has been controlled by Dems. And the four current sites will probably be decommissioned at the end of their fuel rod life if the Claifornia Dems keep power in their legislature and continue to oppose nuclear energy facilities. Per your recommended site: " In June 1976, California enacted legislation directing the California Energy Commission to perform an independent investigation of the nuclear fuel cycle. This investigation was to assess whether the technology to reprocess nuclear fuel rods or to dispose of permanently high-level nuclear waste had been demonstrated, approved and was operational. (See Public Resources Code 25524.1 (a) (1), 25524.1 (b), and 25524.2 (a) for a precise description of the specific findings and conclusions). After extensive public hearings, the Energy Commission determined that it could not make the requisite affirmative findings concerning either reprocessing of nuclear fuel or disposal of high-level waste. This information was published in a report: Status of Nuclear Fuel Reprocessing, Spent Fuel Storage and High-level Waste Disposal, Energy Commission publication P102-78-001, January 1978.) As a result, the development of new nuclear energy facilities in California was prohibited by law."
32 posted on 07/22/2008 9:53:01 AM PDT by wildbill ( FR---changing history by erasing it from memory.)
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To: wildbill
"As a result, the development of new nuclear energy facilities in California was prohibited by law."

And that's exactly what we are trying to change.

cyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...
33 posted on 07/22/2008 9:58:45 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

INTREP


34 posted on 07/22/2008 10:05:21 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: ridesthemiles
Whew! Come down from that soapbox, makin me dizzy LOL!

algore may be an idiot but he's laughing all the way to the banks he own.

As far as the babe on ABC or whatever, who in the [bleep] is watching this stuff. While encouraging in a way, scary in another, sheeple aren't buying the media hype as they used to.

35 posted on 07/22/2008 10:25:08 AM PDT by kcm.org (Conservatives bashing Sen. McCain has Ronald Reagan spinning in his grave!!!)
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To: kellynla

Interestingly enough Mr. Carroll likens Gore’s idiotic plans to Mao’s Great Leap Forward plans of China’s failed communist past. We can call Gore’s stupidity The Great Leap Backwards.


36 posted on 07/22/2008 12:08:57 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: kellynla

bttt


37 posted on 07/22/2008 12:34:23 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: kellynla

“Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink.”
P.J.O’Rourke

Love that quote. PJ is the best kinda liberal. An ex-liberal.


38 posted on 07/22/2008 12:37:00 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: kellynla

“This would of course require utilities to mothball hundreds of existing power plants as they launched a crash construction program of solar plants, wind farms and transmission lines costing hundreds of billions and perhaps trillions of dollars.”

It would be a project of Stalinistic proportions with similar costs and results.


39 posted on 07/22/2008 12:54:55 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: LOC1

That was so good I copied it and sent it to friends.


40 posted on 07/22/2008 1:06:24 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: kellynla
“No nuclear power ever, especially in California.”

You’re a little behind the times. POLL: After 30 Years, Californians Support Nuclear Power

Don't kid yourself. It doesn't matter how many Californians want something, as long as the Lefties can get one judge to stop them. There won't be any new nukes in California until the last Joan Baez groupie dies in the cold dark, and is eaten by spotted owls.

41 posted on 07/22/2008 1:16:38 PM PDT by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: kellynla
Fine editorial, but I skimmed through the comments (more like flames) at the end of the article, I found a level of technical and economic ignorance firmly wrapped in arrogance that is frightening.

These people really don't have a clue what it takes to make and deliver electricity. They don't even begin to understand the scale of the infrastructure investment required to replace 80% of the generating capacity of this nation.

42 posted on 07/22/2008 1:20:29 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: elcid1970
El Rushbo asks the question: without fossil fuels, how will airplanes fly?


43 posted on 07/22/2008 1:25:53 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: kellynla
POLL: After 30 Years, Californians Support Nuclear Power

And they also oppose Gay Marriage.

The Leftist thugs running that state don't give a damn what the people think.

44 posted on 07/22/2008 1:28:12 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Luke21

Glad you enjoyed the satire. Send it to whomever you want.


45 posted on 07/22/2008 1:53:53 PM PDT by LOC1
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